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-this is horrible, I think someone posted that his wife is pregnant that just adds to the grief, rest in peace
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55 minutes ago, courtside said:
They were unseeded in the NCAA Tourney this year out of 16 seeds. They have a good team.
In the NCAA Tourney, they defeated SIUE, BYU, Rice, TCU. BYU was a 12. Rice had an upset win over 5 West Virginia. TCU was the 4 seed.
Virginia of course plays in the crowded ACC. Two of those teams, FSU and UNC are the two best teams Nationally. Duke was 9. Clemson 14.
BYU, SLU, USC, would be perhaps 3 of the teams that moved ahead of them for seeds.
Virginia is among the Power 5 leagues that played both a fall and Spring season. The ACC, SEC, and Big 12 did this.
Seeding this season was challenging. Penn St. dominated the mediocre Big 10, then inexplicably lost to Iowa in conference tourney. They were a top 10 National Seed prior, and then were not seeded in top 16.
Some teams were punished a little bit if they didn't get some spring results. UVA went 0-1-1 vs West Virginia in the Spring. They had a few games canceled, and defeated a few bad A-10 teams. TCU had a strong fall, and played more Spring games too. They were rewarded for scheduling and results. Vandy went from SEC Champs in the fall, as good as anyone, to not getting many Spring games, missing a few players, getting a 0-0 draw with Duke, so they were pushed down to 16.
TCU was an even game for UVA. But prior to that UVA has won comfortably in this year's NCAA. And, they are playing well.
The ACC has shown in the NCAA Tourney, that their top 5 can play with anybody nationally.
-getting 3 out for the Final Four is certainly good for their league
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On 5/5/2021 at 8:54 PM, Pistol said:
Why? Other students can go make money however they want, including those on scholarship.
-My disagreement isn’t as much on the ability of student athletes to get paid under the NLI as it is on your description that the NCAA’s amateurism model is a sham and has been hurting athletes for too long. How many student athletes, millions? hundreds of thousands? certainly the number is at least in the thousands, have received athletic scholarships to get a college degree. I don’t have stats for this but some or many came from backgrounds without the means to afford the cost of college and that degree gave them a chance they wouldn’t otherwise have had.
-Student-athletes did get a lot in return for scoring touchdowns, making baskets, or whatever their sport involved. For many years they have gotten tutoring not otherwise available to other students. Training tables. Medical care. Clothing and shoes. Tuition, room and board. All of this, and probably more not coming to mind, tax free.
-These kids are not lining up to get kicked in the gut or worse. Far from it.
-If these kids didn’t know the rules before they went to school, that is on them, their high school, their parents, handlers, coaches or whoever. There has been a substantial benefit to so many student athletes through athletic scholarships affording them the chance at a college degree. To call that a sham and that athletes have been hurt by it rings hollow to me.
-For those attending college just to play sports, I think college is not the place for them or that.
-But it seems you have a different view of the value of the current situation, which I am not saying is perfect. I don’t think you can change my mind like I probably can’t change yours. That’s okay.
-If you want to debate the integrity, honesty, usefulness of the NCAA, you will get very little debate from me. That organization lost its way somewhere along the line, yeah probably by chasing dollars, that whatever changes get forced on it are of its own making.
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1 hour ago, 3star_recruit said:
Taking into account inflation, the average athlete made more money during the summer in 1960 than he does now. Kids back then weren't required to be athletes year-round. They had summer jobs back then.
-kids are not required to do anything now, they choose to play a sport in college, with the roses and the warts
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3 hours ago, Pistol said:
The thing that isn't changing is the number of players on a roster. Fans at our level can wring their hands all they want about the "rich getting richer" but there are only 13 scholarships to give, and rotations only go so deep. There just aren't enough spots for those programs to take from the tiers below them. Be it transfers or the NLI stuff, the balance of power doesn't really shift, it's just the means by which players get to their ultimate destinations.
People are also thinking way too locally in terms of how NLI will play out.
First and foremost, players would be able to monetize social media. That has nothing to do with where they're physically located or which school they attend. They can partner with brands from anywhere for sponsored content. An elite dunker can go viral from anywhere.
Secondly, the earning power of athletes in non-revenue sports is never higher than when they're in college. There just isn't a pro infrastructure for a lot of them, so if someone's a star field hockey player and a company that makes field hockey equipment wants to use her in advertising, it never makes more sense than when she's an active collegiate player. This is honestly true for most revenue generating sport athletes, as well, since so few play pro ball. A guy like Goodwin may have been more marketable over the past four years than he will be over the next four. College athletes are also perfect candidates for modeling.
Third, this allows athletes to be compensated when their NLIs are used for video games and other media representations.
Fourth, when it comes to local marketing, is market size really the best determinant of how much an athlete could make? A stud football player in Stillwater, Oklahoma might have more NLI value there than he would at Rutgers in the NYC market if you're thinking in terms of car dealerships and pizza chains. Almost 100% name recognition in a small place vs. minimal name recognition in a big city. It just depends on what opportunities are available.
I could go on. Point is, there's just no logical argument against this. The sham of the NCAA's amateurism model has to end. It's been hurting athletes for too long. And SLU loses nothing if this rule change passes, either.
-if they are just athletes, sure, if they are student-athletes I disagree
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3 hours ago, HoosierPal said:
Likely to be recommended
- Laptops, tablets allowed on the bench for coaching purposes only -- what is a coaching purpose?
- Tweak traveling interpretation to universally allow players to Euro step, use spin moves and step-backs - imo there is too much traveling and not controlling the ball in the game already, this would seem to add to it
Unlikely to be recommended
- Widening the lane to 16 feet (currently 12 feet) - in our case, how this impact rebounding missed ft's?
- Award possession to defense after a held-ball - I like this better than alternating possession that is currently in place
- Eliminate 10-second backcourt rule - not a fan of this one, defense is part of the game
- Allow offensive team to decline free throws in final two minutes and overtime(s); opt for inbound instead - not a fan of this one, the ability to shoot ft's is an integral part of the game
- Eliminate five-second closely guarded rule - I believe this can only be called now if a player receives a pass in the frontcourt and holds the ball, I would go back to the old 5-second closely guarded rule - defense should be an integral part of the game so why make so many rules in favor of the offense? just for tv ratings?
- Allow instant replay on shot-clock violation in final two minutes/overtime on a missed shot - I don't know that there are too many reviews now, but I think too many of them take way too long
- Allow instant replay on basket interference/goaltending calls -- but only if/after an official calls the violation - see above
Potential for two-year NIT trial period
- Two-timeout limit per team with under two minutes in regulation and throughout overtime(s) - not a fan of this one, why dictate to a coach when they have to use a timeout?
- Eliminate offensive basket interference and use FIBA rule instead: ball is always live after it makes contact with the rim - I don't see a problem with the current rule
Big debates await
- Introduce quasi quarters by resetting team fouls at 10-minute mark of each half. Begin double bonus on fifth foul within each 10-minute segment. This eliminates the one-and-one free throw - not a fan of this one, either, if I want to watch the NBA I will watch the NBA
- Modified six-foul rule: player is allowed three fouls per half (would be disqualified if they committed four fouls in a half). However, a player can commit two or three first-half fouls and have as many four or three more to use for the remainder of the game, allowing for six total - I don't like this one by itself either, if they want to change other rules to eliminate hand-checking and physical play, then perhaps, but with the current system seems ripe for even more physical play
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-people spend their money for all kinds of reasons, if some spending benefits SLU then I'm all for it, and sometimes it is driven by ego, if the president of ABC Corp wants to invite player A to have lunch with them for $5k or $50k, under the new system, go for it
-Adman raises some interesting points on this and the decisions that will need to be made
-welcome to the somewhat regulated wild wild west
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-good for Fordham and the A10 with these two players
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-curious what folks are thinking the increase in season ticket cost will be?
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-can someone please post The Conklin Screen with Rammer's call in this thread? let's again treat the Huskies just like that
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-thank you, Go Ladies!!
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-did the team fly to NC?
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-I hope whoever was grading Yuri's defense factored in the number of charges he took, I guess he was team leader in that stat, if it is kept
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15 hours ago, HoosierPal said:
I didn't want to start a new thread for this article. It portrays VCU's heartbreak covid experience at the NCAA's in Indy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/04/24/vcu-covid-ncaa-tournament/
-it reads like they did everything correct and still couldn't play because of positive tests, too bad for them also the A10 to miss a chance to get another unit
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51 minutes ago, CBFan said:
I am all in Cook showing our team how to get to the final 4.
-is he bringing Kispert, Suggs and Timme with him?
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1 hour ago, NoCoBillsFan said:
-Merry Christmas to all except Auburn Tigers
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2 hours ago, The Wiz said:
The 3 Pt foul shot is relatively rare when compared to all foul shots taken. I don't have any data that separates it out. Observationally, 3 P shooters tend to be better foul shooters....since 71.1 is C rated I would say 75% in general would be a good guess.
-thank you
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42 minutes ago, slufanskip said:
I want us to be favored every year. If we want to be a consistent top 25 team we need to embrace being the A10 fav
-THIS
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9 hours ago, The Wiz said:
It was 180....RM use to say he would take a 180 player ....sight unseen.
For a comparison ...on my system which rates all D1 players and then grades them on a curve ...an A+ player (D1) during the RM years while at SLU was 162.8. ( 47.6 / 39.1 / 76.1 ) which explains why he would take a player sight unseen. A 180 player would be like a AAA. Again for comparison ....adjusting for the new 3 pt line ...an A+ player in 2021 would be 163.5 ( 47.8 / 37.7 / 78 ). Overall in D1 ... FG% about the same.....3P% down and FT% up since the RM years.
Btw...The upcoming season will be the 10th anniversary of RM's best and last full season as SLU's head coach.
-Wiz, any chance your well of information has the stat on if a 3pt shooter is fouled and doesn't make the shot, what is the free throw make % versus the overall ft make %? a bar conversation during conference tournament week has me wondering
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-is there any money for the schools playing in this Tourney? I couldn't find any info on this
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-good work, Ladies, keep it going!
-our first game will be Friday, April 30 at 6pm CT
-I hope a problem to have, but with how our team rightly addresses academics, let's have a long stay in North Carolina with no grade impacts - I guess a good thing about a team that is so young is some wouldn't be in their hard core major classes
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-expected seed? granted we will know at noon tomorrow
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18 hours ago, courtside said:
A-10 Awards:
Hannah Friedrich was named Offensive Player of the Year.
Emily Puricelli was named Defensive Player of the Year.
Abbie Miller was named Midfielder of the Year.
7 Billikens were named First Team All A-10 and 1 was named 2nd Team.
Others joining the above mentioned players on the first team were Brionna Halverson, Lyndsey Heckel, Hannah Larson, Sophia Stram. Emily Groark was named to the 2nd team.
Emily Brunts made the A-10 All Academic Team. 26 SLU players had a GPA of 3.0 or higher and at least 10 had straight A's.
-4 of these are frosh, that is great
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12 hours ago, Compton said:
Nate Oats is big name now?
-he took a verbal swipe at Coach K so he's at least okay in my book
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-I would guess there would be a way to donate to the family that gets released, if not, if Steve would collect contributions and donate in the name of Billkens.com that might be nice