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48 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said:
Gonzaga built its program over decades by dominating the mid-major WCC and later getting a number of WCC concessions, including (1) multi-byes to the extent the top 2 WCC teams only have to play 2 games and one of them win 2 games in the WCC Tourney to snare the WCC's automatic bid; (2) reduction in WCC conference games for Men's BKB (not Women's) from 18 to 16 games, thereby giving Zags 2 additional games to schedule big time non-conference opponents: (3) scrapping former WCC shared revenue of NCAA Units, thereby allowing Zags to keep more of the NCAA Units it earns: (4) permitting Gonzaga to blackball (fellow Jesuit) SeattleU from readmission into the WCC.
The problem for SLU is it doesn't have 10, 20, 30, 40 years to pull a Gonzaga in a mid-major or low con conference. The Marquette Method (outlined by Torch above) is the only one available for SLU.
With a $1.8B endowment, 4th highest (or at worst 5th) among Catholic Universities, with 1 of the mere 4 Catholic medical schools, while playing in the #21 TV market (Fox), SLU has a lot going for it, a lot to put in its Big East application and prospectus.
All they need to do is have people running the financial part of the program with a vision of what is possible...not sure they have that now as living in Florida this SLU Grad is not familiar who the movers and shakers money people are at SLU. My non-knowledge of them leads me to believe at least many of them don't give a hoot or have a vision for what their top revenue sport could be. Yes, in Chaifetz they have the mortar commitment, but how about the ability to hire the correct people to run the whole show and in the instance of mens basketball IMHO that person is not on board now as HC. Certainly, hope the rumor from yesterday holds true as SLU hoops need a new leader!
Noticed you mentioned Decades when referencing Gonzaga. Well Mark Few has been their for 24 years and has Never missed a NCAA Tourney. I know they had HC's before him as I was their in Seattle for the one right before Mark who left after them for a Big Ten job. IMHO while Mark's accomplishments were a build on to HC's before him, he has far exceeded his predecessors. His resume is building him for the Hall of Fame once he's finished coaching the Zags. Since he's been close I personally hope he does not leave their without a National Championship team. They are a fun team to watch! That game last night was another great game.
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3 hours ago, willie said:
Barry Orms.
Willie...Thanks for correcting me on Barry's last name. I picked 3 players from the 60's. I actually worked at the old Kiel Auditorium back in the 60's and got to see SLU before I went their fort my Under Grad Degree. Followed the Billikens and saw them play at Kiel in the late 50's. Saw the original Leuchtefeld (SP?) Glad to know there is someone else who goes back to the old days too!
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1 hour ago, Bay Area Billiken said:
The whining label is a Power 5 apologist's characterization. Rather, mine states the new reality, as designed/schemed by the Power 5 Overlords, of which a certain other school on the Tennessee River is a member, with more below that destroys the opposing narrative.
The bottom line, whether or not you care to volunteer to accept it, is SLU, as is, had an NCAA Tourney at large bid qualifying RPI (the metric previously used by the NCAA) of 53 on Selection Sunday, which would have made SLU the 2nd to last team in the NCAA (and thereby likely would have been snubbed anyway after the Committee needed to service more Power 5 also rans). In contrast, under the new Power 5 rigged NET, SLU's NET on Selection Sunday was 99, well out of even the NIT, this despite winning 21 games, 20 vs. D-1 competition.
There is virtually no margin for error for SLU as long as it "remains a proud member of the Atlantic 10 Conference." The Power 5 made its hit on the mid-majors (a pejorative term in the SLU context, but used here for nomenclature) to extract no less than 6 NCAA Tourney at large bids, 2 from C-USA, and 1 each from the A10, MVC, Sun Belt, and ASUN, and transfer them to the Power 5 + 1. Those extra bids went to the Big XII (1), B1G (3), Pac-12 1, and Big East 1. The goal posts have been moved.
Sidebar: Seven (7) of the eight (8) Big Ten teams failed to make the NCAA Sweet 16.
SLU is not dropping down to change conferences. SLU needs to be in the Big East.
We agree on your final statement about SLU being in the Big East as they had two Jesuit U's that made it the 2023 NCAA Tourney in Marquette and Xavier. Then their is the other Jesuit U Gonzaga who has been in their own world as far as NCAA Tourney Appearances...24 straight for HC Mark Few. Do the Gonzaga fans complain about the current pecking order for choosing Schools for the NCAA. Only way would be in their seeding if even that.
IMHO SLU would have made the Big East expansion if and only if Rick Majerus had still been HC when it happened. Unfortunate but for us SLU fans that was how the cookie crumbled in more ways than one. A lot of things went downhill with his passing.
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49 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said:
It’s not quite that simple, if you mean to get a NCAA at large, Win nearly All your games. SLU probably needed to win 5 more games just to be on the bubble to get snubbed, again.
VCU received the A10’s automatic bid by virtue of winning the A10 Tourney.
Well I can think of 3 games beside the terrible home loss to SIUE where they blew a huge 2nd half lead. SLU got clobbered by Iona, Maryland, and lost to Auburn on the road in a game that they probably should have won. Now I don't know about you but those games that could have helped SLU's NCAA Tourney resume didn't cut the mustard as far as NCAA honks deciding who should get into the Tourney. SLU simply did not deserve to be in no matter how anyone wants to whine about the selection process!
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3 minutes ago, gobillsgo said:
You’re grasping at straws. No one has told any “Ford supporters” they aren’t welcome, or to leave the board. I don’t see how any reasonable fan could still be a “Ford supporter” at this point, but that’s not my problem.
I think almost everyone acknowledges that Travis seems like a good guy, he’s just not the right person to lead this program anymore.
Amen!!!
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5 minutes ago, BigMouthBilliken said:
“We” is the majority of this board. And if it’s not the majority I’d like to see a poll created to see how all the posters stack up. Settle it once and for all
Exactly, some on here I'd guess haven't been around for as long as others. Sone probably did not attend SLU as many have on here. Yes, I actually attended many games when Ron Ekker was HC in the late 70's and early 80's...very bad teams with one of the all time great players in David Burns who played for them. Wonder how many on here saw as I did Eugene Moore, Barry Arms, and John Kilo play at SLU.
The point being there have been good and bad players and HC's in SLU's basketball history. When expectations are high like they have been during Ford's tenure I disregard some of the people on here who get on those that want Ford gone. He's had enough time to prove his worth so count me as someone who hopes the information provided by another person turns out to be 100% correct!
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6 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:
Well, I would say:
A change at the athletic director position. Due to his horrendous PR tour.
A major change among the coaching staff.
A major change in the recruiting focus.
The change at the end of the day should be Ford's termination, because it's the right move, because he has not performed to the level set forth in his contract. Not because we want it.
Amen
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Well my favorite winning Jesuit U Gonzaga just keeps their Sweet 16 record in tact with an exciting win late last night. As a SLU hoops fan I only dream that my alma mater could somehow reach their status in the college basketball world.
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Two more Jesuit U's in the Sweet 16 Xavier and Creighton, and I'll be surprised if my fave Gonzaga does not make it 3 before the end of tonight. Come on Billiken fans it can be done with the right players and HC.
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24 minutes ago, brianstl said:
Don't know if OU is already to say goodbye to Porter. Let's make sure the rumor on Ford holds true then the speculation can begin on the new HC.
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1 hour ago, courtside said:
I was told Saturday morning by 3 people, (there are others involved too) that Travis Ford is out as SLU’s coach. An announcement would happen soon. 2 of the 3 are among SLU’s highest level boosters. And the third, is connected with the NBA.
Sure hope this is true!!! Maybe the Big Boosters were tired of turning on their TV this week and seeing all the Jesuit U's in the NCAA Big Dance once again this year. Heck Xavier just advanced in today's first game. It's time to say goodbye to Travis Ford...Please!!!
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17 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said:
Texas to the Sweet 16. I'm hearing this was the benchmark needed for Rodney Terry to keep the job.
I'm kinda worried this is a Crews situation because he's been a HC and never had much success. However to paraphrase the great Rick Majerus, "Recruiting to Texas is like recruiting an alcoholic to a New Year's Eve party." So I'm hopeful also, Purdue is out, KU is out and Final 4 is in Houston this year. Who knows.
Understand he was Asst at Texaas when Rick Barnes was HC. Rick and Rodney embraced after Vols beat them earlier this year.
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Princeton winning a game of horse at the 3 point arc against the Tigers.
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My wife the VFL is very happy with the Lady Vols 2nd quarter run that has doubled up the Lady Bills.
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6 minutes ago, cheeseman said:
No my point was that when an unusual thing happens we don't disregard it. Sorry that I made this so hard for you to understand.
I was thrilled that SLU was in the NCAA that year and it did not matter to me what the circumstances were for their getting into the Tourney.
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45 minutes ago, brianstl said:
Painter sort has a Norm Stewart thing going on at Purdue.
Let's not put him on any future HC possibilities for SLU!
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VCU gets sent home by St. Mary's today. We lose 3 to VCU this season while St. Mary's won one game from Gonzaga who regularly rules the roost in their conference. St. Mary's was the better team and have been coached very. well by a former SLU Asst for years. Still the team I emulate and hope the Billikens could become is Gonzaga. Probably won't happen during my lifetime.
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4 hours ago, WVBilliken said:
I went to SLU and it is the team I follow and cheer for the most. But yes, I also have connections to MIZZOU and WVU. So I cheer for those teams too but to a much lesser extent. Never understood fans that can't cheer for more than one team.
Me either Go Vols!!!
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1 hour ago, Taj79 said:
All the best for Shari Schasz.
Thank Taj
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Bell just fouled out with over 10 minutes left and West VA up by 1.
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10 hours ago, billikenblue said:
I had a friend who had great results with Keytruda. Shari is in my thoughts ...be strong for her . All my best to both of you.
Thanks billkenblue!
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15 minutes ago, BIG BILL FAN said:
I don’t think most have any clue what SLU and other mid majors are up against. Here are facts not opinions. There are 358 division 1 teams and 68 tournament bids. There are 32 automatic bids which means that leaves 336 teams vying for 36 at large bids. This year 33 of those bids went to P6 schools which left 3 spots for the remaining 269 non P6 schools which equates to a 1 in 90 chance. The system is a joke and is only getting tougher. To compound the difficulty SLU is in a conference that is trending down in the numbers of bids, yet still has 4-6 teams which are regularly competing for the top spot. You can ***** all you want about the coach, but the reality is whoever is the coach will be facing a major uphill battle.
Big Bill Fan...I appreciate everything you mention. It is not easy to make the NCAA. Then their is the one Jesuit U that all SLU fans should look at...Gonzaga. Not hard to look at Mark Few's magnificent 24 year record as HC with an ,837 overall winning record. Hells Bells he has NEVER not been in the NCAA Tourney. He's lost in two NCAA Finals. His teams always seem to reload each and every year. Yes, they play in the WCC but that league rarely gets just one team in the NCAA Tourney, and he plays a few top P-5 team every year...WCC is more competitive than the A-10 from that aspect year in and year out. When anyone asks me what I wish SLU could be or attain in one word Gonzaga. That is the Jesuit to root for this and pretty much every year. That is what I keep dreaming SLU would become!!!
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3 hours ago, BrettJollyComedyHour said:
My mom's name is Shari, sending all the support for her.
Thanks a lot Brett!
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6 hours ago, juniorbill76 said:
Prayers in for healing and peace.
Thanks very much!
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Wonder what the Zags pay Mark Few...being a Jesuit U it would be a guess, but surely he'd make this list.