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59 minutes ago, Box and Won said:
Some schools have figured out a way to game the rankings in recent years. Northeastern is probably the biggest offender.
I know the criteria has changed a number of times over the past decade, but at one time, alumni donations and denial rate were critical components so any institution with the means could do a lot to get a few dollars from a large pool of alumni or applications from students who had no chance of being admitted. Other schools report false or falsified data.
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38 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said:
Per his commitment video, Luke's mother is from Washington, MO and his grandmother is still here in St. Louis. There's quite a few native St. Louisans that have moved to Texas over the years. Hopefully this is the beginning of the Texas to St. Louis pipeline that SLU coaches have been attempting to build here for decades now.
Both his parents were student athletes at Washington University. Volleyball and basketball. Has brothers who play at Army and Penn. I figured he would take that Harvard offer.
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Maybe, but there are almost no players on the roster who played in 2022.
Brogan Townsend and maybe someone else.
It makes it even harder to imagine that an assistant coach is the difference.
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I know the the basketball night was mentioned elsewhere, but I did not see details. The event will be held as part of Homecoming and Family Weekend festivities...
Billikens Basketball Night
6:30-8:30 p.m.
Chaifetz Arena
Billikens Basketball Night will feature the SLU men’s and women’s basketball teams with post-event autographs and photo opportunities.
The event is complimentary to attend and does not require a ticket.
Concessions will be available for purchase.
Recommended parking: Olive Compton Garage
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Thanks for looking it up.
That is incredible to be honest.
I like that game and appreciate that they continue to schedule SLU.
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13 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:
Missouri State has never beaten SLU.
No way that is true, is it?
My first ever SLU game happened to be Missouri State in the tournament way back when they played at Soccer Park. I was so unprepared for the record cold weather, but the game was incredible.
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8 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:
Soccer would dominate the MVC. The sport has always been dominated by private schools due to sports demographic.
The latest United Soccer rankings rank SLU below MVC affiliate Western Michigan.
Bowling Green defeated Michigan State (and I believe they defeated Indiana. A scrimmage, but still).
Missouri State is always in the Top 50 program and often a Top 25 level program.
Lots of public schools do well in Men's Soccer.
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6 hours ago, billiken_roy said:
MVC has a lot of public schools. public schools have kind of an unlimited checking account. the non revenue sports are more at a disadvantage vs public schools than the revenue sports and the private schools tend to open up the safe for those revenue sports more.
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1 hour ago, Bills By 40 said:
I wish they'd flex Sunday's game to, say, 11, to allow me to make it to both the women's and City games. That'd be a fun day.
Just realized that Penn State comes in ranked No. 3/5.
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7 minutes ago, Speyburn said:
No, Mizzou have them, but they do not have enough camera angles or the height to get a good replay if offsides is under review. They also have cameras in the goal, to see if all of the ball crossed the line. This also came into play at the Billiken game, and it was determined that a chance from Mizzou that the ball did not cross the line. Having VAR is a conference decision.
I believe it is a conference decision to mandate video review, but that any school can set-up a laptop and monitor on the sidelines and have someone ready to replay the live stream.
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Lindenwood was late to the game of growing enrollment through sports and nearly closed, but the President that ran Tarkio in to the ground did take the approach to new levels.
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2 hours ago, Billiken Rich said:
Looked like we were man-handled out there last night.
One man's man-handled is another man's they were playing their style.
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2 hours ago, billikenfan05 said:
Don't feed the trolls.
I needed that.
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1 hour ago, DOC said:
I don't know if adding men's volleyball does anything for SLU, but places like Mckendree would be closed if it weren't for sports.
This is true, but then, what would SLU be without sports?
I have no idea to be honest, but I imagine it looks very different.
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16 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:
Lindenwood added Men's Volleyball in 2003. I couldn't find anything in the archives on how it increased school enrollment. They do have 24 on their current roster, so yes, I guess you can say their enrollment increased by 24.
But they did not cut the 5-scholarship maximum men's volleyball program, did they?
Lindenwood is an outlier as they now have a Division I football albatross to fund, but I did offer two other examples that illustrate the point that you can run a cost-neutral men's volleyball program.
As for enrollment, many college and universities have added athletic programs, outdoor programs, recreation centers to increase the gender parity, a strategy that has been known attract more male students--both athletes and non-athletes. That strategy is probably more useful at a McKendree than it is a SLU, but still...
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Maybe I should edit that to say SLU should investigate the possibility of adding lacrosse and men's volleyball. Determine whether one or both can be added in a fiscally responsible manner. The latter certainly can.
Men's volleyball allows for a maximum of 5 full-time scholarships per program and with a roster of 20-25, the tuition revenue would go a long way.
Lindenwood, McKendree, and Quincy added men's volleyball specifically to increase enrollment.
Each are members of the 9-team MIVA conference with 7 of 9 programs being a 5-hour or less road trip away. The conference also includes more intriguing opponents such as Loyola and Ohio State. And the game is so much fun to watch.
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SLU should keep field hockey and add lacrosse.
Mens Volleyball would be even better.
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On 8/15/2024 at 10:32 AM, Lord Elrond said:
The Ivy League probably should take a long look at what the University Athletic Association did and join them in Div 3. The UAA is the D3 conference that Wash U is in, all academic powerhouses, they figured out awhile ago that the way to go was to de-emphasize athletics. If the NCAA disintegrates, the Ivy League should get together with the UAA to form a group of colleges that is all about academics first and foremost. Right now, with being in D1, they are being thrown together with places that care more about athletics than academics, which is what is causing them problems. Joining with other colleges who care about academics first seems like a good fit.
Nearly every Ivy League school finished substantially higher than SLU in the Learfield Director's Cup.
It took skiing, rowing and so on to do it, but if you are the Ivy League, a substantial percentage of your competitors are already like-minded, academics first and foremost institutions.
https://nacda.com/documents/2024/6/10/23.24DI_SpringConferenceStandings_6.11.24.pdf
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1 hour ago, SLUBALLS said:
I know others will have a more thorough analysis but here are some observations. If anything is wrong, I apologize to the soccer gods in advance.
Thanks in advance for all the observations / analysis you and others will provide this season. Your posts are appreciated. Bring on the Hooooosiers!
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2 hours ago, SluSignGuy said:
@Wendelprof gets at one of the main reasons that the sticker price of school is so high. There are some students who do not need financial aid and will pay the full price, so the higher sticker price then brings in more revenue from those students. This is why they do not just "cut" the sticker price. They can give the vast majority of students a lower price through financial aid.
This has direct and indirect effects on consumption/students attending. The direct effect is the student is paying less. The indirect effect is that a student thinks the university is giving them more. For example, Widget A's Sticker Price is $10000, and Widget B's Sticker Price is $5000. However, if I give a $5000 coupon for Widget A, the customer thinks they are getting a better value since they are getting a $10,000 Widget for the same price as the $5,000 Widget. Even though the real price is the same.
To the best of my knowledge, SLU does not have a "minimum scholarship." The industry term is "discount rate." I do not know if I am allowed to share what this is, but the average amount that an SLU student pays is considerably, considerably, CONSIDERABLY, lower than the sticker price.
There are many, many, reasons for the rises in tuition. The Simon Rec centers of the world are part of it, but probably overall a smaller part.
-Nevermind, just assume the professor knows more.
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6 hours ago, SLU_Lax said:
International students being the biggest group that pay the sticker price.
No one pays the sticker price anymore except for those in the Top 25-50.
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11 hours ago, thetorch said:
I'm not smart so this is most likely a very dumb question. If SLU's tuition is let's say 70k. Yet they offer aid to almost every person at 25-35k. Why don't they just skip all the aid and lower all the costs?
Higher education is a Veblen good.
Cost signals quality.
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2 hours ago, Deutschkind said:
OG, inflation is only a small part of college tuition increases. Tuition has far outstretched general inflation. Your $8,000 of debt for a private med school in 1971 became $263,000 of debt for me graduating from SLU Med in 2017. Average inflation would only put your debt at $62,000 in today's dollars.
Compare that to your car for $1,800, which is about $14,000 right now. which is very comparable to the Nissan Versa.
I know the purpose of this thread should be discussing the rec center, but student debt is currently a very frustrating personal concern given my loans are being used as a political football and my progress is currently held up in federal court
Do you believe your debt should be forgiven and if yes, why?
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52 minutes ago, slu72 said:
If the Ivy’s ever tapped into their endowments to pay players NIL $’s they could be a P5 conference. Those schools are loaded.
First, they would need to start with athletic scholarships which they have not offered in over 100 years or something.
First Day of Practice Recap by Stu Durando
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Is it really all that different than what most other coaches are doing these days?