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  1. 9 hours ago, White Pelican said:

    I was at the game and I seem to recall that neither clock started at the tip. And there were more problems with the clock later.

    The following is just my wild ass guess and if someone has more information I would love to hear it.

    The game clock (not sure about the mechanics of the shot clock since someone has to reset it during play if a shot hits the rim) is controlled by the referees' whistles and the start buttons on the transmitters on their belts. After watching what went on tonight, I suspect that the radio receiver for the clock was malfunctioning at the table. I think at some point they made a decision to let the people at the scorer's table run the clock manually. It appeared that the refs were no longer reaching behind their backs to start the clock on inbounds. And there was a play where (I think) Mike Crawford kicked the ball while on defense. The ref blew his whistle but both clocks ran for 3 seconds and were never corrected. I believe the timekeeper at the table briefly forgot he/she had to turn it off.

    As I said, this was just a wild ass guess. And since I'm a mere paying customer who got his ass to the game, not someone sitting at home watching on TV, I don't get the courtesy of an explanation by ANY-FUOKING-BODY. This has bugged me for a long time. They always make a point of letting the TV audience know what's going on, not the schlub in his seat who has to sit through this crap.

    For the ten-minute clusterfork in the first half, one of the refs noticed that the clock was malfunctioning and blew the whistle almost exactly the same time that Welmer, I think, took a shot that missed. So technically no one had possession at the time of the dead ball, and ultimately -- after giving it back to us with 15 on the shot clock, and then 4 on the shot clock -- they made what I think is actually the correct call and gave it to the team that had the arrow.

    Since we had the first string (sic) announcer last night, I think he was at the disadvantage of the local tradition of leaving everyone in the 'fetz to wonder WTF is going on.

     

  2. 8 hours ago, Glorydays2013 said:

    If people were confused by my previous post, the MLS stadium near slu was not really considered because it wasn't considered "downtown enough". With the huge new projects around that area being built I was wondering if they gave it another shot looking to the future 

    Regardless of the amount of development near SLU, it will never be "downtown." (Except, of course, to a certain segment of the population that lives past 270 and only goes to the real downtown for professional sports, fireworks or Ballpark Village.)

  3. 48 minutes ago, HoosierBilliken said:

    It's an understatement that Ford did extremely well coaching towards the end of the game.

    I see nothing in the during-the-game thread pointing out that he had Crawford intentionally (but not "intentionally") foul with a three-point lead. We've debated that many times on the board, but it seems like an absolute no-brainer, especially when the offensive player has his back to the basket. 

  4. 12 hours ago, Pistol said:

    Oh man, that's awesome.

    Our bus driver got pulled over about 10 minutes outside of Carbondale my senior year. (2004-2005) He was a real character. Talkative redneck, basically. Cop made him get off the bus and they were taking forever to sort it out. Soderberg was pissed because it was a road trip he specifically planned where we wouldn't stay overnight either before or after the game, so everything was timed very precisely and the bus driver threw the pregame plans off. Of course, we went on to get stomped and he and a couple assistants blew up at some of the players in a way we hadn't seen yet that season. Lot of frustration boiled over.

    That was the game where it finally set in that this was going to be a completely lost season. Got off to a rocky start by losing bad games in the Virgin Islands, lost a few close ones after that, got blown out at Gonzaga, and then the debacle in Carbondale before coming home to lose vs. SEMO. Then we lost at Iowa on NYE (drove home in silence as the clock struck midnight) and were 2-10 heading into CUSA play. The team actually wasn't as bad as the 9-21 final record showed, as we were 1-12 in close games (decided by 6 points or less, or in OT), and if we had healthy seniors, might have been a .500 team.

    Anyway, I guess the point is that when things are already not going so well in a season, weird things (like unpredictable bus drivers) seem to pop up.

    Speaking of Methdale, apparently they spent last night stranded in a snow drift per a Stu tweet. (Wow, they've moved up in the illegal drug world. :) ) 

  5. 1 hour ago, Taj79 said:

    Brownie:  here's the Post-Dispatch version:

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/slu-faces-bonnies-team-coming-off-crazy-loss/article_ff0b9f03-c3b8-5ae6-8c59-15dc7d0ab4b6.html

    The interesting thing to me is the line "The whole thing unraveled quickly and the sequence of events is murky."  I guess the bottom line is the refs didn't control the situation then?  I can go with that.  But the security guard walking away with the basketball is also to blame.  And I would assume the security guard, even if only a rent-a-cop is hired by the university, the university is culpable as well. 

    A rob job reminiscent of last year's NCAA snub given to the Bonnies.  Also need to blame it on Otterville and nothing else to do on a good Saturday.  Feel for you pal.

    I'll have to watch at our next game and see if a security guard collects the ball thereafter. That seems like an awfully odd role for him. 

  6. 1 hour ago, CBFan said:

    You think or are you sure it was the players not the fans?

     Fans players who cares time on the clock on the court when your not supposed to be on the court.

    I agree Schmidt and his joke of a staff and players, normally they put their arms out to keep over zealous players from making that mistake.

    Every college coach should show this to their players and fans, don't do this.

    If you watch the clip that was posted, the shot went through at 0.4. But later on during the clip, before any other time had elapsed, the clock (and God knows where the broadcast clock was being fed from, Missouri State, cough, cough) DID say 0.0. If that's what it said in the arena and that's what the fans saw, they weren't at fault (and I'd question whether the technical was called for). 

  7. 8 hours ago, brianstl said:

    To make downtown as whole work you need something in Union Station successfelly functioning to help bridge downtown to the Grand Center/Wells Fargo/SLU/Cortex areas. This will become even more true if/when the USPS moves their local headquarters operations out of that area.  

    This would be true if it hadn't already been proven to be false -- more than once. Kielvistrade really helped Union Station, let alone the area immediately adjacent to it (Kielvistrade), didn't it? Or did Union Station die after Kiel was renovated, and is there a bar/restaurant space directly catercorner that's been vacant for what, 10 years?

    And let's not forget all the development that sprung up around the Dome after it was built. (Or should we remember that building it pushed Tony's out of a 40-year location, and left us without a viable bus station, and knocked down a fully functional 20-some-story hotel and area around it that kept the north part of downtown connected?)

    Then there was Busch II, which ended up assimilating all the land within 200 yards of it and actually destroyed small business by making it illegal to sell stuff in proximity. 

    Stadiums and arenas do not spur development. Stadiums and arenas are not "multipurpose." Stadiums and arenas are where sports teams play between three and 25 percent of the year, leaving them vacant and unused for the other 275 to 350 days of the year. 

    BTW I'd actually be happy to see a soccer stadium built at either location (even though the Foundry plan is dead). But only because I'd like to have a local professional soccer team. 

  8. 1 hour ago, HoosierPal said:

    There weren't all that many people there to start with.  The announced crowd was tied for the fourth smallest regular season game, in what, our ninth year at Chaifetz.

    In fairness, a whole lot of people gave a pass to a 6 p.m. weeknight game. Luckily I got out of work a little early and our carpool worked out perfectly, but if I (like one of my seatmates) was working my normal schedule, I would have strongly considered sitting that one out. 

    But screw the students. While they were sitting in their rooms streaming Sponge Bob marathons, they missed what college basketball and rooting for your school are all about. Ash holes. (Thank God for our Band.) 

  9. 1 hour ago, brianstl said:

    Now if we could just do away with the depressed section of highway downtown.

    That would have been easy in the past five or six years, but the Great White Fathers chose instead to have 44 East link up with 70 West. So it ain't happenin' in your lifetime. 

  10. 1 hour ago, hsmith19 said:

    Downtown St. Louis has seen some of the greatest residential population growth of any CBD in the nation over the past 20 years.

    Well, in fairness, 20 years ago almost no one lived there. The percentage growth is enormous, but the gross population is still pretty dinky for a CBD that has residential in it. 

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