Schedule - 2025-2026

[wgstl]

2 hours ago, Lord Elrond said:

Who are they playing, and where?

MTE with BYU, Gtown, and Miami. 

They also have @ Marquette, not sure if they play cinci again. 

[cheeseman]

1 hour ago, Brighton said:

Uh huh.

Meanwhile, VCU and Dayton, two programs SLU tries to aspire to be or so they say, have put together a schedule that features one or two P4 programs.

SLU is the undisputed champion when it comes to excuse making.

 

I get your point but honestly I am not sure how you schedule will do mid majors a lot of good.  If they are determined to make the Dance a P5 event then that is what will happen no matter who you play or what your ranking is.  A handful may make it in but the odds are pretty slim for mid majors.  The deck just seems to be stacked against you.  

[billikenfan05]

25 minutes ago, cheeseman said:

I get your point but honestly I am not sure how you schedule will do mid majors a lot of good.  If they are determined to make the Dance a P5 event then that is what will happen no matter who you play or what your ranking is.  A handful may make it in but the odds are pretty slim for mid majors.  The deck just seems to be stacked against you.  

Also unfortunately correct 

[Lord Elrond]

1 hour ago, wgstl said:

MET with BYU, Gtown, and Miami. 

They also have @ Marquette, not sure if they play cinci again. 

Thanks for the info!

[wgstl]

33 minutes ago, Lord Elrond said:

Thanks for the info!

UD has a brand, they are an exception for MM and putting together a good OOC.   We just gotta win more.. 

[Lord Elrond]

What I’d like to see is the St Louis area tourism board sponsor an annual event, MIZZOU vs SLU in the Enterprise Center, or maybe their own MTE. Bring in some tourist dollars and help SLU out with scheduling.  I’ll wish for a pony next. Oh well.

[ACE]

2 hours ago, cheeseman said:

I get your point but honestly I am not sure how you schedule will do mid majors a lot of good.  If they are determined to make the Dance a P5 event then that is what will happen no matter who you play or what your ranking is.  A handful may make it in but the odds are pretty slim for mid majors.  The deck just seems to be stacked against you.  

Bingo! Schertz and ISU played Alabama and Michigan State in the non-conference in the season they had a NET 28 and that STILL wasn't good enough to get an at large.

[Lord Elrond]

1 minute ago, ACE said:

Bingo! Schertz and ISU played Alabama and Michigan State in the non-conference in the season they had a NET 28 and that STILL wasn't good enough to get an at large.

Valid point. 

[gabriel]

27 minutes ago, ACE said:

Bingo! Schertz and ISU played Alabama and Michigan State in the non-conference in the season they had a NET 28 and that STILL wasn't good enough to get an at large.

They also lost both of those games

[wgstl]

7 minutes ago, gabriel said:

They also lost both of those games

And one of those by a lot. Something tells me had they played Bama to around a 10 point loss that may have changed things. 

[ACE]

43 minutes ago, wgstl said:

And one of those by a lot. Something tells me had they played Bama to around a 10 point loss that may have changed things. 

It was the second game of the season, on the road and Avila did not play due to injury.

Do you think a a P5 school with a NET of 28 would have been forgiven for such a loss under those circumstances? Absolutely, they would have. I seriously doubt ISU losing by 10 would've have changed anything. The Committee would just have another excuse ready.

 

[cheeseman]

2 hours ago, Lord Elrond said:

What I’d like to see is the St Louis area tourism board sponsor an annual event, MIZZOU vs SLU in the Enterprise Center, or maybe their own MTE. Bring in some tourist dollars and help SLU out with scheduling.  I’ll wish for a pony next. Oh well.

That was tried after our 3 game series with MO expired.   MO wanted nothing to do with it again.  They were even offered I think - correct me if I am wrong but something like a Million to play - not sure if that was for both teams or not.

[cgeldmacher]

22 hours ago, Lord Elrond said:

What I’d like to see is the St Louis area tourism board sponsor an annual event, MIZZOU vs SLU in the Enterprise Center, or maybe their own MTE. Bring in some tourist dollars and help SLU out with scheduling.  I’ll wish for a pony next. Oh well.

I've been saying this for years.  It should be the St. Louis Sports Commission that puts it on.  Doesn't have to include SLU or Mizzou or Illinois every year.  Just have it.  Kansas City has been doing an MTE like this for decades.

[willie]

1 hour ago, cgeldmacher said:

I've been saying this for years.  It should be the St. Louis Sports Commission that puts it on.  Doesn't have to include SLU or Mizzou or Illinois every year.  Just have it.  Kansas City has been doing an MTE like this for decades.

The sports commission is very much into Mizzou. Don't know if Schreiber or his predecessor  Frank V are Mo grads. 

[juniorbill76]

4 hours ago, willie said:

The sports commission is very much into Mizzou. Don't know if Schreiber or his predecessor  Frank V are Mo grads. 

They do host a night at the Billikens for members every year, with a short talk from the AD and coach. So at least there's some awareness.

[HoosierPal]

Interesting note on Davidson.  They have an away game scheduled at Kansas.  No mention of a return game at Davidson College or even in Charlotte at a N site.  So is this the future of Mid-Majors attempting to schedule P5 schools, one way tickets? 

Would you be in favor of SLU scheduling away only game(s) v P5?

 

[shempie]

Apologies if this is redundant but a listing of more of the participants for the Acrisure Series plus TV info.

IOWA CITY, Iowa – The University of Iowa men’s basketball program will compete in the 2025 Acrisure Series on Nov. 25 and Nov. 26 in Palm Desert, California, it was announced Monday by Total Sports Consulting.  The event will be played at Acrisure Arena. 

The Hawkeyes will play two games against a loaded field. Confirmed teams for the event include: Colorado, Minnesota, Utah, Stanford, Washington, San Francisco, Santa Clara, San Jose State, California Baptist, San Diego, Nevada, Loyola (Illinois), Tulsa and Northern Iowa.

The schedule for the tournament is still being finalized as pods and matchups will be announced at a later date.

All games will be televised on TNT Sports, truTV or MAX.

Iowa to Play in 2025 Acrisure Series - Iowa Hawkeyes Athletics - Official Athletics Website

[Pistol]

3 hours ago, HoosierPal said:

Interesting note on Davidson.  They have an away game scheduled at Kansas.  No mention of a return game at Davidson College or even in Charlotte at a N site.  So is this the future of Mid-Majors attempting to schedule P5 schools, one way tickets? 

Would you be in favor of SLU scheduling away only game(s) v P5?

As one-season plugs when we need competitive games, yes. As an ongoing scheduling practice, no.

I would absolutely take a quality road game at a P5 school this season, with the hope being that SLU is strong enough this year to get better games on the schedule next season and not in a position where we'd have to take one-off road games like that.

[shempie]

38 minutes ago, Pistol said:

As one-season plugs when we need competitive games, yes. As an ongoing scheduling practice, no.

I would absolutely take a quality road game at a P5 school this season, with the hope being that SLU is strong enough this year to get better games on the schedule next season and not in a position where we'd have to take one-off road games like that.

I would agree but I think it is even more nuamced than that. I would think a one off game against a top ACC, SEC, B12, or B10 team would be desirable. Not sure I would feel the same if it was St. John's or UConn. For some reason they feel a little closer in the pecking order to SLU. Or am I nuts?

[ACE]

4 hours ago, HoosierPal said:

Interesting note on Davidson.  They have an away game scheduled at Kansas.  No mention of a return game at Davidson College or even in Charlotte at a N site.  So is this the future of Mid-Majors attempting to schedule P5 schools, one way tickets? 

Would you be in favor of SLU scheduling away only game(s) v P5?

 

I don't think it's the "future" - it's pretty much the present. For Davidson, getting a home game against St. Mary's is excellent and realistically about the best a program like us could hope for in today's environment.

 

[TheChosenOne]

2 minutes ago, ACE said:

I don't think it's the "future" - it's pretty much the present. For Davidson, getting a home game against St. Mary's is excellent and realistically about the best a program like us could hope for in today's environment.

Correct, I think this has become the reality for a few seasons now. It is becoming increasingly difficult to get power conference programs to play you on your home court. And I think fans of those programs would blast their coach if they saw their team playing a game at SLU. It is the unfortunate reality at this point. Candidly, I am not sure what the solution is or how programs like SLU should schedule. I hate it.

[BLIKNS]

This is why I like a 20 game conference schedule... P4/5 schools won't schedule us, makes fewer OOC games ( no more Avila and William Woods please).

If we are a Juan bid league, why not add 1 or 2 , get to  15 or 16. Maybe a better chance to get a second bid, at least . 

Would like to see College of Charleston get an invite.. (2) Wichita State or Belmont.

Perhaps even look into Northeastern( Boston market) or UNC- Wilmington.   They fit geographically , and metropolitan.   

Anyway, summer ,thoughts?

[Taj79]

All one has to do is look at the past few seasons at Dayton.

Last year, Dayton played at home against Northwestern, then went to Maui for the MTE with Uconn, North Carolina and Iowa State.  They then got a luck home-and-home with Marquette and a regional game with Cincinnati on a neutral floor.  Without the MTE, the schedule is similar to what Davidson is doing now.

The year prior, Dayton went to Northwestern repaid the following year.  They then used another MTE to meet LSU, St. John's and Houston in Charleston.  After that, a close out with SMU and another neutral site game with Cincinnati.  Xavier won't play them.

In 22-23, an opener with SMU, and another MTE, the battle for Atlantis with Wisconsin, NC State and BYU.  Finally, a one-off game with Virginia Tech.

In 21-22, it's the ESPN Invitational with Kansas, Belmont and Miami of Florida, augmented by home-and-homes with SMU and Virginia Tech withe a one-off at Ole Miss.

20-21: COVID.

19-20: Maui.  

18-19: Battle for Atlantis.

17-18: Charleston Classic.

16-17: Wooden Legacy.

Prior to doing this research, I didn't realize how popular and accepted Dayton is in MTE circles.  You can debate why that is so ..... a decent high mid-major, fans that will travel, whatever.  And they win those games.  Beat North Carolina and Iowa State this year; LSU and St .John's the previous year.  Our neutral site games are Santa Clara, we played one game in the Hall of Fame Classic and got pounded by Wichita State.  Our home-and-homes are Loyola Marymount, San Francisco and Grand Canyon, not SMU, Marquette or Northwestern.  

Dayton's other games are essentially shite but that's how it works.  Win all the shite games, upset one or two biggees, and your rep grows.  I thought we were moving there with CTF what with the Mohegan Sun tourney, Phoenix Classic and the Y2K MTE but CTF's crash in 23-24 set us back to square one.  

if it's not Dayton we need to pass, then it is VCU.  They've been in the Charleston Classic, the ESPN Invitational and the Legends Classic the last three years.  The Myrtle Beach Invitational and some of the other MTEs don't cut the same cloth.

[HoosierPal]

 

[billikentakes]

1 hour ago, HoosierPal said:

 

The Memphis series from a few seasons ago always seemed like a good move, would like to see it return in the future hopefully