slu92 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46787213/woodward-lsu-athletic-director-amid-landry-criticism So, LSU just fired their AD who is an alum, won multiple national championships in several sports and ultimately was held accountable for Brian Kelly’s contract/buyout. So, can somebody explain again how Chris May has kept his job for 18 years? No national championships, mbb has made ncaa tournament 4 times since he has been AD, 3 of those were Majerus’ teams, who he did not hire, wasted millions and millions on Crews and Ford, not to mention he’s profoundly dumb overall. How leadership doesn’t hold him accountable I just do not understand. HenryB, billikenbill and dennis_w 1 2
TheA_Bomb Posted October 31 Posted October 31 The LSU AD was the A&M AD responsible for Jimbo Fisher's record breaking buyout. This is his 2nd failed football hire and buyout over $50mil. Yeah he hired Mulkey and got a baseball championship but some F ups outshine the achievements. But I agree what the Hell? Why is May still here? I was hoping he'd retire with Pestello. Dude is an albatross around the Billiken's neck. dennis_w and HenryB 2
Lord Elrond Posted October 31 Posted October 31 7 hours ago, TheA_Bomb said: The LSU AD was the A&M AD responsible for Jimbo Fisher's record breaking buyout. This is his 2nd failed football hire and buyout over $50mil. Yeah he hired Mulkey and got a baseball championship but some F ups outshine the achievements. But I agree what the Hell? Why is May still here? I was hoping he'd retire with Pestello. Dude is an albatross around the Billiken's neck. This post is dead on accurate, in the SEC athletic success is measured by football success alone in the eyes of big money donors, what happens in other sports is nice but not all that relevant.
RyGuyBilliken Posted October 31 Posted October 31 17 minutes ago, Lord Elrond said: This post is dead on accurate, in the SEC athletic success is measured by football success alone in the eyes of big money donors, what happens in other sports is nice but not all that relevant. Doesn’t help that the Louisiana Governor came out and said he’d do everything in his power to block the AD from being in the selection committee for a new coach while also swearing not to make the same “mistake” in terms of the new coaches contract, when it’s going to require that exact same kind of contract to lure another high profile coach to LSU. If they’re not willing to give out a long-term deal with a ridiculous buyout to their next coach, I guess they can take their chances with a young coach out of the MAC or something. Drinkwitz has done a great job at Mizzou so far. But if they hire some offensive coordinator out of the MAC, their fans are gonna crucify them for it, and run the new coach out of town before they even have a chance to succeed. Brian Kelly was a god awful hire from the jump. But the contract wasn’t the issue
RyGuyBilliken Posted October 31 Posted October 31 I just looked it up for my own frame of reference. If, hypothetically, Mizzou fired Drinkwitz without cause on December 1st 2025, they’d still owe him almost $30 million, not just from a buyout, but because he’s guaranteed 75% of his future earnings in his contract, which is, I believe, a similar issue to what LSU is having firing Kelly. And the $30 million Mizzou would owe Drink is top-30 nationally, but only 9th in the SEC. Those types of contracts are just the price of doing business as a football school in the SEC
RyGuyBilliken Posted October 31 Posted October 31 https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/breaking-news/article/the-sordid-tale-of-lsu-football-the-louisiana-governor-and-a-years-long-feud-173500472.html Interesting article of everything that went down and the history between LSU’s former AD and Louisiana’s governor. Apparently a lot of people at LSU are pissed
Lord Elrond Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, RyGuyBilliken said: https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/breaking-news/article/the-sordid-tale-of-lsu-football-the-louisiana-governor-and-a-years-long-feud-173500472.html Interesting article of everything that went down and the history between LSU’s former AD and Louisiana’s governor. Apparently a lot of people at LSU are pissed They’re pissed because LSU didn’t win. If they got a national championship, all those same people would be the loudest cheerleaders at the parade, and the governor would be worried that the coach and AD would be after his job.
RyGuyBilliken Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Of course. But if you read that article in the link, the administration is at LSU are pissed about the governor’s public outbursts. Calling it an embarrassment. Now, as you can probably imagine, the governor of Louisiana has an ABSURD amount of power over what happens at LSU and can get away with things that us Billikens fans don’t need to worry about. But they quote a sports agent basically saying “Has no one told the governor to shut up yet? Do they not realize how badly he’s destroying their coaching search?” billikenbill 1
RyGuyBilliken Posted October 31 Posted October 31 @Lord Elrond Sorry that I kinda ranted in this thread. I wasn’t calling you out, or really even disagreeing with anything you’ve said. I just find the whole situation super interesting.
Lord Elrond Posted October 31 Posted October 31 36 minutes ago, RyGuyBilliken said: @Lord Elrond Sorry that I kinda ranted in this thread. I wasn’t calling you out, or really even disagreeing with anything you’ve said. I just find the whole situation super interesting. No problem, the whole thing is fascinating.
RyGuyBilliken Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Just now, Lord Elrond said: No problem, the whole thing is fascinating. I’m not getting political I promise, just explaining some revelations from the article. Apparently the former AD used to be a politician and has lightly more moderate views than Louisiana’s current governor lol. But the crazy thing is, the governor gets to appoint the entire board of trustees. That’s insane to me
brianstl Posted October 31 Posted October 31 The AD at LSU has caused the state to be on the hook for a $54 million buyout. This is after the state had to pay $17 million to fire Orgeron and pay a $3 million buyout to Notre Dame to hire Kelly. Taking the political party out of it, the Governor of any state should be taking action. dlarry 1
RyGuyBilliken Posted October 31 Posted October 31 30 minutes ago, brianstl said: The AD at LSU has caused the state to be on the hook for a $54 million buyout. This is after the state had to pay $17 million to fire Orgeron and pay a $3 million buyout to Notre Dame to hire Kelly. Taking the political party out of it, the Governor of any state should be taking action. The article I linked pretty clearly states that buyout is going to be paid by private donations, not the state of Louisiana, just like the vast majority of coach buyouts are, including Travis Ford’s. The state isn’t going to be on the hook for anything. The governor is running is mouth to get a guy he doesn’t like out of his way. And the school is going to end up paying the price for it.
TheA_Bomb Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Also not sure if you've been to Louisiana, they love LSU football, drinking a lot, and crawfish. I was surprised when LSU hired Woodward. He was a joke. 1 time years ago at UW he hired Chris Peterson, yeah he had a few non-football good hires but like I wrote previously 1 F up is enough. That's how I feel at SLU, not everything is bad but there's major (and many minor) F ups that are enough, to necessitate a change. Reminds me of a story. I once met a man named Pablo. He welcomed me to his city and pointed to these beautiful houses. He said, "You see those beautiful houses? I designed them, I built them; they will last for years after I'm gone. You think they'll call me, Pablo the House Builder? No." Then he pointed to this impressive bridge, all stone with ornate ironwork. He said, "You see that bridge taking people and cars safely across the water, you think they call me Pablo the Bridge Builder? No." He then pointed to an amazing church with a bell tower and flying buttresses. He said, "You see that church? It's visited by hundreds every week. You think they call me Pablo the Church Builder? No......but you F one goat!" SLU_Lax 1
RyGuyBilliken Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Just now, TheA_Bomb said: Also not sure if you've been to Louisiana, they love LSU football, drinking a lot, and crawfish. I was surprised when LSU hired Woodward. He was a joke. 1 time years ago at UW he hired Chris Peterson, yeah he had a few non-football good hires but like I wrote previously 1 F up is enough. That's how I feel at SLU, not everything is bad but there's major (and many minor) F ups that are enough, to necessitate a change. Hey, I’m not saying the AD didn’t deserve to be fired. He’s made some massive mistakes. I’m just saying the governor going public like he has is making the search for a new AD and a new coach infinitely harder.
TheA_Bomb Posted October 31 Posted October 31 12 minutes ago, RyGuyBilliken said: Hey, I’m not saying the AD didn’t deserve to be fired. He’s made some massive mistakes. I’m just saying the governor going public like he has is making the search for a new AD and a new coach infinitely harder. Eh maybe. It's LSU, it's the top job open right now. You can win a National Championship at LSU. I'm not sure that noise will affect a coach. The kinda people that excel at these top-flight jobs are Apex Predators, Competitors who have confidence in themselves and that they can win no matter what. Although it's a crazy carousel, UF, Penn State, LSU, Stanford, Oregon St., Colorado St., Arkansas, UAB, FAU, Oklahoma St., VA Tech there's some big time programs in there. My ranking which is completely subjective would be LSU, UF, Penn St, Arkansas, VA Tech as the top in that order. Other jobs that could open FSU, Auburn, Wisconsin. There are some dominoes that are about to fall; it's going to be interesting.
RyGuyBilliken Posted October 31 Posted October 31 47 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: Eh maybe. It's LSU, it's the top job open right now. You can win a National Championship at LSU. I'm not sure that noise will affect a coach. The kinda people that excel at these top-flight jobs are Apex Predators, Competitors who have confidence in themselves and that they can win no matter what. Although it's a crazy carousel, UF, Penn State, LSU, Stanford, Oregon St., Colorado St., Arkansas, UAB, FAU, Oklahoma St., VA Tech there's some big time programs in there. My ranking which is completely subjective would be LSU, UF, Penn St, Arkansas, VA Tech as the top in that order. Other jobs that could open FSU, Auburn, Wisconsin. There are some dominoes that are about to fall; it's going to be interesting. For sure. LSU is gonna get a coach. But it might them a top coach’s 3rd choice. But you’re right. LSU isn’t gonna settle for a nobody
OkieBilliken Posted October 31 Posted October 31 50 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: Eh maybe. It's LSU, it's the top job open right now. You can win a National Championship at LSU. I'm not sure that noise will affect a coach. The kinda people that excel at these top-flight jobs are Apex Predators, Competitors who have confidence in themselves and that they can win no matter what. Although it's a crazy carousel, UF, Penn State, LSU, Stanford, Oregon St., Colorado St., Arkansas, UAB, FAU, Oklahoma St., VA Tech there's some big time programs in there. My ranking which is completely subjective would be LSU, UF, Penn St, Arkansas, VA Tech as the top in that order. Other jobs that could open FSU, Auburn, Wisconsin. There are some dominoes that are about to fall; it's going to be interesting. The funny thing about the LSU job is that Brian Kelly is by all accounts really massive tool. His players didnt seem to be unhappy or fazed at all that he was gone. The media hated him. I am still not sure why he received so little blowback for being responsible for that kid's death in South Bend. Moral of the story is if you are going to be a tremendous pr**k to everybody, you better be really freaking good at your job. It would be amusing if they coax another Notre Dame coach away. Apparently Marcus Freeman is their #1 target.
BIG BILL FAN Posted October 31 Posted October 31 15 hours ago, slu92 said: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46787213/woodward-lsu-athletic-director-amid-landry-criticism So, LSU just fired their AD who is an alum, won multiple national championships in several sports and ultimately was held accountable for Brian Kelly’s contract/buyout. So, can somebody explain again how Chris May has kept his job for 18 years? No national championships, mbb has made ncaa tournament 4 times since he has been AD, 3 of those were Majerus’ teams, who he did not hire, wasted millions and millions on Crews and Ford, not to mention he’s profoundly dumb overall. How leadership doesn’t hold him accountable I just do not understand. Just a ridiculous statement. You’re really trying to compare the SLU athletic department to LSU’s??? You and your likes will never be taken seriously with idiotic comments like that. willie, Billikenbooster and slu92 2 1
slu92 Posted October 31 Author Posted October 31 4 hours ago, brianstl said: The AD at LSU has caused the state to be on the hook for a $54 million buyout. This is after the state had to pay $17 million to fire Orgeron and pay a $3 million buyout to Notre Dame to hire Kelly. Taking the political party out of it, the Governor of any state should be taking action. Agree. Then by that line of thinking giving Crews and Ford millions and millions that the school doesn’t have for terrible basketball over the last decade should be grounds to fire Chris May. Didn’t Ford get like $20 million to just go away?
slu92 Posted October 31 Author Posted October 31 1 hour ago, BIG BILL FAN said: Just a ridiculous statement. You’re really trying to compare the SLU athletic department to LSU’s??? You and your likes will never be taken seriously with idiotic comments like that. What’s ridiculous and idiotic is your defending of Chris May. We get you are one of his only friends and that’s awesome. I give LSU credit for holding their AD accountable. SLU needs to do the same. If you really think going to NCAA tournament only 1 time (by total luck) in last ten years is acceptable, then you can’t be taken seriously. The other 3 times we went to NCAA were because of Majerus, who May didn’t hire. Keep defending Chris May, you are doing as good of job being his message board Angel as he is at being AD! Last 18 years have really been awesome for sure. Really committed to winning at highest levels. Who believes this besides BBF and Henry B who post on behalf of this insecure, idiot of an AD who reads this message board like a teenage girl on Snapchat 24/7. lol
slu92 Posted October 31 Author Posted October 31 The bar for LSU is national championships, the very low bar for SLU realistically is just making an NCAA once every three years or so at the very minimum. Not being Gonzaga or Duke folks. If I’m wrong tell me. Think of it this way, the SLU AD should only be judged by MBB NCAA appearances. Not women’s or even men’s soccer, softball gpa, track and field top 10 finishes, baseball A10 championships, community service work by students, wbb NIT championships, facilities….NCAA appearances. 18 years as AD and 4 NCAA trips….3 were by Majerus teams he had zero involvement with, less than zero. Fine give Chris May 4/18 NCAA years…22% success rate. What other job keeps a manager around only hitting his main goal 22% of tenure? On top of blowing millions and millions of dollars on two terrible head coaching hires, while rest of university is laying people off. Defend that track record. You simply can’t. Take the Majerus NCAA years out of it, Chris May is 1 for 15 years he had actual influence and that’s a 6% to plan grade. What a great steward of SLU Athletics. HenryB and dennis_w 2
BIG BILL FAN Posted October 31 Posted October 31 50 minutes ago, slu92 said: What’s ridiculous and idiotic is your defending of Chris May. We get you are one of his only friends and that’s awesome. I give LSU credit for holding their AD accountable. SLU needs to do the same. If you really think going to NCAA tournament only 1 time (by total luck) in last ten years is acceptable, then you can’t be taken seriously. The other 3 times we went to NCAA were because of Majerus, who May didn’t hire. Keep defending Chris May, you are doing as good of job being his message board Angel as he is at being AD! Last 18 years have really been awesome for sure. Really committed to winning at highest levels. Who believes this besides BBF and Henry B who post on behalf of this insecure, idiot of an AD who reads this message board like a teenage girl on Snapchat 24/7. lol I didn’t mention May in my post. My point is you’re an obsessed clown, with a severe case of MDS…. Now let’s enjoy this season, with a stacked lineup ( payed for by a generous NIL) and a promising head coach hired by that man who keeps you up late at night.
Lord Elrond Posted October 31 Posted October 31 3 hours ago, OkieBilliken said: The funny thing about the LSU job is that Brian Kelly is by all accounts really massive tool. His players didnt seem to be unhappy or fazed at all that he was gone. The media hated him. I am still not sure why he received so little blowback for being responsible for that kid's death in South Bend. Moral of the story is if you are going to be a tremendous pr**k to everybody, you better be really freaking good at your job. It would be amusing if they coax another Notre Dame coach away. Apparently Marcus Freeman is their #1 target. It’s interesting how when a hire doesn’t work out at a place like LSU, the solution is to keep doing the same thing which led to the current firing.
Brighton Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Quote Also not sure if you've been to Louisiana, they love LSU football, drinking a lot, and crawfish. Yup. Probably more than the Saints and definitely the Pelicans.
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