HoosierPal Posted August 3 Posted August 3 Schertz' interview starts at 25:30. He speaks a lot of the collective depth of this team being the best he has ever had...playmaking, shooting, physicality, size and speed are dramatically different than last year's squad. This has been mentioned before, but last season he came here April 8. This year he was done recruiting by April 13. Individual parts this year are better than last year. Robbie is in the best shape of his college career. Ackerman asked about Dion Brown. We have a team full of guys that can guard, but Dion Brown is as good an on ball defender as Schertz has coached. He brings positive energy every day. Didn't have a guy with the constant competitive fire last season that Dion brings this year. He is right there with Quentin, Amari and Kellen on getting downhill. He was second to Paul this summer in offensive rebounds. Another player Ackerman asked about was Sharma. Schertz recruited him at ISU. His is a high level shooter. Fits systematically with what they want to do. For the summer Sharma (and Green) have made more three's than any players on Schertz past 6 or 7 summers. Not going to play 11 guys in a game, but can go 9 deep and deeper if need be. Old guy, dennis_w, RiseOfTheBillikens and 3 others 6 Quote
Aquinas Posted August 3 Posted August 3 Coach compared Ishan to Gibby. Ishan and Trey both shot over 40% in live play. Quote
slu72 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Depth is nice to have. However, in today’s world it also causes a problem. If a player is only getting 15-20mpg to display his talent he’s likely going to test the portal waters. I believe 4 of our new guys came from P5/6 schools because of limited playing time. That’s great for us this year but the table could easily be turned against us come April. Coach314 1 Quote
HoosierPal Posted August 4 Author Posted August 4 Depth is nice to have. However, in today’s world it also causes a problem. If a player is only getting 15-20mpg to display his talent he’s likely going to test the portal waters. I believe 4 of our new guys came from P5/6 schools because of limited playing time. That’s great for us this year but the table could easily be turned against us come April. Yep. We all are interested in the rotation, how many get regular double digit minutes, and who finishes games. Yesterday Schertz said he can go 9 deep, but more if needed. So is 9 the magic number? For me it is tough to guess who isn't in the 9. With a reported abundance of offensive power, defense might be a deciding factor in increased playing time. Sure we will have guys jump into the portal, but Schertz now has 'some' money to pay the ones he wants to keep. For this season's squad, Schertz said he paid the returners first, the transfers second and the freshmen third. As Schertz also said yesterday, November can't get here soon enough. Quote
SLUMS81 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 If our gifted scorers have to earn playing time based on their defensive intensity, we will be that much better of a team. deltalucas, cgeldmacher and HoosierPal 3 Quote
cheeseman Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Depth is nice to have. However, in today’s world it also causes a problem. If a player is only getting 15-20mpg to display his talent he’s likely going to test the portal waters. I believe 4 of our new guys came from P5/6 schools because of limited playing time. That’s great for us this year but the table could easily be turned against us come April. So what is the alternative - not recruit for depth? I know that is not what you mean but I really am not sure what your point was. Quote
slu72 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 So what is the alternative - not recruit for depth? I know that is not what you mean but I really am not sure what your point was. Just that sizable roster turnover is to be expected every season for every team. I like depth as you need it over a 6 month season. But today it’s virtually impossible to keep every player in a 10 man rotation happy enough to stick around for the long term. Quote
WUH Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Depth is nice to have. I fixed it for you... Dr. Holly Hills 1 Quote
Aquinas Posted August 4 Posted August 4 It's a new era. 1 or 2 players will likely be injured, 1 or 2 freshmen will likely red shirt and 1 or 2 transfers will stop playing to maintain the year of eligibility. While we MBM watch from a distance, the players know where they are in the pecking order. A year of eligibility can be worth a lot to these players. So while we have 15 available scholarship players now, we won't 11 games into the season. Quote
Dr. Holly Hills Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Depth is nice to have. However, in today’s world it also causes a problem. If a player is only getting 15-20mpg to display his talent he’s likely going to test the portal waters. I believe 4 of our new guys came from P5/6 schools because of limited playing time. That’s great for us this year but the table could easily be turned against us come April. Slow down, dude. We haven’t even started the current season yet. Quote
cheeseman Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Just that sizable roster turnover is to be expected every season for every team. I like depth as you need it over a 6 month season. But today it’s virtually impossible to keep every player in a 10 man rotation happy enough to stick around for the long term. Rather obvious Quote
SLUfan_42 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Seems pretty night and day compared to last year. We couldn’t find a reliable 7th. Now there’s not enough room. If faced with 2 options, it’s the latter every time Quote
Box and Won Posted August 5 Posted August 5 Slow down, dude. We haven’t even started the current season yet. It's okay to be happy about things. Dr. Holly Hills 1 Quote
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted August 5 Posted August 5 Schertz on 101.1 this morning. Talking about champions center and eating healthier there. Specifically mentioned that he pays for his meals because "Chris is probably listening" and he doesn't want his paycheck to be hit. Money must be getting tight in billiken land. Guess it makes sense. Chris wasting millions on head coaches is fine but can't have your head coach get a meal. Don't worry Coach we don't like him either. BIG BILL FAN, wgstl and HenryB 1 2 Quote
BIG BILL FAN Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Schertz on 101.1 this morning. Talking about champions center and eating healthier there. Specifically mentioned that he pays for his meals because "Chris is probably listening" and he doesn't want his paycheck to be hit. Money must be getting tight in billiken land. Guess it makes sense. Chris wasting millions on head coaches is fine but can't have your head coach get a meal. Don't worry Coach we don't like him either. You’re pathetic… RiseOfTheBillikens 1 Quote
Popular Post HoosierPal Posted August 6 Author Popular Post Posted August 6 More on the Aug 5 101.1 Interview. Rise didn't think 99% the interview was worth passing on. I found it interesting. Coach was very complimentary of the Champions Center training table, as they make sure the nutrition is correct for the players. He doesn't know what was done before, but the set up there is as good as anywhere else. He would be in favor of putting limits on transfers; one free, one if your coach changes, and then one if/after you graduate. But it will be hard putting the cat back into the bag. He doesn't think the current system is sustainable and won't be this way in 24 to 36 months. Tampering is rampant in college. Tampering happens immediately after the season starts. If you have a player who starts out a season hot, the tampering directly or indirectly starts. Starts as early as November. By February, guys know if they are staying or leaving because of all the back channeling. Talked of a Big 12 school talking to Robbie during last season and talking big money. They went directly to him, not through back channels. Most schools go through the players circle to tell them about their offers. You can see players with a foot out the door in January/Feb. You see players with agendas late in the seasons, trying to raise their market value. College basketball has the lowest % of teams into the tourney, of any other NCAA sports. He is in favor of tourney expansion. Margin of error for Mids is incredibly small. High majors will play other High Majors or Quad 4's. Major's see no need to put themselves out there. He wants 76. Even 2 more None Power 4 teams in an expanded tourney is worth expanding the field. MTE opportunities for Q1 games are going away next year for Mid Major's. High Majors will play other High Majors in tourney set ups. Schertz certainly would want to be in the Big East if asked. SLU's existing resources, infrastructure, facilities, the market, all that stuff matters to possible expansion, is already here. SLU made a significant jump in NIL from last season to this season. To keep your team together, year after year, you have to have bottomless financial resources. We have to have continuity with players to get to a national level. Players have to have ownership and not be looking for the next bigger paycheck. https://www.101espn.com/episode/slu-head-basketball-coach-josh-schertz-2 SLUMedBilliken15, RiseOfTheBillikens, slu72 and 8 others 10 1 Quote
brianstl Posted August 6 Posted August 6 SLU made a significant jump in NIL from last season to this season. To keep your team together, year after year, you have to have bottomless financial resources. We have to have continuity with players to get to a national level. Players have to have ownership and not be looking for the next bigger paycheck. I love coach, but all coaches are hypocrites when it comes to this. They all say stuff like this, I just cringe every single time a coach says it. VeniceMenace 1 Quote
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted August 6 Posted August 6 You’re pathetic… Chris May still being AD is pathetic. The fact I can't quickly find Chris Mays podcast on YouTube to post how pathetic the views count number is, is pathetic. The amount of success our basketball team has had recently compared to other similarly funded A10 teams is pathetic. Our student/ general fan support is also pathetic. The outreach, benefits, experience provided to season ticket members is pathetic. The experience for those who travel to watch SLU play has been pathetic. I can go on but I'll just let it go. Have a good day Mr. May or Mr. Ford or relative. Oh I thought of another one. Our men's basketball schedule is pathetic. HenryB and TheA_Bomb 1 1 Quote
VeniceMenace Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Chris May still being AD is pathetic. The fact I can't quickly find Chris Mays podcast on YouTube to post how pathetic the views count number is, is pathetic. The amount of success our basketball team has had recently compared to other similarly funded A10 teams is pathetic. Our student/ general fan support is also pathetic. The outreach, benefits, experience provided to season ticket members is pathetic. The experience for those who travel to watch SLU play has been pathetic. I can go on but I'll just let it go. Have a good day Mr. May or Mr. Ford or relative. Oh I thought of another one. Our men's basketball schedule is pathetic. Is the PA announcer retiring yet? RiseOfTheBillikens 1 Quote
Cowboy Posted August 6 Posted August 6 More on the Aug 5 101.1 Interview. Rise didn't think 99% the interview was worth passing on. I found it interesting. Coach was very complimentary of the Champions Center training table, as they make sure the nutrition is correct for the players. He doesn't know what was done before, but the set up there is as good as anywhere else. He would be in favor of putting limits on transfers; one free, one if your coach changes, and then one if/after you graduate. But it will be hard putting the cat back into the bag. He doesn't think the current system is sustainable and won't be this way in 24 to 36 months. Tampering is rampant in college. Tampering happens immediately after the season starts. If you have a player who starts out a season hot, the tampering directly or indirectly starts. Starts as early as November. By February, guys know if they are staying or leaving because of all the back channeling. Talked of a Big 12 school talking to Robbie during last season and talking big money. They went directly to him, not through back channels. Most schools go through the players circle to tell them about their offers. You can see players with a foot out the door in January/Feb. You see players with agendas late in the seasons, trying to raise their market value. College basketball has the lowest % of teams into the tourney, of any other NCAA sports. He is in favor of tourney expansion. Margin of error for Mids is incredibly small. High majors will play other High Majors or Quad 4's. Major's see no need to put themselves out there. He wants 76. Even 2 more None Power 4 teams in an expanded tourney is worth expanding the field. MTE opportunities for Q1 games are going away next year for Mid Major's. High Majors will play other High Majors in tourney set ups. Schertz certainly would want to be in the Big East if asked. SLU's existing resources, infrastructure, facilities, the market, all that stuff matters to possible expansion, is already here. SLU made a significant jump in NIL from last season to this season. To keep your team together, year after year, you have to have bottomless financial resources. We have to have continuity with players to get to a national level. Players have to have ownership and not be looking for the next bigger paycheck. https://www.101espn.com/episode/slu-head-basketball-coach-josh-schertz-2 -on tampering, what is the opinion of the Board on SLU going public on it? I see pros and cons but perhaps the biggest con is that the NCAA would likely do nothing about it so why bother -is there a coach who is against tourney expansion? I would be shocked if there is -with his comment on MTE's we are seeing the golden rule in action Quote
thetorch Posted August 6 Posted August 6 If we go public on tampering we really won't be able to schedule anybody. What Schertz should do is leak it to the media and have a reporter who wants to get eyes on his podcast or blog run with it. dlarry 1 Quote
Westy03 Posted August 7 Posted August 7 I wouldn’t be surprised if we tampered with Paul through back channels brianstl and HoosierPal 2 Quote
Old guy Posted August 7 Posted August 7 To keep your team together, year after year, you have to have bottomless financial resources. We have to have continuity with players to get to a national level. https://www.101espn.com/episode/slu-head-basketball-coach-josh-schertz-2 I fully agree that school will have to have sources of bottomless financial resources to stay playing D1 sports. Do you have any idea how difficult it is or will be to develop bottomless financial resources, particularly at this point in time? Do you think that the news report the truth? They cannot be reporting the truth since the news coming from the right are very different than the news coming from the left. I do not think all the truth is owned by either side. How do you choose who is right? Do you have any idea how difficult it is becoming to make money by trading the market? I think that at some point in time even the wealthiest donors we have may begin to feel financial strain or may develop interest in other activities that they sponsor. SLU is not in bad financial shape, but I do not think they have now or will have in the foreseeable future a source of bottomless financial resources. Quote
Pistol Posted August 7 Posted August 7 I wouldn’t be surprised if we tampered with Paul through back channels Back channels = Chaifetz arena hallways Quote
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