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Student Season tickets are now up for sale at $135.
I think that they should have sold them for cheaper, closer to $110 to attract more students. There are a lot of student who know they can't make 14 games so they end up buying tickets individually because they are $10 individually. Consequently they go to less games than if they would have bought season tickets.
Regardless, I bought them because I know it will be worth the money for me. I just think the athletic dept is making a small mistake here. Maybe they'll catch on next year.
I don't think they would have sold that many more. Until we're at the point where it's hard to get tickets, most students aren't going to be season ticket holders. You're a diehard fan and that's great, but most students aren't. A lot of students are from out of town too and can't make the games over break, so even at $110 they're paying the same. Being a season ticket holder also doesn't make students attend. I also people who bought season tickets freshman year and never went to a game. People will always have excuses not to go, even if the tickets were free.
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I just said that I hope these comments aren't racially motivated. There was no accusation. I feel bad that the poster's run-in with Cotton was unpleasant. My sister had him as a SLU 101 leader and said he was very nice, but then again, I don't know him personally.
No where did you say that you hope that they weren't racially driven. And no one was talking about race until you brought it up.
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i dont pretend to be a math genius, but if the conference goes from only playing 17 conference games, to now playing 18 which means they each likely dump one "buy game". second, they each drop 2 of the worst rpi conference teams which some teams were playing 4 games against and instead will now substitute 4 in conference games with likely tougher rpi games, there seems like there would be no way their indivdual and big 12/10 conference rpi wouldnt significantly increase. could you document your neutral? thanks in advance.
According to Pomeroy, if the new Big 12 had been in existence this year (so, without Neb and CU) the conference would have had the highest RPI since 2004 ACC. I think that's pretty telling.
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I enjoy watching soccer, especially on the world stage like this. I don't understand many of the nuances and subtleties that the die hard soccer fans do, but I still enjoy the sport. Biggest problem I have with it is lack of winner in tie situations.
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Texas never liked the playoff game - they never liked the two divisions - subsequently those points you made or moot. There is little need to add any other teams unless the teams being added bring in big dollars for a TV package and none of the teams you mention will do that. While Smith might pay for Memphis to get into a BCS conf he won't pay the 10m every year so Memphis is not a long term financial gain. I do agree that the current saving of the Big 12 does make any changes for SLU unlikely at this time. Even if ND ultimately joins the Big 10 the Big East only has to add one more BB only team and that would more likely be X. By the way, all the Big 12 teams can set up their own networks if they want now so what TX got is nothing different then what the others have but I do agree that TX has a better chance to get bigger dollars.
Wrong: http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/FedEx-w...ort-says-061210
10 mil annually, and while that may be a rounding error for Texas, it still increases the wealth of the league. Weak football, good to great basketball, not very good academics. Will be interesting to see what happens...
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I believe I typed "if they're smart". The smart move would not include adding more Texas schools.
Indeed. I was just saying this entire process has been brought on by Beebe being an idiot. He deserves to be fired. Being proactive and not reactive would involve trying to add several new schools to strengthen and insulate the conference from future poachers.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think they'll stay at 10 for very long. If they're smart any expansion will be outside their current footprint. Schools like Cincy, Louisville, Memphis, Utah, New Mexico in the mix. Newer markets and more $$.
You must not know Dan Beebe.
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agreed. biondi is open to the idea if someone hands him 10 million for it. i think it's about time we tap into the endowment and take the same path as Charlotte. Start small and maybe in 12 years we could go D1.
You can't look just at SLU for this kind of a decision. You need to look at conferences. We don't fit in any conference based on geography and academics except those with football programs.
Sounds like a giant money hole to me. Why don't we get some name recognition in at least one sport before we start trying out one that will take more than a decade to get to a respectable level (not even talking a good team, more just D-1).
And as others have pointed out, we have to raise womens sports funding to match that increase for football team. So if someone hands Biondi a 10 mil check, we better have another 10 for womens teams ready to go.
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Lets say the big east loses 3 or so teams to the SEC/Big Ten. Where are the other Big East teams going to go? Most likely they will join ACC teams and form their own 16 team conference.
That leaves Providence, Villanova etc. with no conference. It would make sense for them to add/team up with a couple of other non-football programs and make a new conference. Xavier and Dayton obviously make sense and SLU has to be considered for that.
How is it .001% possible?
Who's to say that Gtown and Nova don't upgrade their football programs to full D-1A status? When the Big East was formed, UConn got called up from the FCS. As lucrative as BCS football is, I don't think these schools would want to be on the outside looking in when it comes to conference realignment. Now, maybe they don't upgrade and then form this new non-football conference. Or maybe they make an exception for the non-footbals schools and have even larger conferences than 16.
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For every Calipari and Pitino who has come back to the college ranks there is 10 Tim Floyds. Or a guy like PJ Carlesimo who couldn't get hired by any college in the country.
Izzo could make a lot of money but even Pitino and Calipari took major hits to their legacies by going to the NBA and failing. Pitino had to take over a rebuilding Louisville and Calipari a downtrodden Memphis program. Pitino took over a UK program on NCAA probation, that was the best job he could get. When he came back again he took over a Louisville program coming off a 12 win season. Calipari didn't make the NCAAs at Memphis till year 3. Plus Izzo isn't a slick guy like Pitino and Calipari. Izzo doesn't recruit consensus All Americans to Michigan St. It took him years to build MSU into a contender with his type of player. At this stage of his career I don't think he can start over in the college game.
And that's what he's thinking about. It's late in his career. Another NBA shot might not happen for him. And one certainly won't happen with a player like Lebron (assuming he stays).
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Skip, for what it's worth, Bernie had the yahoo/rivals guy on the radio at noon. According to this guy anyway, the Big 10 targets are ND, Maryland, Rutgers and Vandy. No mention of Texas. Even if that is true, there's plenty of gamesmanship going on right now.
Texas Board of Regents is meeting Tuesday to discuss realignment.
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With Izzo potentially going to the Cavs, people have been speculating who would be coach. Fran Fraschilla has this to say: "Brian Gregory is Izzo guy most like Tom in temperment and would be logical replacement to me. Don't think Crean would leave IU hanging."
Wouldn't that be something.
Personally, I hope Izzo stays though. He's good for college basketball.
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http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html
To recap the article's rumors:
Texas and Texas A&M to the Big 10
OSU (according to TMZ sports, so take that FWIW) to the Pac 10
OU to the SEC, but need a partner school to go with.
Still no word from Mizzou.
So much for Texas and A&M meeting to keep the conference together. See ya Big 12.
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Ummm, okay. There are 340+ D-I basketball teams theoretically playing for the same trophy, and 120 BCS football teams doing the same. This whole thing is a pretty obvious move by the most powerful few dozen of that 120 to keep the revenue to themselves and force the NCAA and all other teams technically in the same division into a pretty uncomfortable situation. It's been done in more subtle ways in the past- scheduling in both sports, shady recruiting practices, rampant boosterism, exclusive TV contracts, and so forth- but this is a different level of trying to turn a single division fuctionally into two. You have no problem with that?
I think that post was sarcasm.
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Unless I missed something it read like a done deal from both CU's and PAC 10's sources. I'd say the B12's best hope, especially for KU, is to merge with the MWC and get Boise State.
Like I said, not necessarily. There's been no official word that Texas and friends are going to the Pac11. It ain't over till its over. CU is gone, but that's the equivalent of Fordham leaving. Nebraska is almost certainly going too, but the lynchpin is Texas. If they stay, the Big 12 (while in a different form) will remain for the time being. If they are to go, then I would agree with you.
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Bye bye big 12.
Not necessarily. It depends on what Texas decides to do.
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Well, I guess CU wanted to get in front of this and just announced they are going to the Pac-10. One question I have and don't see it in the various online stories, is the move effective immediately? I would assume so, but it seems like there would be quite a few logistics to work out (e.g. scheduling).
From an article about nebraska leaving:
The Cornhuskers likely will remain in the Big 12 for the next two years. The conference requires at least two years notice of a team’s intention to leave. Even with that, the penalty for opting out is 50 percent of the revenue earned during those two lame-duck years. According to Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe, if a school were to give less than two years’ notice, it could lose up to 90 percent of its revenue during the time it remains in the Big 12.
So... They can, but it financially it wouldn't make much sense. Schedules are already set anyway. It wouldn't take place until next year at the earliest.
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The rumor is that Colorado has a news conference scheduled for tomorrow morning to announce that the school will be leaving the Big 12 and joining the Pac 10.
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If KU were to look at starting a new conference.... KU,K-State,Iowa State. You also have to figure football into the mix,so what if Northern iowa went to D1? Mo State? I could see them talking to Memphis.Would they try to get 8 teams,and what if they wanted to add 4 non -football midwest schools? Creighton,Xavier,SLU and Dayton??? Would this be interesting, maybe the dominos are starting to fall
There's talk of KU getting left out. No one is really mentioning them. I still think that someone has to pick them up. Who knows though.
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http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news/compa...ofits/index.htm
Keep in mind this aren't necessarily accurate due to the way each school does their accounting.
Some schools of note: revenue (profit margin %)
SLU - 3,105,150 (0.0%)
Xavier - 8,791,518 (55.2%)
Dayton - 9,091,521 (62.6%)
Missouri State - 3,745,378 (50.9%)
SIUC - 1,805,378 (-23%)
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Geography, academics and the primary reason-- $$$/TV markets (St. Louis and Kansas City) instead of just Kansas City.
It's all about football.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball...asketball;cover
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Maybe this has already been discussed, but why is Kansas excluded from all Big 10 merger discussion? I am not a big KU fan but I don't see why the Big 10 would necessarily want MU over KU.
Football.
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The Big 10 already has an Eastern footprint...Penn State. Not that they couldn't improve upon that, but Penn State gives you Pittsburgh and Philly and is the closest thing the NYC area regularly considers a home town team for college football (sorry Syracuse, Rugers, and UConn). Also, I think if KU is faced with the choice of going to a better conference or sticking it out with K-State in a Big 12 leftover/CUSA/Mountain West combo, they probably dump their rival unless Kansas politicians are like Texas politicians.
Kansas Board of Regents said that KU and KSU will be in the same conference, which really limits KU.
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I'd say overall there was very good student support this year. I'd like to see an improvement on it, but last year wasn't too bad.