WUH Posted November 4 Posted November 4 2 hours ago, majerus mojo said: Did Stu start using "Saint Louis" since he is no longer shackled by the STLPD? Durando joked about it soon after starting his SubStack, for whatever reason, the Post-Dispatch style guide required the use of St. Louis University, the legal name of the university. majerus mojo 1 Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted November 4 Posted November 4 According to the stat tracker 52% of the points were 2 pointers and all of them were in the paint. So offense is working. Quote
Old guy Posted November 4 Posted November 4 After the game, I did not hear what Schertz had to say because FanDuel changed to another game already ongoing. We did fine for the first game of the season. SEMO was a reasonably good team, they went to the Dance last year. We won by 25 pts which is over the spread but not quite by 10 pts. Still nice first game. Our percentage of scoring was better than SEMO's. We clearly outrebounded them, and had more assists. For a first game it was fine. A nice start to the season. David King 1 Quote
Dr_Romulus Posted November 4 Posted November 4 22 minutes ago, SluSignGuy said: Stu said Shertz will address after the game Thanks for that. Hopefully it shows up on his Substack. Quote
WUH Posted November 4 Posted November 4 2 minutes ago, Old guy said: We won by 25 pts which is over the spread but not quite by 10 pts. Still nice first game. Points over spread is not part of the NET. Quote
RyGuyBilliken Posted November 4 Posted November 4 We gave 67 points, but 18 of them were from free throws (2nd half ref show). Outrebounded SEMO 54-29 with 14 offensive boards. Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted November 4 Posted November 4 11 minutes ago, WUH said: Points over spread is not part of the NET. It's been discussed that Offensive Efficiency is a hidden margin of victory factor in the NET. So, a simplified view is that if you exceed the expected spread, you increase your NET. billikenbill, Billikenbooster and brianstl 3 Quote
WUH Posted November 4 Posted November 4 11 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: It's been discussed that Offensive Efficiency is a hidden margin of victory factor in the NET. So, a simplified view is that if you exceed the expected spread, you increase your NET. It's not that useful and encourages others to focus on the wrong things. Quote
JohnnyJumpUp Posted November 4 Posted November 4 49 minutes ago, SluSignGuy said: Stu said Shertz will address after the game Quote
JohnnyJumpUp Posted November 4 Posted November 4 22 minutes ago, RyGuyBilliken said: We gave 67 points, but 18 of them were from free throws (2nd half ref show). Outrebounded SEMO 54-29 with 14 offensive boards. RiseOfTheBillikens and BuiltFordBills 2 Quote
Dr. Holly Hills Posted November 4 Posted November 4 I didn’t see Anya on the bench either. Maybe I missed him though. Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted November 4 Posted November 4 10 minutes ago, WUH said: It's not that useful and encourages others to focus on the wrong things. That's immaterial to the point that it is a hidden part of the NET calculation. Quote
Dr. Holly Hills Posted November 4 Posted November 4 24 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said: Attendance: 5,364. I thought the lower bowl attendance was disappointing. We need to pump these numbers up! Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted November 4 Posted November 4 2 minutes ago, Dr. Holly Hills said: I didn’t see Anya on the bench either. Maybe I missed him though. They showed him at the beginning of the broadcast and discussed his redshirting to get a Masters. Dr. Holly Hills 1 Quote
ACE Posted November 4 Posted November 4 3 hours ago, slu72 said: I checked Mid Major rankings today. We were tied with Messphis at 7-8. I guess the American conference is now considered a mid. It is - usually gonna be a one bid league too. I’ve been beating the drum about the extinction of “mid majors.” It’s a term in danger of becoming obsolete. There’s a reason Memphis has desperately trying to buy there way into any multi bid P6 league that would take them. Quote
billikentakes Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Was great being back at Chaifetz today and it's nice when you can say the Bills didn't play their best yet still won by 25. Excited to see where the team goes from here after cleaning some things up. gabriel 1 Quote
WUH Posted November 4 Posted November 4 21 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: That's immaterial to the point that it is a hidden part of the NET calculation. The spread is not at all part of the NET. 2010andBeyond and billikenbill 2 Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted November 4 Posted November 4 2 minutes ago, WUH said: The spread is not at all part of the NET. Full circle. It's hidden within the NET metrics. Winning by larger margins helps. Explained by our very own Wiz previously, and this website below, and many others. https://bracketresearch.com/college-basketballs-net-rankings/#:~:text=Is Scoring Margin Considered in,team's adjusted net efficiency rating. "Is Scoring Margin Considered in the NET Rankings? Not explicitly. The original version of the NET used scoring margin, but the NCAA changed the inputs prior to the 2020-21 season. However, the NET still includes a team’s adjusted net efficiency rating. This rating calculates how many points a team scores on average on offense minus the number of points it allows on average on defense. Therefore, the NET still implicitly includes scoring margin. Of course, larger scoring margins will positively impact a team’s adjusted net efficiency rating." Old guy and The Wiz 2 Quote
WUH Posted November 4 Posted November 4 13 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: Full circle. It's hidden within the NET metrics. Winning by larger margins helps. Explained by our very own Wiz previously, and this website below, and many others. https://bracketresearch.com/college-basketballs-net-rankings/#:~:text=Is Scoring Margin Considered in,team's adjusted net efficiency rating. "Is Scoring Margin Considered in the NET Rankings? Not explicitly. The original version of the NET used scoring margin, but the NCAA changed the inputs prior to the 2020-21 season. However, the NET still includes a team’s adjusted net efficiency rating. This rating calculates how many points a team scores on average on offense minus the number of points it allows on average on defense. Therefore, the NET still implicitly includes scoring margin. Of course, larger scoring margins will positively impact a team’s adjusted net efficiency rating." Margin of victory and spread are two very different things, but OK, sure let's focus on the spread... Billikens need to do X over the spread every game, sure. billikenbill 1 Quote
cheeseman Posted November 4 Posted November 4 7 hours ago, Dr. Holly Hills said: I thought the lower bowl attendance was disappointing. We need to pump these numbers up! The problem with that is those tix are not the $5 ones so that probably is not realistic unless the team goes on a big run. At this point wherever they sit is better than not being there. Quote
billiken_roy Posted November 4 Posted November 4 the biggest issue with the lower bowl seats that are empty imo, is that in all likelihood they are highroller/booster season tix. the question should be, if they arent going, and they are the highroller big boosters seats, if they arent going cant they just give them away to fill the arena and just maybe they encourage someone to become a season ticket holder or even another booster? jonny karate 1 Quote
Billikenbooster Posted November 4 Posted November 4 KenPom went from 65 to 64 after this game! TheA_Bomb 1 Quote
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