Billiken Law
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Being a great player does not equate to being a great, good or an even mediocre coach. Clyde Drexler ring a bell? Isaiah Thomas? Don't rest ones coaching ability on their playing success. I see nothing in Cheney's coaching resume that stands out other than being a great scorer in college and lottery pick.Cheaney should be an easy choice as Slu's next head coach. His basketball resume is by far the best out of the Slu assistants. His successful stint in the NBA will provide major help recruiting along with respect from his players. Slu will probably find a way to screw it up and promote Bronson to head coaching duties. If so, you can be sure to see any recruits with real talent walk out the door. And anyone who thinks Slu will seek out a sexy sign for head coach outside of the Billiken bench is dreaming.
Most of the former players who end up bring top flight college coaches were not stars but grinders, the floor burn and hustle guys or the floor generals. Alford may seem like an exception but he came from a coaching family and was a ridiculous workhorse squeezing more than he should have from his talents.
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A clusterschtook.
Getting the new logo on the merchandise you want and the size that you want is outrageously difficult. Total failure. Nobody knows WTF is going on, few outsiders even know we changed logos.
When will we hire dedicated SLU grads, St. Louisans to do all of the staff work? We hire mostly foo-foo out of town staff who do not give a rats ass about our university, and leave after one year for a 3% better salary elsewhere.
It's more than 3%
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Didn't the Butler coach leave on some sort 'leave of absence' mid season?
He took a leave of absence for medical reasons before the 2013-14 season and Holtmann replaced him mid season when the leave became permanent.
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I would worry that Carlesimo would take a lot of $$$ and do nothing. This happened at Cleveland St. When they hired Rollie Massimino at the end of his career.
Speaking of Cleveland St., Gary Waters is a great coach who has shown a knack for finding local diamond in the rough recruits. Unfortunately for him, 3 of his players transferred to high profile D1 programs this year (Michigan St., Louisville, Wichita St.)
Waters also flamed out at Rutgers and is 64
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Oakland is up by nine right now over Michigan St.. Just saying.
Kampe is a lifer at OU. 60 years old, 31 years there, took them from D2 to D1 and the Horizon League.
What about Tim Cluess, from Iona? He'd probably only leave for something bigger, but just throwing a name out there. Would we want him? He is 56 years old, so not exactly a hotshot like Stevens or Shaka.
East Coast guy. He turned down Fordham. Happy at Iona, Rutgers or Seton Hall is what he would leave for.
You guys like to throw around a lot of mediocre names. More of the same. Got to go big.
What is a "big" hire? The reality we have to face is the changing structure of college athletics. Non Power 5 schools (especially without football) aren't going to get "big names" as the split approaches. You have to go with a hot shot assistant (Wojo at Marquette, Miller at Dayton, Holtmann at Butler), successful low major coach (Fordham coach, Paulson at George Mason, Wade at VCU) or retread (Leitao at DePaul). That's the reality of bring outside the Power 5 and at a non football school now.
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When I first started looking at colleges before my senior year I took a visit to U of Evansville. My boss, an IU grad, said to me " Jim Crews. The next coach at Indiana." This was 1993. He had a couple solid years taking UE to the NCAA tourney 3 times and the NIT twice in 7 years. I remember UE wearing the t-shirt jerseys. He had solid but unspectacular success after UE jumped to the Valley and made the tourney again in 1999 but IU never called, he took the Army job out if the blue and failed there. He's a very good basketball mind, a good man but he's from a previous era that basketball has moved on from.One thing seems certain: If Jim Crews had any aspirations of returning to his alma mater to be head coach, his performance at SLU these past two seasons would be kissing that opportunity bye-bye.
Crews never had a spectacular record at Evansville, though at one time he appeared promising while in the MCC, but I held out hope that at a higher level conference and with better facilities than what hindered Spoon, Romar, and Soderberg (West Pine), Crews could recruit at a higher level than he could at Evansville and he could apply some of that hand-me-down Bobby Knight magic and keep SLU at or above the level that Rick Majerus had the program trending. Alas, while his recruits appear to have decent athleticism and skill, on the court between the ears he seems unable to develop a good team and it appears today's game has passed him and the entire Bobby Knight coaching tree by.
It's nothing personal though. I like him a great deal as a character person. But the program needs a basketball coach much more than a role model.
Asa far as a "big name," what do people define that as? Does SLU want to go the retread route?
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First Kent is not a big name. Second Carter is a mediocre point guard playing in a low mid major conference and is shooting around 30% against subpar competition. Third I wouldn't put it past Majerus to tank a program for his ego
I'm wasn't saying that is WAS Kent (and I do doubt this person Cowherd speaks of even exists). However, I do know that when the staff knew they were going to be fired they just didn't care anymore and even overlooked one of their best players being tampered with by another program.
That said, a legend is never going to act so petty and heinous as to destroy a program to make himself look better. For one, they don't need to do that, they're already a legend. Secondly, Majerus had health issues, it wasn't some planned departure on his part and to insunuate he did it is beyond low.
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Soderberg lost to UT Martin
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Cowherd is pretty much full of crap. coaches pick their successors because they are loyal to them, believe in them and want to further build their legacies. Bennett did this with Soderberg, Ryan is doing this with Gard, Hearhcoat did this with Izzo. If Crews was Rick's choice it's because he believed in him.
Now, a coach who knows he's going to be fired may say "F it" and do what Cowherd suggests. See: Ernie Kent.
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That UT Martin game was my first game as a SLU student. It angered me greatlyI recall us actually being on the bubble at the end of Brad's first year. We lost to UAB by a point, and it felt like had we won, that would've been enough to get us pretty close to a bid. We would've played Lullville for the championship.
After that Louisville game we went on a rediculous run to get on the bubble. Blew a big lead to So Miss in the first round of the tourney, didn't we lead in much of the UAB game too? Ran out of gas. It was a hell of a run though!
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NOTHING is worse than getting slapped around at our place by SEMO in the Sodie era. I worked in the can collecting business with a SEMO guy and I had to listen to that fool for weeks. The game was embarrassing. We were never in it.
That entire season was beyond awful. 2-10 in the non conference, losing to SEMO, Austin Peay, Eastern MI, SIUC and Oral Roberts. It was worse when you look at the talent on that team: Bryant, Izik, Ian, Drejaj (Frericks getting injured was a blow). That was a brutal season.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/saint-louis/2005-schedule.html
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Does. Damn iPad keyboard.Why? I could care less how they do it. Just win!
And how much less could you care?
Seriously though, there are plenty of ethical and successful coaches one can hire. How land is not one of those, which is why he's in the SEC.
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Quite a few schools passed on Howland. He begged for the Marquette job and they didn't bite. There were others he wanted but whatever happened at UCLA and with Josh Smith tainted him badly. Mississippi State doesn't care about standards, SLU dies and should.
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I looked for tickets for one of the concerts (Elton John maybe) and they had seating in the entire place plus floor. I wouldn't be surprised if concert seating has higher capacity than BB seating.
Bruce's arena shows have an unobstructed stage so no curtain, no blocked off sections. I would guess an additional 1000 floor seats (pit then the "second pit").
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The lyrics to the old fight song are still on the Wikipedia page. I would much rather keep "The Saints" than come up with a new melody for the old (pretty boring) lyrics.
In 2005 the AD had a student contest to write lyrics for "The Saints" and the winner performed it during a game. I doubt it was ever heard again. I don't care about words, the tune is great.
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I'm not surprised he's doing Chaifetz. He loves playing St. Louis but the last 3 shows at Scottrade haven't sold out. Damn work commitment trip will make me miss it. that show, being late in the tour, should be epic, especially considering he'll pull out special rarities the first time he plays a venue.
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That would be Marque Perry.
Most wicked crossover by anyone not named Tim Hardaway.
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Looks likes the same firm that designed the new Billiken logo modeled it on that powerhouse Holy Names in Oakland.
http://www.hnuhawks.com/landing/index
My wife said it best: "I don't hate it."
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They're not getting rid of the Billiken. Chris May would be fired for being dumb enough to present the idea as possible.
The fierce thing is so silly. Most universities have primary logos that are just letters. The physical mascot (person in costume) is for kids. That doesn't and shouldn't need to be "fierce."
I can't think of a single seconardy mascot logo that is "fierce."
back in 2002 a rebranding took place with the new font and "SLU" logo, primarily to create uniformity amongst all teams. At the time I was told that any change to the Billiken would have to come from Father Biondi. I have no idea if that is still the case with the new President.
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Can't understand why we're always stuck w/ just 2 unis, same except for home and away. Would like to see a grey/silver home uni and a black for the road added to the wardrobe. Kids go for this stuff these days, but we're too friggin' stuffy.
Duquense is fortunate that they're an Adidas school. Adidas is losing market share in college athletics at an alarming rate so they allow even their smaller clients to have more creative control. Meanwhile, Nike has so many schools those like SLU get lost in the mix and get Nike's stock designs. Maybe a reexamining of the contract with Nike is in order.
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Yes, ensuring that your mascot looks "fierce" is the key to long-term success both on the court and in team gear sales.
I agree. Is Brutus the Buckeye, "fierce?" Testudo the Turtle? The ND Leprechaun? Puddles the Duck (yes, his name is "Puddles"). The Billiken was certainly "fierce" enough the previous years to win national titles in soccer and conference titles in hoops.
IMO, changing or abandoning the Billiken would be a decision beyond horrible. It is one of, it not them most unique mascots in D1 and with the right marketing should be one of the most popular. I know professional athletes who are SLU grads who love the Billiken, it was apparently "fierce" enough for them.
And going to "fierce" doesn't mean good. Look at DePaul. Billy Blue Demon was a classic but the rebrand is brutal. And, success certainly hasn't followed in the wake of retiring Billy for Dibs despite being more "fierce."
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What am I missing here? That the idealogue congressperson happened to go to Creighton somehow represents the whole university and the entire Big East conference membership, at least the 4 Jesuit schools?
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The book on Lancona is he thinks he has high major game, actually has mid major skills, at best, and a cut from the JV team work ethic. He could play immediately at a D2 school like UCSD or Cal State East Bay but he thinks he belongs at a Pac12 school. Even Irvine isn't interested in him. Plus, his dad comes as a package deal.Lancona didn't play hard. I'm not sure what player you all were watching but I saw 0 hope and knew he would be gone because there was NO EFFORT. I knew he would be gone from the first time he showed up on the court. Losing him can only help, to be perfectly honest.
This was a bit much so ill qualify that this was my impression based on on court performance observations. Only TL knows for sure what happened this season, maybe he was just truly overwhelmed.
I saw TL put especially little effort inside. CE and RL overcame that with enormous training and conditioning and will.
He has to be willing to be tough inside or he will not play anywhere. I hope he finds a staff he buys into and gets tough in the college game. This is a physical sport.
If not mentioned already, McBroom is supposed to be going to Eastern Washington.
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Not bad. Similar to the new Clippers logo. I'm didn't like the old font on the hoops jersey. This should look good, though will they say "Saint Louis" or "Billikens" is the question now.
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"Code?" Do tell......
Unless you mean "non superstars." One specific comment made about Magic Johnson's failure as a coach was that everything came naturally to him that he didn't know how to teach players and could not relate to them when they struggled. If being a great player were the main criteria then why would any non player ever be considred?
Tony Bennett is a great example, King Rice, Sydney Johnson (particularly his Princeton days), Kevin Ollie, Tom Izzo, Brian Wardle, are others that immediately come to mind. Hell, I basically described Majerus.