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    The Appeal

    in Billikens.com Main Board

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    55 minutes ago, bauman said:

    You forgot to mention, JFK, Teddy K., G Hart, Bill Clinton. Al F. and so on.  :huh:

    Al Franken resigned over the accusations made against him. The Democrats might lose a Senate seat due to it.

    "Oh yeah, but what about JFK?" is a interesting defense of Trump.

    Do you believe President Trump should resign over his many, and very severe, sexual misconduct allegations?

    Complete Shock

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    13 hours ago, DeSmetBilliken said:

    I'd have put this in the main thread, but I think my comments after having time to collect my thoughts fit better here. 

    Unless the Circuit Attorney's Office files criminal charges early next week, this has the potential to work out very badly for SLU. If Rosenblum's comments are even close to accurate, then these guys have been essentially branded as sexual predators because 1-3 women were embarrassed after the fact. If the punishment was something to the effect 1 semester, or time served, then you could think that the behavior of the players was a little unsavory, and the university wasn't comfortable in letting it go unpunished, but of course that isn't what happened. 

    If Rosenblum's narrative gets into the right or wrong hands, depending on your view of things, you could be looking at journalists looking around the university's practices, or potentially even the federal government poking around. As we've learned from this, it's always best to avoid the investigation phase, because anything can happen. At minimum, the university has set itself up to be the defendants in civil suits which may be filed by the players. As has been discussed, there is precedent of universities ending up paying settlement money in these suits, so SLU could be looking at several hundred thousand dollars in civil damages and legal fees there.

    On to basketball: this obviously hurts the basketball program badly. Maybe the players we have that are eligible to play stay at SLU, and maybe we can keep some recruits. Key emphasis on maybe. I think we'll see some defections though. We will be behind the 8 ball in recruiting in the future, at least with some players. For probably the next 5 years, every African-American player we recruit will hear the following from competing coaches, and maybe people within their own circles: "If you go to SLU, you'll get thrown out of school for even looking at a white girl." How's that going to work out for us? Depending on how Ford feels about how this process has gone, he could decide to leave for the first chance he gets to get out of here, and we have to start over at square one. A few more years of bad records, declining attendance and interest, and slipping further into mediocrity.

    I guess if there is one silver lining for SLU, it's that they'll probably still do well in getting white, suburban, female prospective students to enroll, as they and their parents can feel comfortable that if daddy's little girl has a regrettable experience with a black man, never fear: SLU will swoop in and buff that black guy out so she can go on with her life and her parents don't have to worry about being embarrassed.

    I will add that with some exceptions, most of us here don't really know what happened that night. At some point in time, more details will likely come out, and maybe they will reveal some type of misconduct that justifies some or all of these suspensions. We'll have to wait to find out.    

    Don't agree with the bolded at all. SLU had a basketball player accused of sexual assault before the season, they allowed him to play all season, then severely punished him for his role in the alleged sexual assault. I have no problem with them holding the 3 out of games while they're being investigated, specifically to avoid this type of scenario, where they let a basketball player play and then later have to say whoops, turns out we had a sexual predator representing SLU on the biggest stage, but please keep sending your daughters to SLU.

    SLU made the absolute worst decision they could have in this situation. Ruined this season, ruined the program for the foreseeable future, while also sending the message that a sexual predator was allowed to represent the university on the biggest stage.

    Off topic: Moderation

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    23 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said:

    It seems to me that when you say, "Moderate," you actually mean the opposite.  What you're really saying is, "Polarize the forum such that it contains only content we like."

    Do you believe that limiting posts or banning posters from an online message board is a freedom of speech issue?

    Luis Santos Commits to SLU

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    I don't get it either. You're spending a scholarship on a player who has to sit out a year, then he may or may not pan out. Transfer years should be used on a player that you're pretty sure will be a big contributor when he's eligible. Would have rather seen a high school player.

    In the next 2 years Crawford, Agbeko, Moore, Neufeld, Gillmann, and Roby are outgoing. Goodwin, French, Santos, Gordon, and Thatch are incoming. So Gillmann leaving didn't really open up any more scholarships, still 1 scholarship left.

    JT requests Release from NLI

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    Not sure why there is so much Missouri Tigers discussion on this board. This is a Billikens board not a Missouri Tigers board. If Missouri Tigers fans are looking for a place to discuss Missouri basketball, they should check out www.tigerboard.com, not use this board instead. Tigerboard is a message board aimed at discussing Missouri Tigers athletics.

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