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DY and PE would get the scholarship if they wanted to save it for next year. If they sign someone else, they won't have a scholarship available next year. Perfectly good reason to give someone a scholarship.

I think Darrin deserves it condsidering Paul got his time. That spot won't last more than 1 year regardless so in fairness to Darrin, I think he deserves it for a year.

who redshirted? this is news to me.

Anyone else notice that stltoday.com works on safari, but the sports page doesn't work?

I think we'd be going too fast after something when we could wait and get something better. 1 - We should wait if anyone else leaves, if so get the Majok cousins (Ater Majok and Majok Majok). We'd be a little heavy on the bigs, but Ater would have to sit out next year so it wouldn't be that bad. Not to mention PE and FJ are 2 more guards that will be seeing the court more if healthy. 2 - If everyone else stays, I think our best option is to return the scholarship to PE for a year and then just use the spot for the 2011 recruiting class. If we sign Jett then we wouldn't be able to offer a scholarship for 2 years (on paper). Jordair Jett may seem like a good land for SLU right now, but if we are going to be a top 30 team as some predict, we could raise some eyebrows from the Bradley Beals of the recruiting class. If SLU gets a good ranking next year, there is no reason Beal would want to go to Florida etc. over SLU. It's close to home, better education, better coaching staff, better facilities. Let's home he doesn't sign in the fall and decides to wait 'til spring. Jordair Jett is good for what's currently available- problem is everything is pretty well picked over. With 13 players on the team right now (12 +PE), we aren't desperate for a body. Let's wait til next year when the pickings will be amazing. Question for Nate: What are the chances Beal will sign in the fall and if he doesn't when is the next time a deal can be made official? Basically I'm wondering if players have to wait til the spring signing day in mid-April if they don't sign in the fall? We would need until January or so to prove ourselves as a premiere program.

JJ was definitely an underrated clutch shooter. He hit a lot of key trey's this season. Not to mention he was extremely smooth on the court and crafty with his passes and set ups for a freshman. Out of all the freshman on the team, he definitely had the most court composure. He seemed unusually calm and under control for a freshmen. I'd take JJ over Jordair Jett anyday. I hope and pray that he isn't coming to replace JJ.

Highlight of the draft: Coors Light and Miller Light Home Draft is coming!

So I didn't spend my afternoon doing research on this, but I still can't find any credible sources even mentioning this. Everything online is referring to this blog which refers to nothing besides what DROSE1 apparently "heard". If anyone finds something credible could they post it? Where did DROSE1 hear this?

I am so used to oh five being that incompetent.

Sentence # 1: Marshalltown Community College sophomore Will Clyburn signed his National Letter of Intent on Tuesday afternoon to play basketball at the University of Utah for the 2010-11 season.

http://www.timesrepublican.com/page/conten...9.html?nav=5005 Another reason to kill the rumors. Thank you.

Again you don't get my point. I think pretty much everything I have read on this blog is perfectly fine expect 2 things - people talking casually about JJ transferring when no reporter has even suggested this at all. A google new search for Jordair Jett gives 1 result - NY post article 4 days ago that is probably wrong. A regular google search for Etat Majok SLU gives ZEROOOOOO RESULTS! That is why I am saying kill the rumors keep the team. It's stupid for us to think anyone is leaving when there's almost no evidence to suggest it at all. REALLY 05? Really? So why haven't there been any publications online? The NY POST article deserved some attention for the time being but its credibility has dropped now that we haven't seen a similar article in 4 days. Not to mention the attention it deserved at the time had very little to do with JJ. Again. Keep the team. Kill the rumors. If something better comes up, we can move in a different direction.

You still are making no sense. There are certain things its find to speculate about and discuss rumors. Like conference changes when there are reporters, coaches and officials talking about the same stuff. And you can work off leads and insight from legitimate sources. But I don't like hearing about how JJ might be leaving or how we might be getting Etat Majok from UConn and there is no source backing that up yet. It's one thing to be casual about talking about stuff like who is going to improve over the off season but when fans are casual about saying this person is going to leave or that person is, it's just stupid.

TWO CONSIDERATIONS FOR BIG 10 CHANGES: 1 - First thing to take into consideration is the Big 10 is filled with damn good academic schools. This is the best conference academically after Ivy League, no doubt, and they aren't going to add a school like Cincinatti. All of the current schools are ranked by USNWR in the top 71. That's why they are after ND. If you look at the USNWR rankings - you'll see some interesting coincidences. Ohio State - 53 *Pitt - 56 *Syracuse - 58 Minnesota - 61/65 (ties) Purdue - 61/65 (ties) *Rutgers - 66 (tie) *UConn - 66 (tie) Indiana - 71 Iowa - 71 4 big east schools (denoted with *) are ranked right in the middle of 5 Big 10 schools. 2 - Think Geographic. We all know how much of a pain it is to fly a team 1,000 miles for a conference game as SLU fans. The schools I have listed above are outside the Big 10's current midwest territory. ND is right in the middle of it. Cincinatti and Louisville are right in the middle of it, but they lack the academics listed above. Looking at these 2 points, and the fact that ND is the only school to fit both characteristics of the Big 10 well, makes me think if ND goes to the Big 10, they will cap the conference off at 12 schools and let no one else in. The Big East schools with football programs will have to find a different home - maybe in a later year. If ND doesn't go to the big 10 the conference probably will take on the 4 teams listed in part 1 and have around 15 teams and split it up into 2 divisions.

This is all speculation right now. It will be interesting to see what really happens. I think the author was right in identifying the big 10's pivitol role here. If they add only ND or only 1 school, nothing big will change this year. But if they go to 16, conferences are going to blow up and everyone will be moving around. If the latter is the case, the 7 non-football schools of the Big East would be all that's left of it. That's too small for a conference. They might merge with team from the A-10, moving the conference to around 20 teams, which is too big for a conference so they might as well just come together then split in half by geographic divisions. If that were the case SLU would land in a conference with Dayton, Xavier, Richmond, Charlotte from the A-10 + DePaul, Marquette from the Big East. Then some other somewhat geographically close options would be Charlotte, Butler, and ND if they stay independent for football. Right now what's likely is just some small changes but if the Big East schools with football programs leave for a big football conference, everything will explode. Let's hope the explosion does happen because SLU needs to find a conference with teams that aren't all super far away. And the MVC is the biggest joke of an option.

If you think Rick is a magician, you're wrong. All the loopholes are sealed by the NCAA. The only way we can offer a scholarship is through someone giving theirs up - transferring, etc. I hope the NYPost story on Jett was wrong or maybe there is some crazy loophole that I am unaware of. Someone claimed there's some info on these magic tricks on Nate's website. Although I respect Nate more than any other SLU athletics reporter, I am not willing to pay for that premium forum. I just wish Nate could take TT's job so we could actually get some quality, early information from the postdispatch on a regular basis. I think Nate works for them now, but isn't the main reporter for SLU yet. We all love Nate because he's good at finding rumors and getting info on them early, but he doesn't take them too seriously which is good and shows his professionalism. I feel like by the time TT has it in the post dispatch, it's old news for die-hard bills fans.

Zach, you don't understand the dynamics of this. I think it would be perfectly fair if coaches had "the talk" and kindly suggested them to leave if they forfeited the scholarship opening, but that's not how it works. Coaches have "the talk" because they want to use their scholarship on someone else. Your wrong when you say coaches have "the talks" because they want to let them know they won't play. The reason for the talk is because they want to replace them with someone else. That's the implication you don't seem to understand here. They have a different player they want to add into it. That's why I call it slashing. Using your example: Let's say i was a freshman at ASU. The ASU team has 0 scholarship room now. If the NCAA had the rule that if I transfer, then ASU still can't fill my spot with a new scholarship player, then the ASU coach wouldn't give me "the playing time talk" and he'd keep me and play me 3 games out of the year if that's all he needed me for. But that's not the reality- when a player leaves it means a new scholarship opening. So coaches don't say you need to leave and throw their stuff on the lawn, but they do have the talks and try to reason with the players to first do what is best for the team, then do what's best for the player. A lot of times this means saying hey, I think you are a great player, but I think you'd be more successful somewhere else. Then the player heads out and the coach gets his fresh recruit he was waiting to offer a scholarship to. To me that is "slashing". It shows a lack of loyalty to players that coaches recruited themselves. I understand sometimes it is done to be competitive, but it's wrong. In the context of SLU: the reason why I said "kill the rumors, keep the team" is because I like our team. The shine and alure of a fresh recruit doesn't appeal to me as much as the idea of everyone coming back. I thought we had great team chemistry and I hope that we work with the players to keep them here to preserve that. The rumors of people leaving and new people coming bothers me and I hope they are just rumors. You've got a GF now right? So let's say some other (very attractive, appealing, etc.) girl came up to you and was like, "hey" I want to date you. You have 2 options: 1 - Do what you have to do to get this new girl. - So you go to your current gf and say hey I think your great, but I think there's someone else out there better for you. (and what you really mean is hey so yeah there's someone that is better than you and i gotta dump you now) 2 - You say to the new girl, sorry I'm sure your a great person, but I've got a great girlfriend right now and I'm very happy. Option 1 sounds like you are being nice and trying to find what's best for both people but you are really its just "slashing" - such a rough word is used because someone is being replaced when loyalty was implied and expected. When I say keep the team kill the rumors is I think its important to mention that the NY post mentioned Jett committed to SLU, but as fans we shouldn't talk about who should or may leave. We should assume the info was wrong/just a rumor until we hear official word from a more credible source about someone leaving and someone coming.

Just because its the players' choice doesn't mean anything. Coaches play a hidden role. I don't know how it works, but the Kentucky's and the Kansas's of college basketball I would imagine basically have the coaches talk to players and say, "you can stay but I don't think its best for you. You probably won't play here. I think what's best for you is to play somewhere else." And there may be truth to that, but the coach wants their scholarship spot open more than anything. I know Tom Crean did this at Marquette and Indiana and I would imagine it happens more than you think. Pretty press releases make things look good. I don't know what is being discussed on Nate's board, but let me know if there is a way to have all 13 of our scholarship players stay on scholarship and we still add more scholarship players.

Your comment makes no sense. I am the one responding to rumors saying I hope these aren't true and I hope we just keep the team the way it is. I think its reasonable to at least consider the Jordair Jett rumor reasonable considering ESPN said he visited last weekend and the NY Post said he committed to here. And if you look at the rumors there is the major implication that someone may be leaving. Jordair Jett wouldn't come to SLU unless he was on scholarship. He's not going to pay $120,000 to compete with KM and MM when he had offers elsewhere. He can't get a scholarship unless someone leaves. And when it comes to the New Big East, I think as more and more articles are released - people are beginning to say almost the exact same thing that I proposed a few months ago. I said the Big East schools would split between football and non-football. College Sports Info .com says: In time, the Big East could split into 2 conferences, whereby the non-football schools could add 2-4 members such as Xavier, Dayton, Richmond, Charlotte, St. Louis, etc. I still think my proposal is very reasonable and all press releases seem to lean in the direction of my predictions.

Charlotte announced aspirations to start football "at the highest level". They hope to be playing in 2013. http://www.charlotte49erfootball.com/ I still think that SLU having a football team by 2020 is reasonable. (I said "reasonable" not "likely"). St. Louis area has the numbers and size to support such a program. It really will come down to money. If someone puts the money out there it will happen. SLU just got around 100 million from a donation from Alberici. We were given 70% of the stock of the construction company he owned - something like the 50th most expensive private company in the US - I think it was worth around 155 million a few years back. The gift was given around 8 years ago, but the family sued over it and an agreement was made last fall and nothing was disclosed on the settlement. It would be disappointing for SLU to sit on something of that size and just put it in the endowment. We should really honor him by putting to money towards something that rejuvenates the university in some tangible way. I think just 20% of that would be enough to support a new football program. What better way to honor someone who owned a successful construction company than to construct a medium sized stadium or at least a building of some sort. We could hire his company. They'd have a vested interest in making it a good building if it carried their name. And for all the anti-SLU football people out there - just because we will never be a Mizzou or Notre Dame when it comes to football, doesn't mean it's unrealistic. Charlotte is getting a program for crying out loud. And for those who say it doesn't fit well for our university, why does WASHU have a program - even if its D3, its still a program.

I think what's really best for SLU is to stick with the 13 guys we have now + DY. One thing that often gets overlooked is the fact that showing loyalty to recruits is an important selling point for a program. If we slash half of our recruits, it looks bad.

I hope the NCAA penalizes players and teams more for transfers. It happens more than just at SLU. Any good program has to throw players around like rag dolls to stay competitive. But looking at the big picture of the situation there is no easy way to fix it. Looking at the SLU speculation, I would like to see JJ here again. He got a fair amount of playing time and fits in with the team, which is an intangible that should be considered. If he wants to leave on his own, that's fine, but RM shouldn't tell anyone they should leave.

DOUBTFUL. Sound made up to me. If WR gets drafted it's possible, but I wouldn't toss that idea around until draft time.

I've seen this on a number of websites. Are we finally getting non-scholarship players to play for SLU? I can't believe all this talk - Majok, Jett, Clyburn. And our scholarships are full. I really doubt anyone is going to leave so it should be interesting to see what happens. I'd like to see us stay with what we have right now. Our team is going to be good the way it is.

It's over now. We got Loe. Unless someone else leaves (doubtful), we can't get him.