wgstl Posted September 7, 2024 Posted September 7, 2024 2 hours ago, slu72 said: It’s not going to be any easier for Porter in the SEC. SEC hoops is on the rise. Not saying I disagree but Rick Barnes is about done, auburn is tbd without Bruce and Cal is also 65. Those three will be out soon. Quote
slu72 Posted September 8, 2024 Author Posted September 8, 2024 Billikens come in chilly at 59, 3rd in A10, and NIT bound. I thought we’d be in the 50-40 range. But this list has never been a good predictor save for the top 20 or so. We shall see soon enough. 3rd gets us a bye in DC which is good. Going to be interesting to see where UD and VCU place. Quote
73Billiken Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 With a ranking of 59, there is at least some degree of relevance. The season can't start soon enough. BLIKNS 1 Quote
Aquinas Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 It's a reasonable projection with so many new players. The truth is that there isn't a whole lot of difference between a 30 ranking and 59. I looked back at a Sagarin listing and it is basically one 3 point basket per game. slu72 and billiken_roy 2 Quote
slu72 Posted September 8, 2024 Author Posted September 8, 2024 I wasn’t surprised by this ranking, but I figured we’d rank higher than UD since Holmes has departed. Quote
wgstl Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 So between T-rank, this, and the almanac we have an average ranking of 64th Quote
CenHudDude Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 Will the board consider a berth in the NIT as as a step in the right direction, or a total failure? Quote
willie Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 Failure. Dance or bust. With Swope and Jimmer as seniors we need to dance. HoosierPal, billiken_roy, MusicCityBilliken and 5 others 8 Quote
Wendelprof Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 So long as there is improvement in the program, it will be a good year. We need to get the program moving in the right direction again. It has plenty of preseason momentum. Let's just enjoy the ride and support the new coach and players. Best to judge the season after it is over. cgeldmacher 1 Quote
billiken_roy Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 4 hours ago, CenHudDude said: Will the board consider a berth in the NIT as as a step in the right direction, or a total failure? The NIT is no longer relevant. Quote
Lord Elrond Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 24 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: The NIT is no longer relevant. Correct. For example, no one fills out a bracket for the NIT because no one likes a NIT-picker… someoneelse, CenHudDude and willie 3 Quote
White Pelican Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 3 hours ago, Lord Elrond said: Correct. For example, no one fills out a bracket for the NIT because no one likes a NIT-picker… See yourself out... Quote
slu72 Posted September 9, 2024 Author Posted September 9, 2024 For a rebuilding program like the Bills the NIT, while not a fan favorite, is good training for next season. BLIKNS 1 Quote
Dr Bird Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 NCAA or bust for me. I bet Coach Schertz would say the same. GoSluBills, HoosierPal, billiken_roy and 2 others 5 Quote
Taj79 Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 @slu72: not when you are losing Jimerson, Swope and Johnson. That could be 60% of your starters. MusicCityBilliken 1 Quote
HoosierPal Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 55 minutes ago, Taj79 said: @slu72: not when you are losing Jimerson, Swope and Johnson. That will be 60% of your starters. And 66% of your proven long range shooters. The portal is going to be huge for Schertz next off season. Quote
MusicCityBilliken Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 57 minutes ago, Taj79 said: @slu72: not when you are losing Jimerson, Swope and Johnson. That could be 60% of your starters. Agree, with Avila, Swope and Jimmerson on the floor together, this is no rebuilding year. They got to produce this season. Quote
3star_recruit Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 I thought the whole point of Coach Schertz was to bring in a coach that is fundamentally sound, is committed to a style of play and constructs his rosters accordingly. I thought it was the way he does business that would be the bedrock of our success, not whether there are three seniors on the roster in any given year. almaman 1 Quote
willie Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 1 hour ago, 3star_recruit said: I thought the whole point of Coach Schertz was to bring in a coach that is fundamentally sound, is committed to a style of play and constructs his rosters accordingly. I thought it was the way he does business that would be the bedrock of our success, not whether there are three seniors on the roster in any given year. I agree with what you are saying but you are missing the point of the original question. Would you be satisfied with the NIT? For this year the answer is no. Quote
Taj79 Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 The question also centered on if playing extra games would benefit the team the following year. My answer is no, not with three seniors. And with the constant changeover and turmoil with NIL and the portal, who knows what you've got until you've got it. Quote
3star_recruit Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 CenHudDude asked if an NIT berth would be a step in the right direction. Sure, this team was horrible last season. An NIT berth would mean we've experienced one of the greatest turnarounds in Billiken history. My assumption is that the overall skill level of Coach Schertz's team 2 years from now will be higher than it is now. That's been the track record everywhere he's been. brianstl 1 Quote
Taj79 Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 I was responding to slu72's comment on an NIT bid being training for next season. As for CenHudDude's question ..... I don't see how such a record and'/or bid would NOT be a step in the right direction but I want more. Quote
Lord Elrond Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 We ended last season ranked #197 in NET. It’s hard not to see where a jump in over 100 places in NET, which is what a NIT bid would mean, is not an improvement. Quote
billiken_roy Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 Right now it seems to me with the NiL every year every team will be starting over. Building a team seems like the past to me MusicCityBilliken 1 Quote
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