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  1. I will tell you at the game. Not a whole lot new. Coach Harry was there with Conk and Kyle. On next years schedule New Mexico will be here maybe on New Years Eve. Butler is very likely for a home ans away. Loyala M is here.All three said Manning is really good. Just needs to learn the system Glaze is getting better evert practice,just had his best week. Coach Harry does most of the substitutions .next years recruits sound great. The kid from Chicago had been named MVP of all 3 tournaments his team has played in. The Indy kid has a 6-11 wingspan. That's all I remember

  2. Rereading this thread is such a treat for several reasons. I didn't remember that we had bounced back and forth between Kiel and the Arena that many times. I was a wet behind the ears frosh in '67 and a midcourt seat two rows from the floor was a real treat. Coming from a small town in Ky. to the place where the Hawks played the Celtics was a pleasurable culture shock. I regret not seeing a pro BB game before the Hawks moved.

    As I recall our starting lineup was C Rich Niemann, F Joe Wiley, F Gene Moore, G Barry Orms and G Tom Thomas. Coach was Buddy Brehmer. Niemann (Celtics) and Orms (Bullets) later had cups of coffee in the NBA. Gene Moore was a very good forward with the ABA Kentucky Colonels. Maybe our record should have been better in 67-68 with 3 future pros on the team.

    First Bills opponent who impressed me was Warren Armstrong (later Warren Jabali) forward for Wichita St. Not that tall, maybe 6'4, but he could jump and shoot over taller guys and he had muscles that wouldn't quit. Best player on the frosh team that year was Jimmy Irving. I am one of the several on this board whose memory is fading. Bonwich- help- was Harry Rogers in that class as well ? Can we regular Joes obtain a press/history guide ?

    Harry I believe was one year behind Irving. Maybe 2.
  3. I went to South Bend for the 79-80 game where in we got trashed. I had graduated in May 79. I don't think there is anything more than a feeling to this statement but I think Notre Dame treats the lesser college Catholic brethern as second class citizens, much like Mizzou disses other Mssouri schools, much like Kentucky disses louisville, or any other state public/private rivalry. And for the very same reasons .... to them, we are just another ho-hum game, but to us, they are the grail. Kill at all costs. In the great conference hokey-pokey in football, ND is talking ACC ... as in ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE. In my mind, they are all BIG TEN. But I believe they believe there are far more patsies to play in the ACC then the BIG ten, expecially if VaTech, Miami and Florida State bolt. Notre Dame look sout fo rNotre dame.

    There is absolutley no benefit TO THEM to play us. Just like Mizzou. Seem sliek a natural, a no-brainer. But so doe sus playing Marquette, Boston College, Georgetown, DePaul, Bradley, Dayon and Xavier. At least to me.

    I think the obvious reason we no longer play ND is they joined a confrence. They no longer need to fill a bunch of dates.
  4. I got out of SLU just a few years before you, and I don't remember any Mao's, nor can I find any reference to it in the P-D. Golden Dynasty had opened in 1991 and had been preceded in the space by First Federal Frank & Crust. (I could swear that space was also called Brooklyn Bridge or something like that, but I can't find any reference to that, either.)

    The sleazy motel, by the way, was a TraveLodge in the mid-'60s. SLU put us up there when my old man came in for his original interview.

    The great Jeannie Trevor use to play in their lounge back in the day.
  5. If everything in the college basketball landscape was equal I would say paying players is a terrible idea. But things aren't equal. Big time schools already pay their players. If the NCAA implemented a system to pay the players, even if it was a lump sum at the end of their careers, the playing field would even out. This would have to be a very strict system with large punishment if a school gave any player benefits greater than the allowed amount, but it could work.

    Back in my day,the late 60's plays received book and laundry money. I believe it was 50 per month. I think that would be a good idea. Make it 200 today. Give the players a little beer and pizza money. Might clean up some of the cheating.
  6. you know that he wasnt responsible for tuition and was definitely on a basketball scholarship and not some sort of student grant when he was reinstated?

    i say that because i do not recall reading anywhere he had his basketball scholarship back. i do recall reading he was not reinstated to the basketball team.

    which i then assumed he didnt have a basketball scholarship back yet at that point and had to re-enroll as a student at large and had to make his own tuition arrangements made via loans, grants or cash out of pocket or a combination thereof.

    I would be shocked if the athletic department did not pay his tuition.
  7. I try to avoid these type of discussions because they have trolls like anklebreakers just lying about things and then people debate the lies. Willie got a fair shake and a full second chance after he did a lot of things that were questionable. The school has always taken the high road. To suggest that Willie was not offered and given tutoring help is absolutely ridiculous. We have great academic support folks and if the players cooperate and participate they will get a lot of help.

    If you know that he was getting help this semester I will shut up. I sked that question earlier and did not get an answer.
  8. i think where we differ is "allowed back". you think just being readmitted to saint louis university = being reinstated to the basketball team. he never was accepted back to the basketball team. the basketball team is where he would have gotten his perks.

    He was allowed back because he was a basketball player. He was not paying his own tuition.
  9. Theft, academic dishonesty, etc, etc...

    If a mod wants to delete this, that's fine, I completely understand. But Ive gotten tired of all the people who defend all the bull**** Willie did in his time here when they really don't know what happened.

    Someone sent me a pm with a long list. I must admitt it is a long list. But I still say if you allowed him back he should have been given a tutor.
  10. How long are we going to protect WR? He did NOT leave the program b/c of The Situation. While the Situation did not help, KM is proof that WR is not gone b/c of The Situation alone. If we are going to allow unfounded shots at SLU (from the administration to the faculty to the coaches), then why not remove the gag orders of this Board and let us post all that WR actually did to get into the mess he created for himself. Who are we protecting? WR is no longer a student, player... I, for one, am not subject to SLU's Code of Conduct and not under the federal student privacy laws keeping SLU from responding and/or releasing what Paul Harvey would say "the rest of the story."

    So what is the story?
  11. willie, let's back up. as an employee/employer relationship which you want to turn this into, how many employer's would have not fired permanently their employee that committed all the non "incident" acts he did while an employee?

    second, dont forget that willie was never reinstated to the basketball team that would have afforded him the tutors and scheduling and study support. for that, he can only blame himself. quite honestly i cannot think of a an honest program that would have turned their heads for willie's entire body of work prior to the incident. he should have been expelled at minimum after his summer incidents with no return imo.

    Everybody talks about his body of work. What was his body of work? I would like to know what those crimes were. Students do stupit ######. If I hire a good salesman and he,s good at sales but screws up in his personal life I need to help him get through his problem. Give him help to succeed not probation. Unless someone tells me elsewise we gave him probation without help.
  12. Willie is lazy. Period. We heard that his freshman year on the basketball court, and later about his academic issues.

    If he were 5'8", he would already be warming up burgers at McDonalds in KC.

    Basketball players have tons of advantages over regular students. They have their own tutors, preference in scheduling(all athletes), their own private study areas, and if I am not mistaken traveling tutors/teachers.

    And seriously, it isn't like he was taking organic chemistry or in the BME program.

    The only person Willie Reed has to blame is himself.

    Did he have tutors and scheduling support this semester??
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