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Gotcha. Appreciate the info guys. I am not to familiar with A10 personnel. Sounds like they could make a formidable backcourt.

Saw the video on Allen. Nice player...great shooter. Wouldn't that be a small backcourt tho with him and Goodwin? Because unless Goodwin grew a few inches this summer he's not 6'4 as some have listed. I like the moves Ford has made so far...things are looking up for SLU.

Riiiight. There are a few parties worried about that exact thing. Jeremiah is a good kid...I hope he makes the right decision for him and not others. Appreciate the info on available scholarships as well. Congrats to Stipanovich on his commitment ?

Tilmon is going back to East Side. I heard rumblings today about him opening up his commitment as well.

I don't see Tilmon changing his mind and going to SLU but I could be wrong. I heard Tilmon was having 2nd thoughts on going back to the school in Indiana this year. He might be focusing on that right now.

Ryan Warren-Hogue did kind of disappear after his freshman season. He tried out for the Eagles 15u AAU team and I believe he was cut in favor of David Sloan from KY. Ryan's a fierce competitor as well...but he's pretty much the same height as he he was his Freshman year. I think he will be at Northwest High School this season. As for Wyatt...I believe he would have fit in with the type of players Crews was recruiting. SLU reissued that offer after Ford took over but I think the family realized the direction Ford was going in and took the Yale offer. They want him to go somewhere he will play.

Stockard has official visits to Xavier and Kansas St set for next month. He's received calls but no offer from SLU. As the other poster stated maybe Ford has seen something in the returning bigs and with the 6'8 Rutgers transfer. Ford might be focusing on a big in the 2018 class. Looks like he's putting a nice group of talent together tho.

Congrats to Goodwin. Proud of the young man. I've watched him grow and mature as a person and a player over the years. It will interesting to see if he can make the transition to pg (if that's true) and still maintain the level of production we're use to seeing from him.

Possible offer to a "big" soon as they continue to work on Goodwin.

Great post Pistol. Some of those kids I was unfamiliar with. Appreciate your research. Eastern and Gunn are good kids. Gunn has been shooting since 3rd grade lol. I really like Eastern's development over the years....plus I think he's like 6'4-6'5 now. Hearing that Tate is on the move locally on the recruiting tip...hopefully we hear some good news on that front.

I get what you're saying Cheeseman. A lot of kids do choose the more "prestigious" program...when sometimes their talent might dictate them going somewhere else. When I mentioned fit I was including the bb program. But...if your job says we need to send you out of state for 6 months for training but you will be back after that I'm sure there's a difference between choosing let's say Cali, Texas, Vegas and North Dakota. It matters where u go lol. As for Zeke Moore...I have to admit I was late in the game on him. I saw him the summer before his Senior year and a few games during his Senior year. He's a competitor. Needs to add a little weight in my opinion. Tighten up his handles some. When his shot is on he is hard to guard. I also witnessed the playoff game his Senior year in which I believe he scored 3pts with the ball in his hands the majority of the game. I do believe he can contribute this coming year though.

I just think it has to be a good fit for the student and the Institution. Every kid won't meet SLU's criteria...SLU might not meet theirs as well. These are kids we are talking about. Most coming from top notch high school programs and AAU programs. They want to play..be part of a winning program...and enjoy being a student. I've been a fan of Goodwin since 5th grade. Like Zink said...he's a gamer. Very competitive. A local player like that can possibly lead to other kids wanting to stay home. As for Verge...umm I don't think that would be a good fit. Very talented player tho

I think the hiring of Tate is a good move. He has a good connection to Goodwin and is already setting up visits with other local kids. Question for you guys: with this years incoming class to SLU plus the transfers... What is the greatest need you feel Ford needs to go after in recruiting? And would Goodwin fit with the direction Ford is taking them? Seems to be a lot of interchangeable wings coming to SLU ...6'5-6'7.

True. It takes two to tango. The interest has to be mutual. In my opinion... I think SLU is making the offers to the big names but I don't believe these kids have SLU/Mizzou high on their radar. I think Goodwin wants to stay close to home so I believe SLU has a good shot. But let's be real...how long did it take SLU to offer Tatum?? They are going for 4 and 5 stars when you have 3 stars locally that can help the program now. And let's not knock Murray St. Cameron Payne of the OKC Thunder attended there. Damian Lilliard went to a small school. Kids are finding other options. Not to say that these boys are NBA bound but they can go to other schools and have success. I hope all our local boys find good fits for them academically/athletically. If it's local...then all the better.

I will see if I can get that info. I know one did Juco...the others D2 I believe. One started last year the others came off the the bench with spot minutes. I heard a month or so ago that Goodwin was playing football this year but I don't know if that still holds true. Stockard hasn't decided if he's playing football this year. He's receiving high level interest from a few programs but no offers. McKissic is high on Murray St but no decision has been made.

I responded to incorrect information. I questioned...as did a few others about the recruitment or lack thereof of Stockard and rather than continue the dialogue assumptions were thrown out. As for preparing players for college...I am sure you know that most of the players Tony Irons had to work with were transfers (from "good" schools) in his early coaching years. Transfers who came to his program who weren't eligible for any college program. He helped them get to the next level. This class of 2017 is his first group he's had that came in as freshmen. Surely you saw on the news last year that his team had a GPA over 3.0. His 4 junior starters that won state all have qualified for D1. But...back on topic again. There's been minimal interest in both Stockard and McKissic from this coaching staff. Some teams are waiting to see if Stockard plays football this year. They are worried about him injuring himself. Maybe that's SLU's concern but both McKissic and Stockard are receiving the bulk of their attention from out of state teams. McKissic has an offer from Murray St as well.

Lol. This is my second post on this forum. You have just replied to my first. Vtime?? I didn't go to Vashon nor do I have a child that goes there. I also do not coach at the school. I was just supplying factual information to the topic. Not assumptions or myths. Another fact: 5 of the 6 Seniors that just graduated Vashon will be attending College on basketball scholarships. One of those kids barely played and it was his first year playing high school ball. Now, maybe the high school programs you are used to are sending kids to high Major D1s but i think the objective is to continue on to the next level. Whatever level your talent/grades dictate. Back on topic though...Levi's transcripts and ACT scores have been sent to each school that offered Stockard. There has been NO talk of prep schools or jucos. Now...which is it going to be? You guys are complaining about local kids not staying home and wishing this or that kid attends SLU but when you find out SLU is not offering these kids you attack the post? They are going heavy after the class of 2018...that's where their offers are going. McKissic would consider SLU...IF THEY OFFERED!! Gordon, Ramey, Watson aren't coming to SLU. But by all means...continue on with the assumptions and misinformation.

Stockard...along with all the other Senior starters at Vashon this year are all qualified for Division 1 ball. Not sure where you got your information. SLU has shown minimal interest since Ford has taken over. Maybe they have some better options at SLU they are focusing on. But not offering one of the top bigs in the state???