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I assume this response means you didn't do your homework and find out from Stevens why he thinks we are a Final 4 team. Let me give you a less daunting task since you seem to need something to do. Go on to the Butler board and tell them you are a better evaluator of basketball talent than Stevens. I am guessing you may have done this already which may be why you hang out here. If you haven't, get back to us and let us know if the Butler board agrees with the concept of.....Rudy>Stevens.
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This is a huge game, if we win, not only will we take control of the A-10 race, but we wil have a resume that should push us into the 4-6 seed range, For the tourney.
Also a big game for us this weekend is the UNM at Colorado State game ....
Col St by 5 over New Mex
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After tomorrow's game, we will be favored in all the remaining games including the A-10 tourney. Even if we lose 1 or 2 (out of 8) that should be a lock. The Dance committee likes to look at the last 10 games of the season for seeding. It would be pretty impressive to finish 10-0 or 9-1 (or like Jimbo said 16-0)
But first, let's beat Butler.
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Sorry, that was supposed to be three more zeros. $100 million.
Now you have too many zeros...Try $30million...all private...
see link below
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Lol... who was talking about points and career... wow... lack of attention on your own board... there was not statement about career status, it was initiated by conversation about hinkle fundraising... wow... did you graduate.
You said you have never heard of Larry Hughes...I was merely filling you in on some basketball history...turning your fiction into fact.
As for inattention....seems like you missed the total gist of the the thread...."Stevens is singing our praises"....I will assume you know who Stevens is.
Well, if you read the original post, this guy Stevens thinks we are pretty good...in fact he thinks we are a Final 4 team.
So here's is what you need to do .....if you feel the need to talk additional smack, I suggest you talk to our biggest supporter, this Stevens guy, and set him straught. I believe he is in Indy now and probably has some time to chat with you.
Please get back to us when you have his answer. If you can't convince him then there is no point in you wasting our time here.
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No weather problems?
You must be joking. Or ignorant.
Or read the last line of my post above and you will understand.
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What? No...no comparison, besides I have no idea who larry hughes is, but you know who Gordon Hayward is for sure... see the juxtaposition of reputations? The statement made previous was about 100k and beer. Hence the obvious rebuttal about more true facts vs fiction.
NBA career
Larry Hughes =10,242 points
Gordon Hayward=1782 points
LH>GH
So if you don't know the facts then it must be fiction.
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Not a lot?? You know how many damn candy bars you have to sell to get $100,000?
If it is a Nestle "100 Grand"....only 1
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Sorry I missed this thread.
I mentioned in another thread X by 5 and also had Bonnies by 1. An amazing score....over 190 pts combined.
In tonight's game, I have Temple by 1. Big game for LaS. If they win their dance chances stay alive...a loss and they fade .
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I didn't get the sense the Bills were playing at a frenetic pace last night. In fact, the opposite, they were pretty calm and collected. I don't think VCU drained them and I don't think they're thinking as cocky as we fans are. These guys are all about getting 'er done. Butler will not be easy, but on paper I think we've got them athletically, a deeper bench, and a D that can slow down anyone. Clarke is the key for them. The kid can launch from anywhere, so it's key we keep him under lock and key.
When I said a bit drained I wasn't just talking about physical but mental too. Playing VCU is not the same intensity as playing Ford or Duq. physically or mentally (focus). You will notice last night we played hard to the final seconds...no let up.
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... freaking enjoyable. Bottom line. Nothing to complain about. Total domination which I wasn't sure was possible but now see it is so. I have picked those damn Dawgs for Friday night but am not scared by the Hinkiedome. We are a better team with more talent and much deeper. I will not chnage the pick because I said what I said but wil gladly (and not shockingly) eat crow come Friday night. So be it.
Some observations .... loved reading the 64 pages of the VCU board on us. Some real clueless posters on there (as there are anywhere). But similar gripes to what we see here ... worst call ever, that was a flop, inadequacy of the refs, and so on. The one guy (districtballer) seemed an understanding and analytical sort. Who cares. Nice to see some of their unbridled enthusiasm breached and tempered. Even those believing they were coming back in the second half. Hey, they smoked Umass. No reason NOT to believe they wouldn't do it to us. But Jordair really turned on the jets and took three minutes to quell the rally all by his lonesome. Zone? I'll say. Guy had his own zone all to his bad self. I suspect it will be a war zone if or when we see them again in Brooklyn.
Refs. I thought the calls were adequate but recognize we won so my enthusiasm is slanted. Sorry they don't like flopping but it's a part of the game. How else do you counter a crazed maniac of a brute rushing towards the basket with sheer force and no skills? I said early on in our previews that VCU's free throw shooting was suspect (lost them the game at Richmond) and that they were not really adept at basketball skills. i think 53% from the line backs that up as does the 17% or 18% they shot in the first half when the game actually counted proves that point. Overall, 44% but there was a lot of easing off I thought by our guys iin the second half. I previewed that they are a team predicated on making layups off their defense. They didn't do that so they got creamed (two, last second three-pointers shortened that 20-point domination at the end). Although my last negative text to my buddy in Cleveland was how does a ref on the other side of the court make that call on Evans when there is a ref right in front of the action?
Game plan. While we did not exclusively attack the VCU defense in breaking their press, we used enough attack and enough set up the offense to make it go. I'm with the guys and Pete Gillen who says VCU clutches and grabs and rakes you all over the court. Even their board acknowledges they do that and it hurts when the refs call it that way. WTF?!?! A foul is a foul -- there should be no calling it "THAT" way it should always be that way. Do not discount the fact that their poor ass shooting in the first half contributed to their overall downfall but what has been somewhat overlooked (even by Ramnation) is that defense has something to do with missed shots. Yes, they rushed a whole lot of bunnies down low but that part they could control and did not.
ShakaTV. Why is CBS Sports so in love with the bald punk? Yeah, he's won, and I guess that's enough but at one point, the appearances on the tube were Shaka 6432, Rick Majerus 1 and Jim Crews 0. McCartney (I think) of CBS is always gushing over how Shaka coaches on the sideline and never sits down. He's a freak show at times. When does the quaintness of that wear off? I've watched them now against us, Umass, Richmond, Fordham, St. Joe's and La Salle and believe his 15 minutes of fame are long over. There is not much of a difference IMO from him and Hurley at Rhode Island except Shaka got to a final four. Annoying. I loved that I could hear one fan screaming "sit down Shaka" at a lot of the turns. Crews got no love on the TV apearnace front until under three minutes when I guess CBS decided it was decided. And, of course, we had Gillen again pushing how SLU needs to remove th einterim tag and do it now. Man, they guy has done so much. I'm on thefence on this one now bu tstill not sure I want moving forward to include him. But I am softening.
Jett. Amazing. Maybe he does jump to the head of our MVP thread based on that three minute zone he found last night. But do not misplace Ellis and his contributions. I love that the Ramnation is focused on his punk ass blue hair. And I'd probably hate him too if he wasn't on my team. I know I hate anyone named Plumlee. Same concept. McCall got some of his game back last night with 15. I loved that "little Mikey" didn't take crap from the big bad VCU Daniels lad and got hit with the double technical for their efforts. Don't back down. I stil don't see us as being the physical agressor but all the world -- the on-scene announcers, the talking heads in the studio, the paper reporters and the poor suffering fools on Ramnation -- all claim we are the bigger brutes. WHEN have you heard that about little ol' Saint Louie Ewie?
Barnett contributed. Glaze did just enough. Remeken and Loe too. We have found our new Conklin and he is named Evans. Mitchell is doing so well just running this team that his scoring is not needed nor missed. Just yet. We could win out but I doubt it.
I can't believe X is favored over VCU. If that is the case and it holds true, VCU is not as good as advertised. X is a bunch of freshmen .. Havoc should feast on them as they did GeeDub. I'll be watching La Salle go to Temple on Thursday on CBS again. Then on to NBC for the Butler game.
Bring home a winner.
Hmm....I have VCU by 5 over X
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Win or lose, as long as it's close I think we'll be ranked. Agreed?
And I think we have all and more that it'll take to go in and beat Butler by 12. I'm predicting a 65-53 win. Hopefully we'll carry a bit of momentum from last night into Indy and now we KNOW we can beat Butler. On the road, a nice win SHOULD bump us into the top 20. All it'll take is our normal lock-down D and if we can hit our threes like we showed we could yesterday, we'll be able to knock the crowd out of the game quick and it'll be another game in the W column.
S-A-I-N-T
Well, I would rank us but I don't vote. It is hard to say if we lost a close one. Remember, some of these writers don't have a clue. Some will still vote VCU above us.
That is why we need to......
Just win 2
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First of all, great win by the Bills. ...Great effort, great focus, great atmosphere, great job by JC.
I now have the Bills ranked at 24.
As for the But game, this will be a challenging one to say the least, As well as we have been playing, and with all the big wins(Butler one of them) for this game to be even shows how difficult it will be. I have this as our 2nd hardest game of the year. (KU first). For the naysayers, who say we will whip them easy because we have already done it once....we have to look no farther than Mizz/Fla. In the 1st game at Fl they whipped Mizz by over 30 points. Going back to Columbia, Fla which is a better team than But, loses.
If we can keep focused we win,... maybe even big (double digits) The point is just because we beat them easily last time doesn't mean we win this time automatically.
Positives....Momentum, confidence, a big win against them first time, more depth, playing well, team has jelled.
Negatives...away, Hinkle (tough venue), element of surprise gone...they underestimated us last time...Stevens will make adjustments, may be a slight let down after the big win against VCU...Bills may be drained a bit.
One thing I liked about the VCU game is we controlled the game. We forced them out of their game plan. VCU looked disorganized...yes, even for havoc. If we can dictate the game again, we win.
Just win 2.
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I think VCU is the best team of the three teams you mentioned.
I do too.
Here is how I would rank them right now
VCU...........A
New Mex....A-
But..............B+
Just win 2
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We have LaSalle at home and this team will be playing hard as that is the last regular season game. I like our chances at home at LaSalle.
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I like LaS too and think they have a decent chance at a bid (43%). But I, too, like our chances at home against them. We will be favored to win. That game may be more important to them than to us.
Just win 2.
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I don't get the Cody flops idea.
What Cody does is anticipate, get his feet set, and absorb the contact without moving. Try standing still and letting someone run into you and not falling. They don't have to hit you hard for you to fall over. Many blocking calls are due to the defender turning away from contact or moving slightly to avoid it including stepping back to stay up. Cody keeps his feet set which is why he goes down a lot.
For the VCU readers ... how dare we think we will win. Just doesn't make sense.
I don't understand either. They think that it is crazy for us (and the pundits) to think we will win yet they call themselves underdogs. Underdogs means you are not favored. I don't think it is crazy to think the favored team will win.
Just win 2.
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I almost feel like VCU could be the tougher game of the two. We aren't invincible at home this year, as Santa Clara and Rhode Island have demonstrated. VCU, like SLU, is red hot: 5 wins in a row, and 3 of those weren't even close. The A10 refs have never given us too much in the way of home cooking, so some of the slapping and grabbing that goes along with the Havoc defense might be allowed. They're 14th in the country in scoring, too, partially due to their being built to capitalize on turnovers and score in bunches.
Butler, on the other hand, just lost a home game last week. They barely beat GW and never ran away from Fordham, either. Two starters recently returned from injury and they have a serious problem with depth. We've already beaten them once this season in very convincing fashion. It seems like we match up pretty well with them.
They will both be tough games....we have a slight edge because we are at home. And that edge is not just the 10,000 fans but familar sightlines, baskets, no travel etc. Plus they haven't seen us.
Just win 2.
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This is a review of two things. First, I summarize the SLU information at RPI forecast to adjust for dance chances and express those chances as a potential seed. I modify the RPIforecast info with the DanceCard method. The DanceCard regression analysis translates RPI and profile information into an overall tournament selection rank. Note that this is different than a predictive rank or even raw RPI.
Second, I summarize the information available at the "the Bracket Matrix" (the site where they track all the different views of who will be in/out and seeded where. I include this information because the collective effort is generally better than any single effort; Joe Lunardi is famous because he started the ESPN column and Jerry Palm is famous because he started tracking RPI before anyone else but both are average to slightly below at predicting who gets in to the tournament. However, collectively when the group has a strong consensus they have never been wrong. There is seldom a consensus on the last 2-3 picks and that is where the quirks of the committee are difficult to predict.
SLU is in a better place than last week in the overall estimates with mixed overall news. SLU won a home game in which it was favored against a good team and a lot of non-conference opponents have been a tad worse than forecasted. The good news is that the DanceCard formula sees SLU as 4 ranks better than its pure RPI position (that is, the profile on net is good for improving SLU chances 4 positions better than RPI alone).
Overall chance at making tournament: 90.4% (based on Sagarin Predictor/RPI Forecast, Dancecard coefficientsand, and log5 forecast of A-10 tourney)
Last week I forgot to add the different seeds SLU could get for 4-6 more regular season losses but then winning the tournament (not likely but included in the higher seeds).
2 0.8%
3 4.3%
4 9.5%
5 13.9%
6 7.9%
7 3.4%
8 7.0%
9 11.5%
10 9.8%
11 10.1%
12 10.3%
13 1.4%
14 .5%
OUT 9.6%
Bracketologists with SLU in: 98.3% (57 out of 58) bracketologists updating since last Monday have SLU in right now. Do not worry the Illinois professor who forgot to include SLU seems to be absent minded. SLU is generally moving down the seed list (no great love but a consensus around 9 and 10 right now).
8 6.9%
9 37.9%
10 32.8%
11 19.0%
12 1.7%
13 1.7%
OUT*1.7%
Sources (apologies for not including the source information last week):
http://www.rpiforeca.../St. Louis.html
Nice analysis.....I have the Bills as a 9th seed now...if we win 2 ..I show they will be a 7.
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I think 2 weeks ago, I said we need to win these 2 games to get ranked. Right on target. Bizzle is correct in that there are some other scenarios where we could squeak in. How about let's win 2 and leave no doubt. 2 wins puts us in low 20's....2 big wins (double digits spreads for both games) and we could make teens.
There is a fair chance where we could do that against VCU(double digits)....but I am still concerned about Butler. I think Butler will be our 2nd toughest game of the season all things considered. The good news is we are not ranked and will come in as an underdog....bad news is that's it's their place and they have seen us once already.
Let's just take 2.
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We were shooting free throws and he was talking on the PA. We missed the shot. Not saying that's why we missed but I am sure it didn't help.
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If we can handle VCU, we can handle La Salle. La Salle is Philly playground at its guard-oriented finest. Galloway, Duren and Garland are all pretty damn good. Mills is adequate. Jerrelle Wright meets the standard of the 6'8"big man we turn into a star. Steve Zack is a hack. Their bench is weak and thin and usually is Garland and Zack. If Galloway gets frustrated by our defense, he can self-destruct. We did that to him last year at Gola. Garland seems like a second Galloway but I haven't seen him play but twice. Giannini is not that great of a bench coach; Majerus used to steal his lunch money. Plus we are at home on senior day.
VCU forced GeeDub into 25 turnovers last night. As I said, VCU's strength would take out GeeDubs weakness and win by 30. I was off .... they only won by 27. (Sorry your Wizship). VCU ran seven ...count them SEVEN ... guards at GeeDub last night. FR point Joe McDonald almost had just as many TO (8) as points (9). Kromah saw ONLY 14minutes as a guard so GeeDub went with youth. Juvonte Reddic, another 6'8" star in our making to come, went 11-for-13 and scored 24. VCU shot almost 54% from the field but I'd back out layups before I was all that impressed there. They shot 47% from three. They start four guards and the three off the bench played 54 minutes as well. Buckle up.
Again, if we break their press and then set up our usual offense, it just allows Havoc to reload and trap in the half court. We must get the ball into the middle and make them pay for their press. Then, when we do that, expect VCU to immediately inbound the balland race back up court. Seven guards lets them do this.
Nice call on VCU/GW...always good when you can get within 3 on a winning spread. Too bad about the Dayton miss...well you can't win them all.
Nice analysis on the VCU/Bills game. Sounds like it could be ....the unstoppable force(VCU) against the immovable object(Bills)
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what i fear from lasalle is they have better shooters than vcu. galloway, duren and peterson all shoot over 38% three's. vcu has two players that are near that.
both play similar styles of the athletic pressure with all the slapping biting, pulling, pushing that the refs love to ignore most nights.
i think lasalle is going to be the tougher play of the two. i had both down as losses prior to this run by the billikens. considering our fabulous defense though, i now believe we can win out.
after seeing the game last night, that was actually a good win imo. charlotte has some athletes and some size. reminded me a lot of the old bearcat teams from our cusa days. for us to end up with an 18 point win last night imo was a great result.
You are correct . LaS does have better 3 shooters than VCU. But what makes VCU different from LaS (and Day and Rich-all better shooters than VCU) is they shoot more than anyone else. It will be raining 3's at the Fetz unless we can defend the 3. And yes, we should be able to take both games. The game I am most worried about is Butler. Not only because it is at their place but because they have seen us and will make adjustments. The element of surprise is gone. Stevens knows "how good" we are
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I suspect our number of turnovers will be a fairly important number. Keep the turnovers to around 13-14 or less and i like our chances. It will be interesting to see how MM, KM, JJ and JB handle the press. I do not think this is a good game for GG. I don't want him handling the ball unless it's at the top of the key during our offensive sets. If he is forced to try and bring the ball up the court, we are in trouble. Although, GG could get a fair amount of gimme buckets.
I know a number of folks aren't impressed with VCU's press, but I am. I'm not sure we have seen one as good and as sustained as VCU's. Savannah St. gave us a pretty tough game for a while and Savannah St. is no VCU.
As always, routing like hell for the Bills, but this is the only game left that scares me.
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This was one of the 2 focus games( the other being next week's Butler game) I mentioned in the early Jan thread... A-10 preview. I think for most of the season I had this down as a win for VCU But now it looks like we have gelled as a team and we can take them.
This will not be an easy game...should be a back and forth nail biter .Here is what I think we need to do to win. Stop the 3....now there is a surprise. Dayton and Richmond are both better shooting 3pt teams than VCU. But what VCU lacks in accuracy they make up in volume. They take more shots than Day and Rich. As a comparison they shoot nearly twice as many 3's as Charlotte. So here are the magic numbers to win....keep them to 29% or less from the arc and just as important have 18 or less from 3pt range.
There is a fair chance that VCU will be ranked when we play them. If so, even better. The Fetz will be rocking. Let's take them.
Go Bills
Random thoughts after the Butler win
in Billikens.com Main Board
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Great win....been said many times but worth repeating
PD has the Bills as one of the banner headlines on its online front page....followed by a good story with all the appropriate accoladesI.... guess we have finally arrived..
Quote from Stevens about the Bills after the game last night...."That is a heck of a basketball team"....Where's Rudy? I tried to tell him.....Always listen to your coach...Stevens>Rudy
We are the lead story on ESPN's CBB page online.
Butler had a hot 1st half including 67% (4-6) from the 3. Then cooled off (reversion to the mean) in the 2nd half. Part of the cool down was because But doesn't have the depth to keep up with SLU. Someone like Glaze is great at "eating up innings"....plus he had one of his best games.
Can we practice foul shooting, please.?
I think our fans made a difference being there.
Butler may have a mini collapse. Their next game is @ VCU...VCU will be favored ...If But starts to feel pressure after losing 2 when they go to UMass (an even up game) and finish with X smelling blood in the water ...it could be a rocky finish for the Dawgs....a win over VCU and they will be fine.
I have us currently ranked as 20th...could change in a few hours... a lot of top 25 games tonight...a big one for us will be New Mex / Col St...A win by NM would be helpful. It would not only boost our numbers but CSU is #22, a team we could pass on the rankings. Unfortunately, I have CSU by 5 but it is a key conf game and NM has been playing well. Go Lobos.
And last but not least....we will be favored in all our remaining games including the A-10 tourney.
Go Bills