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That sounds like a standard night in 108
I'm sure you and Davola do a lot of dancing with each other. Quite the menacing pair you two make
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Chafeitz doesnt sell wine coolers....I looked into it as a chaser after my whiskey flask. Either come down to 108 or shut your mouth. See you Wednesday night.
Shut my mouth about what tough guy? If I come down to 108 what are we gonna do? Fight? Have a drinking contest? Dance?
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So results are all based upon the players only, and coaches making greater than a $ million are all the same?
(Or are you just trying to stir it up with us in your pathetic, sad, attention deprived world?)
Huh? Speak English much? What are you trying to say? I'll try to be as simple as possible for you. If KM makes 1st team A10 or CE makes the All Freshmen A10 team, Posty is happy. If RM wins COY for A10, Posty really doesn't care. Its been my experience that many COY winners in college and pro sports find themselves out of a job in a few years. If RM wins, great. If not, who cares.
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108 will eat you for breakfast
This is the kind of amateur hour reply I expect from 108. Have another wine cooler.
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He's saying attitudes that produce threads like these are "small time." How hard is that to understand?
You need to talk real slow to Ace and leave out as many big words as possible. ACE fancies himself Mr. Defender of All Things and People Billiken even though most on here don't like him and he's only been to maybe a handful of games in his life.
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If Ellis is specifically mentioned in the article, I'd tend to think they took him into account for our pre-season ranking. When did the pre-season rankings come out? October-ish?
Also- we never did get to you meet you in section 108 last game...where were you?
Ellis is mentioned in the article written by our beat writer. And he even he mentions that Ellis was not named to the all preseason freshmen team which leads him to believe the other writers/coaches aren't sure that he was going to be on the squad.
I didn't go down to 108. I'd go to high school parties if I wanted to hang with people that can't handle their alcohol.
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Ellis is specifically mentioned in the article.
We thought we had Ellis at the time.
No one knew the NCAA was going to screw us around.
I'm pretty certain Ellis was factored in to that pre-season poll.
I doubt it. Doesn't sound like it.
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Actually, we were picked 12th by some.
http://interact.stltoday.com/blogzone/bill...in-atlantic-10/
I'm pretty sure we were picked that low because they evaluated the team we had, not the one we have now(with Ellis).
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How is the current lack of prominence nationally SLU fandom's fault?
That would be the fault of not making the NCAA tournament in a decade.
It's not but you could make a minor case that the lack of a prominent and raucous fan base has contributed to SLU's middle of the road place in the world of college basketball.
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The Billikens were picked to finish in 11th place.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/notebook?pag...shootaround/a10
We finished last year with a conference record of 8-8 (18-14 overall).
We are the youngest team in Div I.
Will Majerus win A-10 coach of the year?
Probably, but I got to be honest, it really doesn't matter. I get excited when our players receive acknowledgement but I'm not gonna lose sleep over a guy making a million a year getting cited for doing his job.
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And that's why you cheer for Mizzery, correct?
Why is that?
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If the NCAA tourney started today, it would be 3. The NCAA has said time and time again they do not give out bids to conferences and value each team on its own merit. As of right now, only 3 A-10 teams have put together a season long performance deserving of NCAA bids. A few weeks ago it looked like Charlotte, RI, and Dayton could be in that group but they have all had very rough stretches and quite frankly have not earned bids.
Lastly, anyone that thinks SLU has an at-large possibility is living in a fantasy land. The best we can do RPI wise and not win the conference tourney is like 58. Go back through time and one will not find more than a very rare case of 55+ RPI teams getting at large bids.
Kshoe gets it.
That's all well and good, but our RPI is low mainly due to our games before Ellis. If you could figure our RPI on games only after Ellis I think people would be talking about the four A10 teams that are locks...number four being the Billikens.
I don't think you can pick and choose when you start counting a teams games for their RPI's sake. Chances are, it wouldn't be all that better than any of the teams from the BCS conferences. Their RPI's always get a boost it seems during conference play because they're playing top 50 teams multiple times.
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Personally I didn't have a big problem with the play by the Duquesne player, but I also don't understand why the original post prompted such a strong response by thicks where he takes a shot at SLU fans. It's odd which things set him off. It's not like somebody said SPUMAC on BILLIKENS.com or anything like that. On Saturday night after a nice SLU win, why would he be so testy? Then I figured that it must have been the result of another game that was being played around the same time that put him in such a bad mood.
Your act is growing old.
As far as the dunk goes, I laughed. I thought that was the appropriate response when the game is in hand and someone from the other team does somthing silly like that.
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball...k-to-rock-arena
From CBSSPORTSLINE:
Final thought: Most coaches insist they don't read message boards (or even newspapers and websites, in some cases) just like celebrities swear they don't read gossip magazines, but I've never believed them. So I was thrilled when I learned that Xavier coach Chris Mack posted on XavierHoops.com on Thursday night and pleaded with his fans to bring energy to the Cintas Center for Sunday's A-10 showdown with Richmond.
The post -- filed by "Coach Mack" at 8:57 p.m. -- reads as follows:
"Asking for the LOUDEST game ever in the history of the Cintas Center. You say NO students. I say NO excuse. We need our fans to be a TRUE 6th man this Sunday at 1pm. Our team needs you early. Our team needs you loud. If you're just going to come to the game to watch, give your tickets up. Heck, you can WATCH from home. I want our arena rocking!! Calling all PARTICIPANTS. This isn't a marketing ploy. This is your head coach, sitting at his home computer asking for the best fans in the country to come alive for 40 game minutes on Sunday LIKE NEVER BEFORE. A-10 teams dislike coming to our incredible arena. They need to FEAR it. I know the 5 guys on the floor and our bench will play very hard for you on Sunday. We need the 10,250 in blue seats to be one big, living, breathing, loud and raucous 6th man. I want EVERYTHING you have. I want a curfew of midnight for all ticket holders. You're going to need your rest. Sunday will be the most fun you've ever had at a Xavier game. ... Wear blue. Stand. Be loud. Get it done. I realize not all Xavier fans come to message boards. That's okay. Copy and paste this and email your X friends. ... I want to win. Our players want to win. Help be the reason we win! Let's get it!!!!!"
Seriously, what's better than that?
"Our students are gone [on spring break] ... and I wanted to make sure the people who are coming are participants," Mack told me by phone late Thursday. "I want them to be excited, and I want them to want to win just as badly as the kids because it's harder for a team to win on the road when the fans are going nuts. So I want a great atmosphere because I think it'll help our kids."
After speaking about the game -- a huge game considering Xavier and Richmond are in a three-way tie with Temple for first in the A-10 -- I spent time talking to Mack about message boards in general. He said he doesn't read XavierHoops.com nearly as much as his staff, but admitted he does pop on every once in a while, mostly when Xavier director of basketball administration Mario Mercurio mentions it.
"If Mario says there's something good or funny on there, I'll go on there," Mack said. "But you just have to have thick skin and know that in today's world everybody is going to be a critic. ... It's easier to go on there when you're winning."
Because message boards are more fun with an 11-2 league record.
"That's right," Mack said with a laugh. "That's exactly right."
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Atlantic 10 Conference
Work left to do: Rhode Island, Dayton, Charlotte, Saint Louis
The A-10 bubble race is about as muddled as the middle of the pack in the Big East. It cleared up a little bit this week when Xavier and Richmond joined Temple in "lock" status. Those three teams are tied for first place in the A-10 standings with 11-2 records, and all seem very safe in terms of NCAA at-large bids. But four other teams are battling for what could be as few as one other at-large spot. Dayton certainly didn't help its chances by losing its second straight game, and Saint Louis has absolutely no room for error after losing to Xavier at home Wednesday.
Rhode Island [20-6 (8-5), RPI: 28, SOS: 64] The Rams walloped Fordham to end a three-game losing streak, but they still face an uphill climb for an NCAA at-large bid. The Rams have only two wins over RPI top-50 opponents, beating Dayton (road) and Oklahoma State (neutral court). Worse, the Rams were swept by Temple and lost to fellow A-10 bubble teams Xavier (road) and Richmond (home). They have only a 1-5 record against the A-10's other teams in contention for an at-large bid. Rhode Island is 0-4 against RPI top-25 foes, 2-4 against the top 50 and 5-6 against the top 100. It might be victimized by the A-10's unbalanced schedule, as it played Dayton, Richmond, Xavier and Charlotte only once, decreasing its chances to pick up signature wins. The Rams play at St. Bonaventure on Saturday and host Charlotte on March 3. They close the regular season at Massachusetts on March 6.
Dayton [18-9 (7-6), RPI: 43, SOS: 31] The Flyers lost their second game in a row Wednesday, falling 49-41 at Temple. The recent slide really puts a dent in Dayton's at-large chances. The Flyers have a decent resume, with three quality wins over RPI top-50 foes, beating Xavier (home), Georgia Tech (neutral court) and Old Dominion (home). But Dayton is only 1-5 against RPI top-25 opponents, 3-6 against the top 50 and 5-8 against the top 100. The Flyers also will have to overcome one eyesore on their resume: a 60-59 loss at RPI No. 194 Saint Joseph's on Jan. 23. Dayton is 2-4 against the A-10's other bubble teams, splitting games against Xavier, beating Charlotte (home), and losing to Temple (road), Rhode Island (home) and Saint Louis (road). Dayton probably needs to win at least two of its last three regular-season games to have a chance. It hosts Massachusetts on Saturday, plays at Richmond on March 4 and hosts Saint Louis on March 6.
Charlotte [19-8 (9-4), RPI: 55, SOS: 118] The 49ers proved once again that they can be really good or really bad on any given night. They routed Saint Joseph's 95-58 at home Wednesday, improving to 9-4 in A-10 play and ending a three-game losing streak. Charlotte has three victories over RPI top-50 foes, defeating Temple (home), Richmond (road) and Louisville (road). Seven of Charlotte's eight losses came against RPI top-50 opponents, but they weren't competitive in all of them, losing by 42 at Duke, 33 at Old Dominion, 17 at Tennessee and 28 at Dayton. The 49ers are 2-4 against RPI top-25 foes, 3-7 against the top 50 and 4-8 against the top 100. They went 3-3 against A-10 bubble teams, beating Temple (home), Richmond (road) and Saint Louis (home) and losing to Xavier (home and road) and Dayton (road). Charlotte plays at George Washington on Saturday and at Rhode Island on March 3, before closing the regular season at home against Richmond on March 6.
Saint Louis [18-9 (9-4), RPI: 90, SOS: 131] The Billikens' late-season magic finally ran out of steam in a 73-71 loss to Xavier at home Wednesday. The loss ended Saint Louis' six-game winning streak and dropped its record to 9-4 in A-10 play. Saint Louis has three home victories over RPI top-50 opponents, beating Richmond, Rhode Island and Dayton. The Billikens are 4-5 in road games, 3-2 against RPI top-50 opponents and 4-6 against the top 100. The Billikens also have three unsightly losses against RPI sub-100 opponents, losing to Iowa State (neutral court), George Washington (road) and Bowling Green (road). The Billikens host Duquesne on Saturday and Temple on March 3, before closing the regular season at Dayton on March 6. If Saint Louis wins out, the NCAA selection committee might be hard-pressed to take fellow A-10 bubble teams like Dayton and Rhode Island instead of the Billikens.
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Man, people are hard on Burwell. We spend years and years complaining that we can't get press in our own town, and this guy has written more articles about SLU than ever, and all of them with a hugely positive tone. Are John and Jane Q. Reader really going to crack open the paper and notice that he got the breakdown of freshmen and sophomores on our roster? Are they really going to check the heights of our incoming recruiting class (6'6" and 6'0" so he was 1-2)?
Most journalists make mistakes in their articles pretty frequently. They have deadlines, and have to take thoughts and scribbled notes and stat sheets and have to turn them into something printable in a couple hours. Maybe he just has a lazy editor and fact checker.
It never ceases to amaze me how hard people come down on this guy, and have right from the start of him joining the P-D staff. He's one of the only guys over there who writes consistently positive things about our program. I'll take it.
"Bang he got it!"
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Agree with you on Loe-I would love to get him. Maybe BB has some inside info on this recruit, STILL, "one" doesn't equate to a "bunch."
Frank said on his show this morning that we are one of two programs that Loe is considering.
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Who anointed you the watchdog of what SLU fans can and can't be critical of? Your trolling act is old. If you have an issue with what the original poster said, then take it up with him directly? Instead, you take something one or two people say and make sweeping generalizations about SLU fans. Even you admit, many SLU fans did not agree with what the original poster said. So why the crack about the "Billiken Daily Double"?
We are all critical of each other on here. I'm not sure why you take exception to me when I'm critical of another poster. I mean I know why, it's because like Thicks has mentioned before, you just like to try and stir up stuff on here and be a pain. I did take it up with the original poster - it's called replying to his post - it's how you do things on a message board.
I'm done with you for this thread. You've annoyed enough people already. Good luck with your collections today.
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I figured this idiot would crawl out from under his rock with a post like this. He has done it many times before. Look jack a$$, SOME Billiken fans complain about the refs and some complain about media coverage. THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO SLU FANS. I don't blame the refs for the loss, but if others want to vent about it, so what. It happens on a lot of message boards.
Who annointed you defender of all Billiken board posters. I notice you jump to the defense of anyone I happen to joke with or am critical of on here. Funny thing is no one ever defends you. How telling.
Are we not allowed to disagree with other posters on here? If some starts a thread should all following responses be "I agree. Great point." The vast majority on here didn't agree with his assessment of the officiating. Why is it so bad to tell him so?
It's a nice day out. Don't spend all day in the library when there are cans to collect out there.
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Until the Billikens learn to play against this we will never win the A-10.
Complain about the Post's coverage of the game and you'll of hit the Billiken Daily Double
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Every week, with the arrival of Joe Lunardi's new Bracketology, he also pens Behind the Bracket, which goes deeper into the issues within his popular seed-projecting feature.
It used to be that conference standings meant something. Every team played every other team in a home/away round robin that produced a true champion. The same logic applied further down the standings. If your team finished third and mine finished fifth, it was pretty hard for me to argue that my team was better.
Then came expansion and divisions and mega-conferences and unbalanced schedules. Today, only a handful of potential multi-bid conferences -- the Pac-10, Mountain West and Missouri Valley come to mind -- have what could be considered "what you see is what you get" standings.
The result is that we must be extremely careful in evaluating bubble teams in many conferences. A better league record doesn't necessarily signify who has performed better in league play.
For several years, an important tool in this process has been the calculation of intra-conference RPI and intra-conference strength of schedule. Just as the NCAA calculates RPI and SOS for non-conference games, we do the same for league games only. And now, with only two weeks left in the regular season, we can report more than a few discoveries that will likely have an impact on the final bracket.
The A-10
In the Atlantic 10, Xavier (10-2) trails Richmond (11-2) by half a game in the standings yet sits ahead of the Spiders on the current S-Curve. The reason is that the Musketeers have played the most difficult league schedule among A-10 contenders (No. 79) while the Spiders are further back in the pack. Rhode Island is even further behind in both conference RPI and SOS, leading me to question whether the Rams will hang on to an at-large bid. Take a look at how those factors translate into the S-Curve, which we use to determine seedings in Bracketology.
A-10 Potential Tournament Teams
Team Conference RPI Conference SOS S-Curve
Temple 33 120 18
Xavier 13 85 25
Richmond 26 106 26
Rhode Island 81 124 44
Dayton 79 112 47
Charlotte 55 86 73
St. Louis 53 111 80
EDIT: This chart isn't showing up correctly but you get the idea.
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Saint Louis [18-8 (9-3), RPI: 82, SOS: 142] The Billikens' improbable late-season run toward an NCAA at-large bid continued with a 69-56 win at Massachusetts on Sunday. Saint Louis has won six games in a row. It has three home victories over RPI top-50 opponents, beating Richmond, Dayton and Rhode Island. The Billikens are 4-5 in road games, 3-1 against RPI top-50 opponents and 4-5 against the top 100. The Billikens also have three unsightly losses to RPI sub-100 opponents, losing to Iowa State (neutral court), George Washington (road) and Bowling Green (road). The Billikens will have a few chances to improve their profile before the end of the regular season. Saint Louis ends with three straight home games, starting with Xavier on Wednesday night and followed by Duquesne on Saturday and Temple on March 3. It closes the regular season at Dayton on March 6.
Also, from the Coming and Going section from Joe Lundardi he list the Bills as one of teams considered on the outside of the bracket.
NEW ARRIVALS Also considered: Seton Hall, Wichita State, Notre Dame, South Florida, Washington, Minnesota, Saint Louis and William & Mary. AQ only: School can qualify only via automatic bid.
And finally, one last bit from Lunardi:
The Bubble Battle
"It must be the Atlantic 10's turn on the bubble. This week a pair of A-10 teams -- the Rhode Island Rams and Dayton Flyers -- find themselves just barely in the field, leaving the conference in a position where three NCAA bids (instead of the six we bracketed just a week ago) is entirely possible."
Rick Majerus - Coach of the Year?
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I've been going to Billiken games as long as you've been alive son.