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Aundre Hyatt: PF, 6-6, 180, Bronx, NY (Archbishop Stepinac) – Offers: SLU, UMass, LaSalle, St. John’s, South Florida, Yale, Hofstra, Manhattan, Iona. Interest: VCU, Davidson, Xavier, Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Temple, Princeton, Cornell, Fairfield, James Madison. Latest News: After a breakout performance in the Nike EYBL (including a huge game against MOKAN Elite), Hyatt’s recruitment exploded. Scouting Report: Hyatt is a very athletic forward who can shoot the 3, handle the ball, and block shots. He’s a strong on-ball defender, as well. Young for his class, Hyatt is also an excellent student, with a 97% average. Twitter: @aundrehyatt_15
This kid is blowing up at the moment. He's only 15 and has a high ceiling. Read this: http://www.lohud.com/story/sports/high-school/lohud-varsity-insider/2016/04/18/stepinacs-aundre-hyatt-put-country-notice/83189412/
A four star smart kid should be at the top of our recruiting list. Of course, that is assuming the staff agrees with his four star assessment.
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I can tell you that he has some issues that would make coaching difficult and playing with difficult, too. There is a reason he bounces around...
+1 The folks at Vianney are going to take the high road and will never discuss the true issues that occurred. Should we write the kid off because of his experience there? No. He might turn his attitude around. But all factors have to be taken into account. If we end up bringing him in, and he exhibits the same attitude he had at Vianney, this board will fault Ford for ignoring the warning signs.
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Notable names on the Future150 2018 rankings:
28. Carte'Are Gordon
48. Tim Finke
54. Kevin Easley
76. Courtney Ramey
92. Torrence Watson
Jontay Porter is 60th but he's already committed to Washington.
Just looked at the Future 150 again and the rankings have updated:
20. Carte'Are Gordon
37. Tim Finke
45. Jontay Porter
53. Courtney Ramey
Also, found this interesting relating to the conversation a few days back about fertile recruiting grounds geographically, but there are four kids in 2018's top 75 players on Rivals that are within a three hour drive of St. Louis (actually within the top 53 players). There is only one kid in the top 75, from New Albany, Indiana, that is within a three hour drive of Cincinnati. I'm not trying to start any argument about which area produces better talent. I know that Indiana/Kentucky/Ohio is very good basketball recruiting territory. I'm just noting that in 2018, there is a lot of top level talent in and around St. Louis.
P.S. I didn't see Easley in the top 75. Not sure why when you pull out the Top150 it only shows you 75 players.
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Still a mystery for now - "undisclosed reasons" - but we might know more as of today. Someone with Webster Groves ties on Twitter says he'll announce today. Could be nothing, but he claims to have spoken with him yesterday.
He left on his own; wasn't kicked off or failing out or anything like that. Gordon was never thought to have liked Vianney very much.
I've heard some things that would make me question whether he would be a positive or a negative for SLU. Just because a guy is highly ranked does not mean that we should automatically be recruiting him. Other factors come into play other than your Rivals ranking.
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Don't forget Clagget. I'll be upset with him if his better players don't end up at SLU.
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I love being excited about recruiting again. The worst thing that can happen to a college basketball fan is for your program to be so low that you don't care much about recruiting. That's where we were for the last six months before the Ford hire.
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One of my big pet peeves is the misuse of the first amendment stuff. "Whatever happened to free speech!"
+1 Most Americans don't understand what exactly the First Amendment means or what it does. I have seen situations where both sides of an argument misunderstand and misapply the First Amendment.
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Also, welcome Coach Macon. I know they don't or shouldn't read this board, but it is tradition.
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This looks very promising. One tweet said that he wouldn't have any restrictions on the schools he can contact. I assume that means for being granted his release.
I may have missed it in the article, but how many years of eligibility does he have left?
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What's the population count around Tacoma, WA where Zaga resides, probably less than a mil? Winning solves so many problems. Thanks J Crews for making us losers... big losers.
How about around Omaha where Creighton seems to do well. Or Wichita. If we sustain some success, getting local kids will be a huge benefit. There is a lot of talent coming out of St. Louis.
I assume we will have to start from the ground up, though. Get kids from wherever and start being competitive. Once that happens, you can supplement your national or Midwest recruiting with St. Louis kids that wouldn't mind staying home if the team is going to be successful. Having both, national and local, is necessary to what we want. It's what Xavier, Gonzaga, Creighton, etc. do to maintain their success.
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I was driving on Olive a few days ago and noticed that a traffic light is going up at the Olive Street entrance to the Olive Parking Garage. I assume this is being done to make exiting the garage after a game easier.
I took a picture of it, but I don't know how to put a picture on a post. I assume there's some trick to it. Does anyone know?
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If he can get Moore, that would be outstanding. However, I worry we are headed down the same road with Moore as we were with Coach Drew. The board sets its expectations way too high on a guy that we may never have a shot at. Then, when Ford does sign some kid, everyone's down on him, because he's not a four star. Until a coach, hopefully Coach Ford, gets us to a level of sustained success, we cannot expect this level of recruit.
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Verbal Commits has us as having offers out on three guys for 2017 other than ZM.
They are Nick Robinson (6'6" out of Chicago), Aleem Ford (6'7" out of Georgia), and Lorenzo Edwards (6'7" out of Chicago). Does anyone know anything about these guys? Verbal Commits has us down as having made offers, but those offers might be stale at this point.
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Whether or not we get this guy, I like that we are on this list. I know all it means is that we contacted him, but that fact makes me feel better than what was happening before.
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Watching that video caused a couple thoughts to pop into my head:
1. Clearly that was T. Boone money buying that situation. That was much nicer than most pro teams.
2. We would have to give the team Lorenzini's to have enough room to replicate that situation.
3. I hope the 4 star players that Ford was getting to come there were coming due to his outstanding recruiting skills and not simply because they saw that locker room and said "I'm home!"
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The Hines scholly needs to remain in play. If Ford can find three quality guys willing to come here, he needs to use it to bring all three in. If he can only get two or one, then give it back to Hines.
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The vast majority of the people who were upset would have settled for a Russell Turner, TJ Otzelberger, Martin Ingelsby, Chris Caputo, etc.. People weren't pissed because they didn't land Drew, Stallings, or Jacobsen. That is a completely false narrative. They were upset because Ford got the job.
I agree, but I believe he was commenting on the few that thought we were going to get Drew or Stallings or that we should go after Jacobsen. His assessment that we had unrealistic expectations was not accurate in that it did not reflect what many on the board were feeling. I only agreed with him with respect to those that thought we should get one of those guys.
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Also interesting that Dayton has a greater value to it than Xavier.
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Interesting that Mizzou is valued higher than Florida.
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He referenced the board the morning after Stu's story about Ford coming to SLU broke as well. Said it cracked him up and was a fun read...but that we had unrealistic expectations.
He was right. Those that thought we were getting Drew or Stallings or Jacobsen weren't being realistic.
That being said, Bernie needs to stop reading message boards, or at the very least realize that message board represent only a small portion of a fan base. I like listening to Bernie, but he needs to stop using the "my opinions vs. the message boards opinions" crutch to drum up controversy for his opinions and his show. He's entertaining to listen to without that. I always thought of him as the anti sports shock jock type.
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I was a big Miles supporter at the beginning, and I see each transfer as a missed opportunity for these kids to show what they can do under a coach that is not Jim Crews. However, with that being said, Coach Ford's special talent is supposed to be recruiting. So, each opening is a new opportunity for him to do what he does best.
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Again, which is what we should have done. There was nothing on Jim Crews' resume which gave anyone - even those who supported the hiring of Crews - any indication that Jim Crews was the best guy for our job. The politics of SLU being perceived as "loyal", "nice" and speculative fear about SLU firing such a "great guy" who filled in for deceased friend (RM) and after receivng "National Coach of the Year" honors was all bs. Had we hired a proven head coach (Travis Ford, Bryce Drew or Kevin Stallings type guy) there would have been no problems -- especially with a good PR firm spinning stories about Crews' advancing age, his having previously been retired and out of coaching but for RM and Alex Jensen, his not really wanting to be a coach again (whether true or not) and about SLU's need for the program to have a young/high energy guy who is not old or in bad health... Recall that we had the money in that RM had long already been making over a $1 million per year (we even paid Crews $850,000 per year) so I am sure we could have hired someone really good -- not some no-name, up and coming guy. Crews may have looked good compared to the likes of then "up and coming" assistant coaches like Soderberg and Gregory but not compared to Ford, Drew or Stallings.
One interview by Crews where he says "no, I wanted to coach that team next year and into the future, but they didn't give me the chance," and any PR you did is worthless. Then the new coach would have been measured by the success Crews had in that first year. Comparing the new coach to that year would have already, by now, resulted in the new coach being fired.
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Coach Ford went to the Final Four to assemble a staff. Why have we not heard anything yet about any hires? Is it possible they decided to wait until after the championship game to make announcements, and we'll hear something today?
Recruiting - 2016
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In fairness, I said the last six months. I agree with what you said about the excitement over recruiting, but that was before realizing that we were headed for another bad season and feeling like we were never going to be enticing to any decent recruits ever again.