cheesycow
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2 hours ago, HoosierPal said:
This was on the radio. So what's up with tossing smart players under the bus?
It's not a unique situation to Mizzou, as APR affects all teams and their transfers the same way. The reason it's such a big issue now though is because of how much exodus their was when KA was hired. Those transfers put mizzou in a more precarious spot APR wise.
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9 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said:
Kind of like Tigerboard. Literally. That place is from 1990.
I don't take this personally.
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I love billikens.com. I get older and it stays the same.
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And why was Chicago able to do so? Because the St. Louis city government refused to grant permits necessary for building railroad bridges across the Mississippi River at the city's location. St Louis city officials wanted to protect the riverboat industry. So the railroad companies settled for Chicago, and the rest is history. St Louis officials were clueless 150 years ago, and they are clueless now.
There's a reason for the countless blunders in this city's history such as failing to build up the river front, Pruitt Igoe, losing our status as a national airline hub, losing two football franchises, etc. I could probably dig up many, many more. St. Louis has a long, storied tradition of incompetent civic officials.
I feel like you're making that up? St. Louis ponied for the Eads while Chicago lawmakers attempted to block the plan.
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You're probably correct. I guess my feeling is probably based on my own perceptions of cities I've never been to or heard much about based on how many teams they have.
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Make a new stadium in the St. Louis suburbs so the fan base that has the money to actually go to the games can do so without fear of being robbed. May seem silly to some but people from this area are paranoid
Yeah. It's so crazy that they still attempt to have Cardinals, Blues, and Billikens games in such a rough area.
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I'm not an economist so I can't truly say this for sure but it was my experience in living downtown that the Dome anchored a lot of development downtown, which has in turn indirectly led to a small but vibrant startup boom in and around Washington Ave. I'm not saying that losing the Rams would be catastrophic to those efforts, but I can't imagine it would help.
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It's just amazing how much the cost has risen in the last 10 years. Tuition for me at Mizzou was around 5k as an Missouri resident. It's now doubled. I seem to recall SLU being closer to 20k? I'm a little fuzzier but that's roughly doubled as well. Has the value of an undergraduate degree doubled? I really don't think it has.
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Ohio does offer the in state kid a lot of good state school options for sure. Miami, Ohio, OSU. Missouri not so much.
A terrible load of bull, and with 38k a year representing "value" I wouldn't be surprised if there are plenty of SLU alumni who are perfectly happy when their children elect to go to some of the fine public institutions in the state of Missouri. Most of my peers (who went to both private and state schools) are just now, almost a decade out of college, making more than that a year.
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Obviously I'll never be a Quin Snyder fan, but it's hard to denigrate the path he had to take to this point. He was pounded by fans and media alike on his way out from Mizzou, took his lumps in the NBDL, Europe, and as an assistant and is highly regarded by people like Popovich now. Perhaps the pro game was always better suited for Quin. College certainly wasn't.
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Salina. Saturday. 10 a.m. Paystubs.
Box and Won
Bachelor of Arts, Communication
My bad, dog.
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CheesyCow,
An honest question: when you finish posting in a thread like this and you get up and walk away from your computer, do you feel better? Is it a meaningful experience to sit here and defend your school (which I think you often make good points) on another team's message board.
I'm just not sure what you gain out of posting about this stuff on here. I have to think it's more painful than anything.
I like debate. This isn't the only board I go to but in general I like most of the people on here, especially the ones I've had the pleasure of meeting in person. Just because we disagree on lots of things (most notably SLU v Mizzou) doesn't mean I don't enjoy the back and forth. I also enjoy reading what other people have to say.
Suffice it to say my day isn't predicated on winning arguments on here but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy the act of doing it. Same reason people respond to me I'd guess.
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Missouri / SLU is not and apples to apples comparison.
Missouri allows players in school that would not last one semester at SLU, it is a big buck state school with tons of money, in a BCS power conference that gets superior TV exposure, 25,000 students each year with nothing much else to do so they have a great fan base before and after graduation, they flood the market with journalism grads who for years promoted Missouri hoops while ridiculing SLU.
AND Missouri has avoided SLU for decades, a bunch of p*ssies; the logic being they do not want to acknowledge out existence, if they win they are supposed to win since they have all the money and low academic athletes, if they lose they lose. Go ahead, deny it.
So go away and stay away.
How many communication majors on SLU's bball team?
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So you're telling me SLU and Mizzou's reputations are about to go up? Nice.
Strauss sucks and everyone knows it. Biggest prick in the city
He's a troll but it's good to be trolled by him. The fact that he talks about SLU at all speaks to the increase in recognition the program receives now.
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The program was actually in a better spot at the end of the Quinn era than it is today.
You don't honestly believe that, do you?
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Get real. MU and its media apologists are foaming, practically begging, to play Kansas. Bill Self has commented re the issue himself. It is not happening anytime soon in Hoops or Football, and won't happen in Hoops, as Self said, until it benefits Kansas.
MU's move to the SEC threw away over 100 years of Mizzou athletics tradition, as well as the very history of its own state. Longtime rivalries with Kansas, K-State, and Iowa State were shelved, as were the rivalries with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Although Mizzou apologists claim Big XII instability, as noted by others, there is an argument that Mizzou at least in part created that instability. No less than Dr. Tom Osborne at Nebraska has been quoted re Mizzou. What Mizzou really coveted was Big Ten membership, not SEC membership. That would have made much more sense given that Missouri is a Midwestern, not a Southern state. But alas, the Big Ten picked longtime MU rival Nebraska, not Mizzou.
We're no more "begging" kansas than SLU fans are "begging" Mizzou.
Oh, and by the way, PLAY US A FRIGGIN HOME AND HOME!
MU's move to the SEC has brought so much money and relevance to the athletic department as a whole. We get as much money as Alabama and LSU from day one, not begging for Texas' scraps. Texas created the instability by assuming they owned the other 11 schools. The instability existed long before B1G expansion, that just exacerbated it.
Leave it to you to try to talk smack on Mizzou "settling" for the SEC. SLU is in the unenviable position of hoping to hear from a shattered Big East and I should be ashamed that my school joined the most powerful athletic conference in the country?
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You are amazing, always wrong, like the kid in the Woody Allen movie in the classroom scene. Woody'd slap the top of his own head every time the kid said something.
SO please tell me if you invest in a certain stock or bond or real estate, I will load up in the other direction. You were all over Lehman Brothers I would guess.
I just bought 3 Billiken T shirts on sale, free shipping, used a new fangled debit card.
I think my autobiography might be entitled "I can tell most things but find MB73's incoherent rambling to be incomprehensible."
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It's Mizzou and you Mizzou apologists' delusions of grandeur. This thread is not about Duke.
You lost to Norfolk State of the MEAC.
Period.
You also greatly damaged your Basketball Program by leaving the much stronger Big XII for the much weaker SEC, a league that garnered only 3 NCAA Tournament teams from a 14 team league, a very poor showing. You abandoned your longstanding conference partners of over a century, and are now pleading, begging to play Kansas. Why should Kansas play MU? What does Kansas Hoops have to gain? Nothing. Kansas leads that all-time series 172-95.
If Bill Self really wanted to stick it to MU, he would schedule SLU home and home ...
It is truly astounding the warped opinion you Mizzou apologists have of your program. It has been a mess for a long time, an embarrassing mess.
This being said, the hire of Kim Anderson was a start in the right direction. He should have been hired long ago, and clearly was the best available choice this time. He may well be the coach to put the Missouri back into Mizzou.
It's astounding how warped your opinion is. You're describing Mizzou basketball like it's still in the end of the Quin era. It's not anymore.
Leaving the Big 12 had nothing to do with Basketball, no one is "begging" to play kansas, and overall the move continues to prove to be a wildly successful one. Sure Mizzou fans would love to play Kansas in both football and basketball but we're not exactly crying over it. I know that for SLU the college sports landscape begins and ends with basketball but for most schools it begins and ends with football.
I know you hate Mizzou. I get it. Pretending we're in way worse shape than we are is what's ridiculous. We're one year removed from a run of 5 straight tournament appearances. That's embarassing?
kansas and SLU playing a home and home wouldn't stick it to Mizzou, by the way.
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Matt, he had one good year when he was hired, up until that first game in the tournament. No one can take hat away from him. But trying to spin the last 2+ years as any kind of success is just impossible to take seriously. I know you can do better.
The fact that you guys see that as an abject failure when we had losing seasons within the last 10 years is a success in and of itself. I don't expect you guys to not twist my words (nowhere did I say that we were on par with Duke, just that upsets happen to everybody), but I do expect you guys to use a modicum of sensibility when trying to disparage your "rivals."
SLU is on top right now, and deservedly so, but if the bills win 23 games this year and just narrowly miss out on the tournament I don't think anybody would say to themselves "This program is in a disaster state right now."
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How many NCAA wins? The bolded part is irrelevant.
Sure that's why I said he wasn't amazing, but most schools would love to win 75% of their games.
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2 Words- Norfolk State.
And that was as a 2 Seed, an ignominious loss of historical proportion.
Duke lost to a 15 that year too. Program is a disgrace, obviously.
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And Haith couldn't even win with his own "talented" recuits...
I know Haith wasn't amazing and missing the tournament sucked but did everyone here suddenly start thinking that winning just shy of 75% of your games is terrible suddenly?
Mizzou really has come a long way from the Quin Era if that's the best you can do.
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Im not so sure. SLU just graduated 5 seniors, 3 of them 4 year starters, extremely young and leery of playing either McBroom or a freshman at pg among other issues. Mizzou returns 2 starters along with a recruiting class that includes two top 75 players, and a 5th year transfer that led his conference in assists. Mizzou has issues and question marks as well, but why is SLU in so much better shape?
I think you can certainly point to what happened with Price, as well as just the nature of an unknown at HC. I think this year it's anyone guess who will have a better season but I don't look at Mizzou's roster and say "they're in good shape." Building blocks are there for sure especially with Gant and Wright staying on but so many question marks.
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As she uses the debit card for yet another purchase, MB's wife is probably thankful that he still thinks people use checks.
or MB73 was an executive at a fortune 500 company in 1951.
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I moved to New York for about 5 years and got super out of touch with college basketball altogether. Back in STL these days.