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    Dick Vitale weighs in

    in Billikens.com Main Board

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    I rarely post (it's probably been at least 2 years) but read quite often as I'm a dedicated fan since the mid 80's. I live in Los Angeles (10 yrs running) and still follow Billiken basketball quite religiously.

    For what it's worth, as a committed fan who cares about the Billiken basketball basketball program 1st, and Majerus 2nd...a move to the MVC would be a step back, not forward. The A-10 provides offers a better platform for growth.

    Majerus will be around for the short term. A move to the MVC pigeonholes our program more so than A-10. Not to discredit the sentiments felt by but Dick V., Miklasz, and even Majerus but they do not share with SIMILAR emotion like us die-hard fans.

    It seems pretty clear to me that the vast majority of fans whose heart and soul are tied into Billiken basketball do not want a move to the MVC. My gut says Biondi and May feel the same way.

    I think thats why I find comments like what Dick V., even Majerus disturbing and frankly pisses me off a little. It's not that they don't "care", it's that they don't "care" enough about the long-term strategy after they're gone. That's just how I feel. I don't have any well-thought arguments...just a feeling that the majority of fans who are the most dedicated seem to feel the same way I do.

    Maybe others who propose this move to the MVC should really think long and hard WHY we feel so strongly about staying put. Afterall, we'r not moving. They're the ones who will have to deal with it, not the rest of us.

    Just my two cents.

    Recruiting to SLU today

    in Billikens.com Main Board

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    It seems to me, Broy's standard for coaches at SLU is pretty high. While he respects Spoon's and RM's tactical abilities and knowledge of the game, he seems to think both have little character value and are more men of style than substance. It's funny, that he's been most critical of these two coaches. Spoon was successful here for the most part. The book is still out on RM, but he's been very successful elsewhere and is making moves, that appear on the surface, will take us to a higher level. Yet, he does admire both Zo and UB. Both men struggled here in that neither could seem to deliver the caliber of players that we needed to crack the top 50. But both posessed character traits Broy admires. In contrast to Spoon and RM, Zo and UB were likeable stand up guys. Broy would love to sit down and have a few beers with them. He wouldn't even want to be in the same bar with Spoon or RM. Leads me to believe Broy's a throwback. He hangs onto the belief that college sports should be pure like it was back in the 50's and 60's. When coaches were like surrogate dads to their players. They took the blame for losses. They gave their players the credit for wins. Instead of a kick in the a** for losing, the player got praise for trying hard. Sadly, those days are long gone. This is now a cut throat business with some pretty big $$$ involved. From all that's been said or written about RM, I'm not sure I'd want to go drinking with him either. But I have no objection with the fact he's coaching my alma mater. As for recommending a player to him, in a heartbeat to any kid who was mentally strong enough to withstand his approach and passion for winning games. Look, RM's methods are are pretty common among today's successful HC's. Sure, there are exceptions who still win, but most programs with winning records and multiple post season appearances have HC's who are working the tails off their players, culling out the kids who won't make a contribution, and berating them in public forums. Hell, Billy the kid, publicly threw every Freshman he had under the bus after FL failed to make the NCAA's. Is it right? No, but it's the way it is these days. Simple as that.

    insightful post. really enjoyed your analysis.

    8,251

    in Billikens.com Main Board

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    A SLU move to the MVC IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN people. I wish that topic would go away. From an avid reader's perspective (as that's mainly my relationship to this board as I rarely post), nothing irks me more than hearing tired pro-MVC arguments.

    Whether you (collective you) like it or not, SLU has decided to give our program the best opportunity for future growth into a major program. It may not happen for 10 years, however, when/if it does happen, a large part will be because we have decided to not move to the MVC.

    And why do I get the feeling that our pro-MVC SLU fans become short-sighted when it comes to "dreaming bigger." Do you feel that defeated and harbor pessimistic emotions towards our BBall program? Sure comes off that way, at least to me....

    My tired 2 cents...

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