ACE

>i am not taking shots at ian. i expect him to do more than >what he has done thus far against far far lesser talent and >size. > >while ian is indeed far more talented than frericks, i wish >he had half the attitude of tom frericks. > >if this team is going to go to the promised land, ian has to >come out and dominate against the talent we have seen thus >far. even the a&m inside players should not be getting the >better of ian. and until he steps up to that next level, >that imo is a major concern. sure we need a power forward >and a third guard to contribute, but imo, thus far only >liddell and lisch are playing at a level that approaches >what they are capable of. I guess if Ian would recklessly throw his body around and rack up concussions he would be giving effort in your eyes. Ian has worked hard at his game. While he is blessed with good hands and a decent shooting touch, he is not a great natural athlete. He's not particularly quick and doesn't have good hops. He has worked hard on his game. Just because he doesn't run around wildly, diving around like Frericks did, doesn't mean Ian isn't giving effort.

We could've used him last year and he would've been a better use of scholarship as a senior this year than Wendell Bennett. Another player who could hit an outside shot wouldn't have hurt us.

It's amazing Roy will take shots at Ian while he used to tout how great Tom Frerichs was. By the end of Ian's sophomore season, he was already equal or better than TF.

Luke had a worse shooting percentage than DP last year. He has not provided the "mid range" game that he was touted at being good at. DP, Tommie, Kevin and Ian are excellent passers, so there will be a lot of opportunities for somebody to hit open shots. Brad recognized that need which is why Stemler was a top recruiting priority.

>those who have that game chalked up as a probable win may >want to put that in the "toss-up" category. > >He who shouldn't be mentioned had 25 points... Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Roy will never admit that Ahearn and Stemler both would've helped this program. I know we would've scored more than 33 points against A&M if they were on the roster. (I'm sure the response will be that with those two on the floor, we would have given up 130 points to A&M). Missouri State beats a top 15 team, we lose by more than 30.

How come no info about Powell offers?

>It blows away anything that Bruno and her gang could come up >with. > >http://www.mvc-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml...=&ATCLID=654378 Imagine that. They get all their conference tournament games shown in St. Louis.

Even Billiken Frank was ripping the A-10 television deal yesterday on the radio and he has first-hand knowledge of the tv negotiations.

I tried to keep an open mind about the move to the A-10, but I really like it less all the time.

>the reason it is important ace is that on those nights that >nothing is falling or the fastbreak gets stopped, we have to >return that favor or else it becomes a 30 point blowout. > >to become the likes of a&m we have to always bring the >defense. then the offense becomes an afterthought. we >basically backed ourselves in a corner last night. the >defense has to always be there. I'm not sure why we can't try to bring it on both ends. Hit the offensive boards better, work harder for open shots, take care of the basketball, move without the ball, etc. Those all require effort too.

I'm more concerned that we are still capable of laying a 30-something point turd than I am about defensive intensity. We would have needed to hold them to around 29 points in order to win that game. I was hoping that the St. Joe's debacles from last year were a thing of the past.

>-something about an apple and a tree here...but at least >pops usually waits for the perceived slight before bashing, >the next generation taking a more proactive approach >-and we were crap tonight, how do you hide that?? Haha! It does seem a little odd to just start attacking the PD after we got our a$$ handed to us. Seems like misplaced anger to me. It's just one game. It could be worse. It could be Mizzou football. Talk about a debacle. It's amusing listening to all the Mizlosers whine about the Pinkel extension.

Roy, I believe your memory is a little hazy. I thought we played Duncan and co. pretty tough in the NCAA Tourney. I believe we lost by less than 10. Also, I know Clag and Co. beat Cincy at the Arena. Dobbs gave UC the body love. I think we beat them again the first year at Kiel. We also lost to them on a last second shot in the finals of the C-USA Tournament. In other words, in the two years of Clag/Waldman we more than held our own against Cincy.

Roy, are you reconsidering your claim that this team is better than the Claggett/Waldman teams? We always hear so much from Brad about defensive effort, which there's nothing wrong with, but it seems like sometimes when we go against tough teams, we don't exert enough effort on the offensive end - moving without the ball, working for good shots, etc. Or maybe we simply still don't have enough offensive firepower.

That's not all that surprising. I lived out there for a little while. USC is not a basketball school. And even as great of a tradition as UCLA has in hoops, the fans tend to be very apathetic. It's not a great college basketball town. They're more into the Lakers.

Hate, hate, hate, that's all you do. I'm going to run to the principal. Teacher, lock this thread! It does sound simple, but that doesn't mean our staff has always taken that approach. Remember the Shaw/Grimes situation.

I need to be more calm and level headed like Rich. A puppy dog? Quit spreading your hate.

I don't think we need to do something radical like pull the offer, but I also don't think we should make the mistakes of putting all of our eggs in the Powell basket. We should continue to aggressively pursue other options. If we can get a player comparable or better than Powell to commit, then forget about Powell.

Roy, you make some good points, but keep in mind that any coach that comes into SLU in the future will be in a much better recruiting position than previous coaches due to the on-campus arena. We will be an easier program to sell. Xavier has gone through several coaches, but has maintained a pretty high level of consistency.

So even if you buy this ranking, both coaches are pretty comparable. We wouldn't have been better off with Gregory.

Hate, hate, hate, moytoy, that's all you ever do. You are ENORMOUSLY INTOLERANT. You are way out of line. I'm going to run to the principal now and try to have your post deleted.

>but Slufanskip expressed my thoughts perfects. Ace is the >king of intolerance on this board. I am the king of intolerance when it comes to Mizlosers invading the SLU board, right AJ. LOL!

> actually, I think only one poster said that. It was Alumni >fan, and I think it was just a figure of speach. Were you >trying to group him in with someone else? If so who? > > > Official Billikens.com sponsor of H >Waldman > >Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would >have helped club. Nope. Refer to SheltieDave's post. The Fire Soderberg straw man.

>Good post. I think most of the board is in this group when >they dig deep down. It's just we hear a whole heck of a lot >more about the second part of your post than the first. We hear a lot about the second part, due to the fact that we went through a spring recruiting period and a fall recruiting period with no games in between to talk about. No that the games are here, hopefully we'll be talking about a lot of Billiken wins. That's how the mood becomes positive.

Follow the thread. A couple of poster referenced people "calling for Brad's head" or wanting him fired. Who in the hell on this board has been actively campaigning to have Brad fired? That's the paranoia you should be talking about. As for your cries about dropping politics, I wonder if you would have been saying that in 2004?