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...or in message board terms, you came to troll and ruin yet anothee positive thread on Billiken Athletics. (sigh)
...There are also articles this week on Taylor Twellman at Boston.com.....where he deflects all individual praise and accomplishments to the team...but does answer question about being left off WC team by saying it is the U.S.'s loss. Also sepeeate article on Noonan missing WC due to injuries.
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As usual good posts from Skip & Balls.
There was nice article this past week on Pat Noonan on how injuries forced him off World Cup team & how he is coming back for NE, if interested. Obviously Pat did not attend SLU.
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Facts have never gotten in the way of an Abomb post before, why would they start now.Ralston, Oakville FIU, Twellman SLUH Maryland, Noonan DeSmet IU, Davis Chaminade SLU. Wynn Haminade SLU.
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No offense, but it took me a long time to remember who you were.You are the one who doesn't believe in any sort of statistical analysis as part of a factor in evaluating a player.
Perhaps if read more closely, u would have comprehended more.But I think your reading comprehension has been well documented here. Slu hosting the Final Four made it possible to get a break as I and others said it might...that wacky ncaa committee...and they did give slu a break that they didn't get last yr. As someone posted, even the team was very surprised at their favorable seeding, as were all the posters on here.
What exactly more do u need? But your purpose as was before is to troll and come on board to troll as opposed to enjoy the good day for Billiken soccer. That says a lot about you.
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I know a lot of non-soccer people read some of the soccer threads. First let me say there was never a doubt as to SLU making this year's tournament. Not up for discussion. Where they played and whom they played was up for discussion.
11th seed. 16 teams are seeded in 64 bracket field consisting of 48 actual teams.
SLU came in to conference tourney as an 8-9 seed in NCAA, 1 seed in conference tourney...winning conference tourney would have given them a 6-7 seed and guaranteed home field til Final Four. But how much would losing conference tourney title game hurt? Well...it hurt a lot more last year. Why? SLU's results in non-conference games were better this year against better teams. Also, SLU is hosting the Final Four this year. People who don't think that comes into play are dreaming. SLU fell to an 11th seed, but no further than that. That means first round bye, round of 32 home game, ....on paper road game at West Virginia in round of 16, and on paper road game in quarterfinals in rematch with SMU. If West Virginia gets upset in 2nd round, SLU would host a round of 16 matchup. If SLU kept winning and made it to quarterfinals, ONLY SMU could host them. So, rooting against West Virginia and SMU would be in SLU's home field interest. Bottom line, a favorable overall draw for SLU.
Scouting the competition.
SLU begins at home 2nd round vs winner of Cincy, a familiar foe, and Northwestern, a familiar foe. SLU played neither team this season, but is familiar with both schools. On paper Cincy has had the better results this season, neither team a has a signature win. SLU will be favored to beat either of these two grinding teams.
If SLU wins at home, they are likely, likely to get West Virginia on road. Why is WV a 6th seed? They took care of reg season conference. Took care of business. Not overly impressive non-conference results, but they beat UCONN, ND etc...They lost to St, John's in conference tourney. upset. But they really didn't even tie anybody in conference, and Big East has rep as strong conference. Definitely a winnable game for SLU. But still rooting for either Va Tech or UNC Greensboro to upset WV.
SMU is 3 seed in entire tourney. They came in and beat SLU at SLU. I think SLU would like the rematch against a great team...but not on the road imo. I would rather see an upset and SLU getting UNC at home instead.
Bottom line: An opportunity for SLU, and hope for some luck in other games. I'd give SLU a 25% chance at making a big run to Final Four, primarily because I believe WV is beatable. However this is the same SLU team that has mental breakdowns on back line and has trouble finishing. So results will likely be in middle, bye, win, loss. But that is why they play the games.
SLU is generally speaking playing better ball lately.
I would expect a big crowd for the 2nd round game, as perhaps it may be their only home game. End results are solid draw, an opportunity....we shall see what they do with it.
But a good day for the Billikens.
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How tough is the ACC in men's soccer? A very strong UNC team was seeded 7th in their conference tourney. Wow. Joe Germanese leading Duke to conference tourney title. SLU women? Frankly I will not be impressed until they win a couple of games in NCAA tourney. They did nothing in non-conference, couldn't win their conference, and won the conference title at home. Good for them, but I would be surprised to see them with any home games either. The program has been around long enough now to start doing some nice things in NCAA tourney. Last year was a nice start for them.
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SLU loses 2-0 to Rhode Island in finals of A-10 conference tourney. Same result as last year. The differences, SLU tied for reg season conference crown last year. Thsi year they won it outright. And, the bigger difference, SLU has performed much better in non-conference play. This should enable SLU to get an NCAA invite. I would expect the team to get a first round road game without bye. I would be very surprised of any other scenario. But the NCAA is a funy strange organization.
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Barring major surprise, Rose is one and done.
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If only the Dome weould get a new scoreboard. Sorry had to take the shot while it was there. The dome itself, and its scoreboard is so outdated and poorly designed, I couldn't resist. Thought they were fixing their scoreboard too. Guess not.
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Memphis.
I know many on this board have followed Rose in HS.
Simeon's Rose headed to Memphis
By Brian Hamilton
Tribune staff reporter
November 4, 2006,
Despite all the histrionics and 11th-hour maneuvering, Derrick Rose will wind up where most everyone guessed he would: At Memphis.
The prized Simeon point guard announced at a news conference Saturday night that he plans to ink with the Tigers when the early signing period begins Wednesday. Rose, rivals.com's No. 3 player in the Class of 2007, picked Memphis over Indiana and Illinois.
Memphis had long been considered the favorite to land Rose, especially since it was thought to be the preference of his older brother, AAU coach and recruiting advisor Reggie.
The Roses made a late visit to Illinois last weekend, after theoretically eliminating the Illini from consideration over the summer. But neither that, nor Indianapolis guard Eric Gordon's commitment switch to Indiana, swayed Rose.
Rose's teammates, Kevin Johnson and Tim Flowers, both announced they have commited to Wisconsin-Milwaukee.
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I just happen to enjoy tht particular style of pizza. I had it often when living there. It became a favorite. I grew up in St. Louis on all the local haunts, and evenold chains...Pantera's anyone?...lol.
As I said, I won't turn down any pizza unless it has anchovies on it...and I don't prefer or like onions or black olives either...anything else goes.
In the area, I have enjoyed Dewey's...chain I know....Vito's, and just tried Caito's for first time.
Living in Chicago caused me to not enjoy deep dish and stuffed pizza. I do not understand the love affair with Lou Malnatti's, or Gino's or Uno...etc...I must be missing something...no thanks.
Just an opinion and preference. But as I said I can always eat pizza. I could even fire up a frozen one from time to time if had to...
I am hoping La Pizza is closer to what I am looking for.
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Really disappointed both times I had a Racanelli's, at different locations.
I have had East Coast pizza, was good, not great. And I just recently had Caito's for first time. I was with a group and we had the thin style. It was very good, but not NY style.
My definition of NY style...and I am by no means an expert or pizza snob. I love pizza, all kinds. I just get tired of St. Louis style(thin) and Chicago style(stuffed, deep dish, thin.)
To me NY style is oversized, moderation in sauce(tomato), and cheese(real cow milk mozzerella.), crust is hand tossed, doughy, soft, half inch, not too thick or thin, but gets crisp as you eat it, thin triangle slices, foldable in half, ...doesn't have to be an old coal oven, can be conventional oven but needs some sort of brick enhancement to that oven. Some people yap about the water to make it...don't care about that as much.
I lived in NYC and liked many dive places probably no longer around....but bigger named places....like John's pizzeria(origial in Village, also Theater location next to St. James Theater), Patty Grimaldi's in Brooklyn, or when in Boston, Pizzeria Regina. etc...
Again I am by no means an expert, just lookin for some good NYC style.
In the Lou, I eat at Vito's(he is a life long friend), The few mentioned seemed solid, not NY style but solid. I'll even eat an Imo's and that is fine. I enjoyed Dewey's in Kirkwood. Liking their salads helps too.
Haven't had Fortel's enough to know...but have a few friends who swear by it. Tried Rich and Charlies...okay. I do like St. Louis pizza much better than Chicgo pizza places(lived there too). and no don't like provel....sorry Faratto's.(sp?)
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Thank you kindly.
BTW Bonwich...random here and I hope the board will indulge me. I am looking for at least decent to good to great NYC style pizza in the Lou. A buddy suggesteed La Pizza on Delmar....never been there and will try soon. What do you think? And do you know of any other NYC style pizza places in the Lou? And please spare me pretenders if you can. Thanks. What about that place in Rock Hill, hmm begins with an "A"...haven't been there either. Thanks.
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SLU won 1-0 on goal by Kyle Hayes from Alex Matteson.
Conference tourney final is Sun Noon STL time vs winner of Richmond and Rhode Island. SLU did not play Richmond and they defeated Rhode Island last Sun at Rhode Island 3-1 to win reg season title.
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What years did each of their Dental schools close? Thanks much.
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The A-10 semifinal is 0-0 at half at moment for SLU.
Congrats to the following: (Though I am gasped, shocked at where Brian Grazier's name disappeared on this list. He is flat out better than anyone on the team except for DiRaimondo. Period)
http://slubillikens.cstv.com/sports/m-socc.../110106aab.html
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Obviously keep in mind that selection and seeding has a lot more to it than just NCAA RPI.
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This was my post on the other thread earlier.
SLU won the regular season A-10 men's soccer title with 3-1 win over Rhode Island.
Step one for SLU this year was to get better results in the tougher non-conference games. This they did with solid results. Good results, not great results. Good enough. Quality results against Indiana, UCONN, ND...not so much against Santa Clara, UIC, SMU.
Step two was to dominate a weaker A-10 conference and not settle for ties or road losses. SLU had zero losses and one tie in conference. Getting several tight road wins makes a huge difference, and those results frankly were expected against the lesser competition.
Step three is to win the conference tournament to gain 1-2 home games in post-season. If SLU fails to win the conference tournament they will not receive any post-season home games, period. However, their results to this point should make them a lock for an NCAA invite. As of right now they would open up on the road. Winning the conference tourney should get them at least one home game in NCAA, and if they are lucky, two home games. Then it will be on the road against top quality opponents to try to advance further in the tournament. Wouldn't shock me one bit if SLU won conference tourney and received only one home game and possibly none. Likely I see them getting one and an outside shot of two with conf tourney title.
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SLU won the regular season A-10 men's soccer title with 3-1 win over Rhode Island.
Step one for SLU this year was to get better results in the tougher non-conference games. This they did with solid results. Good results, not great results. Good enough. Quality results against Indiana, UCONN, ND...not so much against Santa Clara, UIC, SMU.
Step two was to dominate a weaker A-10 conference and not settle for ties or road losses. SLU had zero losses and one tie in conference. Getting several tight road wins makes a huge difference, and those results frankly were expected against the lesser competition.
Step three is to win the conference tournament to gain 1-2 home games in post-season. If SLU fails to win the conference tournament they will not receive any post-season home games, period. However, their results to this point should make them a lock for an NCAA invite. As of right now they would open up on the road. Winning the conference tourney should get them at least one home game in NCAA, and if they are lucky, two home games. Then it will be on the road against top quality opponents to try to advance further in the tournament. Wouldn't shock me one bit if SLU won conference tourney and received only one home game and possibly none. Likely I see them getting one and an outside shot of two with conf tourney title.
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Any win on the road in college soccer is a good one. Adidas has SLU 9th this week next best ranking I saw was 19th in a couple.
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Aranda had leg injury for much of first half of season.He has played in some games, but as a Frosh falling behind 8 ball with injury, tough to get into the mix.also take into consideration the large transition from hs to college ball..I expect him to compete for starting position nezt year as long as healthy.He'll be fine. At the moment John DiRaimondo has missed past several games due to injury which has been a concern.
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Also...Timmy Leonard played a while in the United Soccer League in Rochester...Nick Walls formerly a dev player for Chicago Fire...and currently Joe Hammes is currently playing inddor/outdoor for Milwaukee Wave(indoor) and Wave United(outdoor)for years.
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This week SLU men's rankings of week ending Oct 15
9th in RPI
25 in Massey
18 Soccer Times
23 College Soccer News
19 Jones Reed
12 in Adidas poll.
Tie with Xavier hurt...not getting game winner allowed. Puts more pressure on the road games.
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SLU isn't getting 3 home games. They will have to win on road to make a final four. Anything is possible. But SLU isn't as good as most teams I have seen play in top 10.
If SLU doesn't win conference, and doesn't win conference tourney...no invite.
If SLU wins conference but no conference tourney...probable invite this time depending on how they finish. But NOT guaranteed.
If SLU wins both, they could get a home game, but imo unlikely two home games...possible...not likely....and certainly not 3.
I am all for them doing well, but realisitically talent-wise, they are a one or two and done. But as I said anything can happen.
They need to run table in conference and win conference tourney and they could get two home games. Wouldn't shock me if they did that and didn't get even one home game.
here is the entire article in the post today
in Billikens.com Main Board
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I agree on IV not playing if injured, even if reg season game.If u r injured and can't play, u don't.
Recruiting and article space?
This isn't Albuquerque New Mexico.It is a pro sports town.Personally I prefer college sports, but St. Louis is a pro sports town.So with that said, win consistently at high level against top quality teams people know,&coverage will be there for SLU. There certainly is an opportunity, but no big names on recruiting front, & possibly first good season in long time, possibly.Why would one believe there would be more coverage? Beat a UNC or some other high level program...and win consistently & coverage will be there.