Billiken Law
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Made my first trip to Columbia yesterday for the Nebraska game. My buddy who came to visit is a HUGE Husker fan and had us wearing red. I'd seen photos of campus when I was looking at it for grad school and it was nice but it was nothing special. Kind of a typical public shcool campus but a lot smaller than I thought. I found Shakespear's Pizza rather overrated but I must say that Harpo's was the best college bar I've ever patroinized. The town of Columbia was OK, however I could also see why Mizzou students have been ranked the "Unhappiest in the country" by Princeton Review.
Mizzou fans, I have to give you props. Farot was electric all game. I've been to more than 30 Big Ten games in my life at 5 different stadiums and this beat any of those. Props also to Mizzou students who while celebrating in town afterwards were restrained and orderly and other than some comments in jest towards us wearing red (the best was "Nebraska makes Baby Jesus cry"). I also loved the cutting up of the goalposts outside of Harpo's. I may strongly dislike Mizzou basketball but I am a fan of Mizzou football after last night.
Best line of the night, however, was when the basketball team was brought out on the field between the 1st and 2nd quarter and I asked "where's Ricky Clemons?" A Mizzou fan behind me said "don't you see him? He's in the striped jumpsuit with those 2 armed guys standing beside him!"
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when I was at the conference tourney a rather comely woman came up to me and asked me what a Billiken was and how SLU came to be known as the Billikens. Upon my answer I was invited to her suite (at Freedom Hall, NOT hotel, guys!) for free beer!
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Aren't we fiesty today!
All I'm saying is that the kid's name is Ian. It's not that hard to pronounce. At MU we had Odarty Blankson who all the fans called "ODB." He hated that. But if we must call him "Zorba" what do we call Izik, since he's foreign too?
As for the mascot thing, don't get me started on that. It was the decision of 2 administrators (both of whom are no longer at MU).
Of course, it could be worse. Check out Ole Miss's new logo choices....
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It's not like he has an incredibly difficult name to pronounce. And besides, so he's Greek. Does that mean any time SLU has a foreign player we have to come up with some ethnic nickname? Many of these kids also HATE nicknames fans stick on them.
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"i.e. if the kid at the end of the bench that hasnt played the last year or two "decides" he would be better off going elsewhere to finish his college basketball career. amazingly, they would have a scholarship now available."
That may happen at places like Mizzou, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc but Crean won't do that.
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No, it's true. However, some apps get done earlier than others then kids are offered and can verbal. Likely these kids were being recruited far earlier by Stanford than Shaw and thus already applied to the University, have taken their ACT's, etc.
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We are in his final three
>along with SIU, and Stanford, but Stanford hasn't offered
>yet, so it may be down to us and SIU.
Stanford cannot offer until he is accepted into the university. If he's serious about Stanford he'll have to wait until the late period to see if he gets in before Montgomery can give him an offical offer.
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A hot name here in the past for the last scholarship (have to think Brad would look for a 3 or 4) and someone asked what Burns's status is. He did not return to Milwaukee Custer HS and enrolled at a North Carolina prep school. Needs serious academic work. Probably out of the picture with SLU with the landing of Liddell.
How about the future slogan "See Liddell on Lindell."
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ACT or maybe it was grades. I know that academic concerns led to MU stopping their recruitment of Tommie - that and the need for post players (though, as I've said, Crean really liked his game). A couple posts on the Marquette board today from a MU and Purdue (who was also once after Tommie) insider mention either prepping or sitting out a year. Hopefully his summer off from basketball was productive academically and that is no longer the case. I doubt Brad would have offered him if he were still an academic risk.
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no scholarships to give? I also know MU stopped recruiting Tommie early in the summer but Crean did like him as a player (told me this himself without mentioning Tommie's name specifically). I think someone's playing with you and trying to keep the news on the DL until it's announced for in public.
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Marquette hasn't been in the picture for a long time and I don't think they ever offered him. They pretty much stopped recruiting him early this summer after his first ACT scores came out but the main factor was that Crean placed a priority on post players as his most pressing need (since they lose Merritt and Sanders this year and New Jackson next year and are pretty loaded at guard in the freshman and sophomore classes) and got 2 of his top 3 priorities (lost out on Pruitt). I thought there was a post last month about Oklahoma and Wake Forest being interested in Tommie or am I thinking of someone else.
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is whether or not the Big East has or will up the departure fee. It is currently $1 million but I've heard it will be moving up to $10 million to keep the league in tact.
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ND to the ACC is dead. ND stands to lose too much NBC money. ND has too much clout in the east coast and too much of an alum (and subway alum) base there to leave. Also, the Big East has called an emergency meeting to accellerate expansion and talk is that they would up the departure fee from $1 million to $10 million, keeping BC there.
As for the Big East being set up for failure - not quite. Even if it does split you have an 8 team hoops conference of Marquette, DePaul, Villanova, SJU, G-town, Providence, Seton Hall and ND which might add a ninth IF a split happens.
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Kind of speaks to the discussion of what college co-ed's are wearing (or not wearing) and college style in general. Check out this photo comparing UNC's recruiting classes from 20 years ago and today:
http://www.czabe.com/2004_vol3/tarheels_ch...ng_times_lg.jpg
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I think my fiancee is working this Saturday night so I'm free!
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obviously there are "normal college kids" at SLU but man, go to Humphrey's or Laclede Street on a weekend night and you'll think you're at the Victoria's Secret fashion show. Of course, I'd imagine it's the same at MU bars (when I was there last you couldn't get in if you weren't wearing something Abercrombie but fashions have evolved since then to skimpier and more revealing. Why is it when I went to college the fashion for females was bulky sweatshirts????)
And so what if the kid on the MU website has long hair. I've got law classmates at SLU who look like that and I've seen plenty at Wash U that look similar with even longer hair, more earrings, etc. It's college fashion, we're not meant to understand if we're not on campus. My parents have this argument with my brother every time he comes home....
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I wasn't specifically accusing anyone of running down MU for taking Wade. However, there have been comments on this board that Crean got MU to lower their academic standards (as evidenced by taking Wade) and inplement a PE major to become competitive, both of which are not true.
Whoever said there are partial qualifiers and then partial qualifiers, you couldn't be more true. Let's hope (and I'm confident he will) Liddell takes the Wade and not the Kern route.
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If SLU does indeed get Tommie Liddell that's a huge get for them. However, do they still take him if he's a partial or even non-qualifier? What about those of you who have been critical of schools like Marquette for taking Wade, a partial qualifier?
Question about Kern? Did he choose not to come to SLU because he didn't qualify or was he denied admission (it looks like he wouldn't have lasted a SLU anyway).
Personally, I have no problem with taking a partial if they show the drive and ambition to take advantage of the opportunity they've been given to succeed in the classroom and earn their eligibility.
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and didn't see any "gay pirates" running around. Plenty of co-eds that blew away just about anything I went to school with, but I digress! Also saw the results of $150 million in new construction - the campus is beautiful - it isn't the Marquette I attended. I still think SLU's campus is nicer but it isn't the slam dunk it once was. I have to give an advantage to MU's surrounding neighborhood as well in terms of things for students to do (more bars, restaurants, etc).
As for the students featured on MU's site, tell me how they're any different from the students you find on SLU's campus or any other big private school campus? They're college kids, they have a fashion sense different from the rest of us. The last time I was at Humphrey's my fiancee (only 24 and someone who isn't adverse to revealing dress) thought there was a prostitute convention going on there when it turned out they were just SLU co-eds. A bunch of Britney Spears wanna-be's (not that I have a problem with that!). Does that make a SLU an inferior school?
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The problem, however, is that since Marquette's Final Four run last season, Law's perspective (along with most other Marquette fans) has become patronizing at times. We are sick of hearing comments suggesting that maybe, if we are lucky, SLU will one day be as good as Marquette and can compete in the Big East.
-I certaintly never intendend to come off as patroizing in saying that maybe SLU can rise to Marquette's level. In fact, when I first came to SLU many people here told me "we'd like to be like Marquette. They're our model." When I was at MU (94-98, the Deane years) I saw a slow decline in our hoops program, accompanied by the excuses that our academic standards were too high, our facilities sub par, didn't have the financial resources to compete with the big boys, should move to a smaller arena, we lived in the past, nobody in Milwaukee gave a damn about Marquette (in 2000 one talk-show host said MU was maybe 5th in Milwaukee in terms of interest, behind the local indoor soccer team!) etc. The same excuses I've heard since my first day at SLU. Obviously you all are die-hards that don't buy into those opinions but if you poll the general population in St. Louis and many SLU alums they'd likely say SLU can't compete and list those reasons. The saying that you can and you can be like Marquette is a way of answering the critics who view SLU as out of their league when it comes to competing in NCAA hoops, not patronizing.
"If I were a Marquette fan, I would be pi$$ed off that they are not building a new women's basketball arena, not a men's arena."
-It sure would be nice but the fact is we don't need a Men's arena and it just doesn't make sense to build one when 2 perfectly good arenas for the mens program are within 6 blocks of the MU campus. The BC has always been an asset for the MU program even when it wasn't filled. Besides, when the IHL Admirals fold in a few years MU will be the unquestioned #2 tenant at the BC - not that they have all that much trouble getting dates now since their bringing in over 15,000 a game.
Also, if we had the money to build a 15,000 seat arena that would have been great but the fact is that a number of building projects came up at the same time (new library/info tech center, new Dental School, campus beautification) and more are looming (new academic and residential facilities) made building the practice facility/women's arena more feasible for MU. The McGuire Center will be a great place for MU.
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where did I saw MU would be Final Four?
You never truly replace a Dwyane Wade. However, the idea that the only reason MU was any good was Wade and now will fall into oblivion now that Wade is gone is short-sighted at best.
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"I don't mean this to be a personal attack, Law, but ever since your Golden Eagles reached the Final Four (and even a little bit before then), the things that you've written make me consider you much more of a die-hard Marquette fan who gives SLU some sympathy points because he attends school there than a true Billikens fan. You're only a little bit more of a Billikens fan than MUTGR, who also attended SLU after graduating from an MU (Mizzou)."
I think it's more that there has been a consistant anti-Marquette tone in the past few months, especially weeks (I was in Europe all summer and rarely saw the board). The statements that Marquette will fall into oblivion now that Wade is gone, that the 2 programs are "even" because games have been close (MU and ECU have split the last 4, are those two programs even?), that MU has become "arrogant" because of what has now become billed as a "fluke Final Four run because Quinn can't coach" and statements like that. If defending my alma mater where I know many of the administrators, coaches, players and their parents is "anti-Billiken" then I guess nothing I do will be good enough to show loyalty to what I hope will soon be my second alma mater.
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But now there are so many automatic bids that the power conferences added another team to the tourney rather than take an at-large away from one of their precious members who finish 8-8 in conference. Just try getting one now!
Is it just me or does anyone else.....
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Not as long as football continues to control the NCAA and the $$$$ the way it is right now. An all basketball/no football confernece would be relegated to 2nd division status.
The Big Ten is happy with 11. The only school they would realistically invite to join as a 12th member is Notre Dame (the team that makes sense is Iowa State but that won't happen). However, right now ND may realize that they have to join a conference and with their NBC contract may take that and join the Big East as a football member to save their BCS berth and get the Big East on NBC. Let's face it, ND would be a consistant powerhouse in the Big East football conference.