Duff Man
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http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/52701/the-hardcourt-shuffle-the-weekends-top-10-games
"An interesting note here is that if Butler manages to win, it pretty much guarantees an A-10 regular season title for St. Louis. I only bring that up because if you're looking to get in on a mid-major sleeper that might be one of the five best teams in the country, the Billikens are it"
Shane Ryan was in on the ground floor, hyping SLU even after it became known that Majerus was out and after Kwamain broke his foot
The 2012 part of their schedule isn't as scary as it could be, so they should be able to thrive even before Mitchell returns. They'll win the A-10, make the Sweet 16 as a 3-seed, and be total hell on a BCS 2.
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There is a very precise order of operations being followed to ensure no single entity is able to hold the entire process hostage.
The C7 wants to get Butler and X nailed down, because once it has that, it can finalize a preliminary deal with Fox, hire a commissioner and get the ball rolling, then proceed with the next round of negotiations.
Bottom line: if the C7 intended to have 12 teams next year, they would not be wise come out and say it.
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Well done by all involved to get it up over 10k.
It looked bad when 209 and 210 were more than half empty shortly before tip-off - especially considering none of those tickets (i.e. the affordable tickets) were for sale to the public at any point in the last 2 days - but I guess it makes sense to put the newly admitted student comps in those sections - and it certainly is understandable that those folks (i.e. the noobs with free tickets) would be late arrivals, especially given the crap weather.
In the first 4 years of Chaifetz there were only 4 games with attendance >10k, and all 4 came against the rivals from southwest Ohio (Dayton 2009, Xavier 2010, Dayton 2012, Xavier 2012). This season they've had 4 games >10k (none of which came against Dayton or Xavier), and there's a good chance they'll make it 5 against La Salle.
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A nuanced on-point take on the Crews situation from Gary Parrish
So many of the local radio hacks are completely out of touch on this issue, constantly asking "Why hasn't SLU made him the permanent coach yet?!?! ZOMG! They are screwed on recruiting until he gets the permanent job...blah...blah...blah"
Rammer's co-host Zack McCrite is especially bad on this issue, but he's hardly the only one.
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where did you see that? The ticket finder when I pulled it up for the most part only showed a few single seats plus maybe 100 or so $40 tickets.
Comparing my count 7am this morning and 10:30pm tonight...
7am: 403 total tickets for sale
10:30pm: 139 total tickets for sale
There were clearly tickets released at some point today (at least 67). Here are the sections with notable changes.
110: -18
203: -28
204: -86
205: -21
211: +50 (the unused St Joes allocation)
214: -71
215: -67
221: +10
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There is software overhead in providing print-at-home ticket options. The service fees cover that overhead. You're not getting rid of those.
There would be overhead in a dynamic pricing system (even if it's an internal employee manually adjusting prices on the fly), and maybe 16-18 games per year in a 10.6k venue (roughly half of which is pre-sold) isn't enough volume to make it worthwhile (whereas the Cardinals have 81 games and 46k).
They don't necessarily need to go with some super advanced algorithm that the Cardinals or airlines use, but they could be taking more progressive steps to ensure the building is (close to) full.
2012-13 average attendance
OOC: 6.191
A10: 9,566
Maybe just rank games on a scale of 1 to 5 (weeknight buy game opponents are 1s, games against rivals/ranked opponents are 5s), with prices fluctuating as games get reclassified (i.e, St Joes might have been a 4 initially but are now a 3) and have across the board pricing adjustments at each tier.
Bottom line: Make as much money as possible on the marquee games, and draw as many fans as possible to every other game
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okay...I'm going to take a step back and retract my previous sentiment
As bad as that looks, I just went through and counted every non-student seat for sale as of 7:00am this morning (fairly easy using a spreadsheet and counting the empty seats in the mostly full rows and subtracting from 20 or whatever), and only came up with 402. So while those $40 tickets* may prevent the game from selling out, they are still in a position to maintain their 9,566 A10 average for the season, and they might still be able to hit 10k* - which is close enough to a sellout.
<9k = PR disaster
9.5k = acceptable
10k = success
*300 tickets of the 402 are in those 4 $40 200 level sections (203, 204, 214, 215).
**I have no idea the student section/luxury box breakdown in relation to the 10,600 capacity
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The Cardinals sell over 3mm tickets a year and the average price is not cheap by any stretch.
The Cardinals use dynamic pricing to ensure as many seats are filled for as many games as possible.
^This^ is a problem. Lots of people are looking to see how many fans show up for this game. There will be negative publicity if we don't come close to selling out.
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From today's radio broadcast
"You could have Jordair Jett run the offense, you could have Kwamain Mitchell run the offense...you could have Oliver McCall Jr out there..."
Bernie has been spending too much time with Gus Phelps.
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2 things...
1) The 200 level seats currently $32 should be $20, and the 200 level seats currently $40 should be $32
It's just ridiculous that the last row in 203 is priced same price as the unused player allocation that get released in 105.
2) The $6.50 service fee on those $40 tickets purchased online
$12 seats have a $4.50 (37.5%!!!!) service fee (which is bad enough, but still you can do a family of 4 for $66)
$20 seats have the same $4.50 (22.5%) service fee
$32 seats have a $4.75 (14.8%) service fee
$40 seats have a $6.50 (16.25%) service fee
So aside from those who are willing to drive down to midtown during Box Office hours, the prices are
$16.50
$24.50
$36.75
$46.50
I'm sure there are a lot of dads willing to bring their 2 kids to the game for $75 (figuring you can keep it around $100 even after parking and snacks), but not $110 or $140 before incidentals.
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-what is our record in the first game after becoming ranked? any way to research that? can't be that many happenings
going strictly by the AP Poll (which has readily available documented history)
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/saint-louis/1994-schedule.html
In 1994*, SLU cracked the AP top 25 on 1/17 when they were ranked #23, they lost their next game @Marquette*, but were still ranked #23 the next week with Marquette jumping to 22. They beat Marquette in STL the following week and remained in the top 25 the rest of the year.
That was the only season between 1965-2010 that SLU was ranked, thus for the Modern Era, SLU is 0-2 in firsts game after cracking the AP top 25.
*I want to say SLU checked in at #25 in the coaches poll in 1994 1 week before they cracked the AP top 25, but that was 19 years ago and I could be remembering incorrectly
**a Marquette team that upset Kentucky in the 2nd round to get to the sweet 16
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What a game today. Kendall Williams goes 10-for-10 from three and puts up 40 points for the 'Bos. NM comes back to win. Good win for Bills RPI purposes and the loss by #22 Colorado State bodes well for our ranking next week.
I believe he was 10-13 from 3. Still a performance for the ages.
and just think some clown on Deadspin called New Mexico the least watchable team in D1 yesterday...
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http://101sports.com/category/zach-and-rammer
Dan Dakich is at it again. First he get Brad Stevens to call SLU a final 4 team on his own show.
Now on Rammer's radio show, Dakich calls the Rammer/ref incident one of the top 5 moments of his life, alongside the birth of his children and Keith Smart hitting the shot to win the national championship.
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Norlander and Gottlieb discuss SLU/Butler 20 minutes into the Eye on College Basketball podcast (Stevens' Final 4 comment is referenced)
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Danny Manning would be an intriguing option down the road - hypothetically if Crews/alternative doesn't work out - but this is his first year at Tulsa. Let him at least show he can coach/recruit.
Granted, Danny Manning's track record of developing unheralded big men (not unlike Majerus) is exactly the type of skill a program like SLU should be looking for.
As for Crews, I wouldn't be devastated if they retained him, but the real unknown is recruiting and in the end recruiting trumps everything else.
1) Recruiting
2) Ability to develop players
3) Gameplan preparation
4) In-game adjustments
5) Media skills
How are May/Chaifetz going to evaluate Crews recruiting? It's nice that Crews got Crawford, but I think they would have to have some kind of idea of what Crews can deliver in the Spring and the Fall if/when he's named the permanent coach.
There's a lot of moving parts on this, and there's a reason May and Crews have shelved any talk of the future until the season is over.
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This game would move us to lock status regardless of the outcome of the remaining games (provided not an 0fer). I think we could even be an early exit from the tourney.
This team could vault itself into the 4-6 seed range with a strong finish and a decent showing in the A10 tourney. And that, my friends, is the path to the Elite 8 and Final Four.
A 4-6 seed would ease the path to the Sweet 16, but the path to the Final 4 is going to be pretty much the same longshot regardless of seed. Most likely we will need to win 2 games against dangerous teams and 2 games against Elite teams. The only difference is that we avoid playing an Elite team in the first 2 rounds.
Butler made the Final 4 as a 5-seed in 2010 and an 8-seed in 2011. In 2011 they had to beat #1 seed Pitt just to get to the Sweet 16.
Sure sometimes you luck out and someone else beats the best team for you, but honestly I WANT SLU to be the team that pulls the shocking upset over the 1-seed (preferably in the 2nd weekend)
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No thanks. We can do better. Had fun whoopin you this year though.
seriously, New Mexico is by far the best non-conference team that has agreed to play SLU at Chaifetz in recent years (obviously they have a similar dilemma trying to get teams to play in the Pit). Washington is the only other team that even comes close, and they had a local connection.
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23 wins and we're 50/50. 24 wins 75/25. 25 wins we're a lock. With 5 games left and the tourament anything less than 4 more wins will be disapointing.
24-6 and we're a lock.
23-7 regular season (12-4 A10, 40ish RPI) will almost surely get us in. We'd have an additional quality win (either @Butler, @X, or vs La Salle) and can't really pick up any bad losses (if you want to call losing on the road to GW a bad loss, that's fine, but in order to get to 23 wins we'd have to win 2 of 3 between @Butler, @X, and vs La Salle).
Honestly at this point the only way we miss the dance is if we lose every remaining road game, and sh1t the bed in Brooklyn.
Stop worrying about seeds and bubbles, and focus on maintaining first place in the A10.
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Seems like a long Tweet.
that was my anti-Palm rant, I just mentioned the McKernan radio Metz plug as an aside
You can listen to the McKernan audio here (segment 4, 4:00 mark)
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So essentially Palm is saying that SLU has to win @ Butler to be a lock?
Just think how stupid you would sound trying to discuss college basketball if you never watched a game and merely relied on a simple rating system that treats a 1 point double OT win the same as a 30 point win.
Last year around this time Palm was saying SLU (RPI 22 a year ago today) was on the bubble because didn't have any impressive wins.
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McKernan actually read an angry anti-Palm tweet from 'Bobby Metzinger' on the air this morning.
re: Palm
He is a special one. If you plotted human intelligence on one axis and nerd factor on the other axis, Jerry Palm would be in the extreme corner of idiot nerds.
All he does is worship RPI, and ignores everything else. He doesn't have any analytical basketball expertise, and doesn't even attempt to understand computer rankings. He just looks at RPI, impressive road/neutral wins (according to RPI), losses outside of the top 100, etc... He doesn't factor in anything else.
The argument is that the committee bases everything on RPI, so Palm's methods are sound. If that were true, Palm wouldn't be so mediocre compared to the elite bracketologists.
Bottom line: The guy is an idiot (listen to this podcast at your own risk) who has made an entire career out of doing months and months of analysis on a flawed and and limited data set, and CBS trots him out there as this lighting rod for Internet angst. Basically he's a troll, but doesn't realize it.
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I thought about it and I suspect a local media sh1t stirrer (JoeSportsFan, the RFT) would run with a story about Guy Phillips repeatedly getting star players names wrong if there was clear cut documented evidence of Guy's PA malpractice.
I'm not suggesting anyone take their attention away from the actual game, but if someone were to capture (even if just audio) all of the Dwight announcements, plus anything else that's egregious, and post it to this thread, it might get some traction....
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This coming from a man who deviously sneak defended Guy Phillips on about 4-5 posts on that recent thread.
Clearly he listens to Y98 every morning on the radio of his Japanese car...
And you are as gullible as a Visitation sophmore [spelling], 6 blocks was not to be taken literally. Think.I feast at Pappy's sometimes then walk, that is a long walk, have parked at that concrete parking lot at Compton and Olive, or sometimes on the west side, there it can be 6 blocks, it depends. [Run on sentence. Consider rephrasing] Not optimal parking was the point. When the lot across the street is available, someitmes [spelling] I park there.
Out of my entire thread you jump on the 6 block figure. Just so you know, I needed a quick drink of bottled water while I wrote it. I was thirsty. [WTF?!?]
Get a grip on yourself, sure, you make an ass of yourself on the Guy Phillips thread, but you can recover. Maybe have someone edit and proof read your posts before submitting.
Don't Look Now, Here Comes Temple
in Billikens.com Main Board
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Butler is in danger of slipping to 6th in the A10 tournament seeding, and really needs to win @UMass on Wednesday to avoid that scenario.
It's looking increasingly like it will be UMass vs Temple in the 4/5 game.
Butler (9-5) plays @UMass and vs Xavier
Temple (9-5) plays @Fordham and vs VCU
UMass (8-6) plays vs Butler and @Rhode Island
Butler beat Temple. Temple beat UMass.
If UMass beats Butler, then if both teams win their final games to finish 10-6, and Temple wins out to finish 11-5, UMass is the 5-seed via the head to head tiebreaker with Butler getting the 6-seed.
If UMass beats Butler and all 3 teams finish 10-6, the tiebreaker is conference record of the tied teams based on winning percentage versus the highest common opponent and proceeding down to the lowest common opponent, if necessary, until one team gains an advantage. In case of tied percentages vs. the team or group of 1.000 or .000, the following shall apply: 2-0 is better than 1-0; 0-1 is better than 0-2.
Temple is 1-0 vs SLU (4-seed)
UMass is 0-1 vs SLU (5-seed)
Butler is 0-2 vs SLU (6-seed)