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6 hours ago, WVBilliken said:

Other than Jimerson thinking the starting lineup will be wide open.  The transfers didn't come to SLU to be backups.  Should be an interesting competition.  

And the returning players aren’t returning to sit on the bench. First time in years the starting lineup will be decided in practice. As you said, Jimerson is the only lock, right now. 

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7 hours ago, dlarry said:

I hope that’s not the starting line up. 
 

Yuri, Perkins, Jimerson, Picket, Okoro > Cian, Hughes, Jimerson, Hargrove, Ezewiro.

And I think by a rather large margin. 
 

IMO We need Noland and Parker to earn starting spots. 
 

But I do feel better about the team today than I did a month ago. 
 

 

 

 

I forgot about Noland.  Yea, LHjr as 6th man then.  I expect next to nothing from Parker.  
 

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9 hours ago, HoosierPal said:

 

(Thanks for the civil back and forth discussion.  If you do find something on the 'runoff issue' that is new for2023/24 season, I would be interested.  If not, then what the NCAA has published is the springboard for moving forward.)

The following article isn't new but the rules are still in effect.  Hopefully , it will make the 1st article a little clearer and explain why Ezewiro and 3 other teammates on GT were all allowed to file for a 2nd transfer on an exception....The key phrase is "if the coach is fired , you have 30 days to file for the portal."

I bolded the key phrase at the end of the article. The coach firing rule is still in effect as of  today. 

NCAA changes rules for transfers

 
Photo+courtesy+of+the+NCAA%2FWikipedia+Commons+
 

Photo courtesy of the NCAA/Wikipedia Commons

Katrina Villarreal, Staff Reporter
September 20, 2022

The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) announced Wednesday, Aug. 31, that it has made changes to the transfer rules for student-athletes to be able to receive fi nancial aid at their next school, continuing until graduation without interruption.

Adjustments made to the transfer rules by the Division I Transfor-mation Committee will provide clarity for all student-athletes and the member schools in the transfer landscape across all sports. The changes to the transfer portal rules will be implemented immediately.

According to the NCAA, the new rules for the transfer portal will require that the schools consider athletics when they begin awarding scholarships to transfer student athletes in order to provide scholarships to the students for the five-year eligibility period or until they complete the requirements for their bachelor’s degree.

Athletes in all sports can continue to be eligible the first time they transfer if they notify their school in writing during the notification-of-transfer window determined by their sport. According to the NCAA, the board has also adopted more specifi c standards for immediate eligibility waivers for student-athletes who do not meet the one-time transfer exception.

The new notification-of-transfer window is as follows:

The 45-day window begins the day aft er championship selections are made in their respective sport, or May 1-15 for fall sports; accommodations will be made for those who are participants of the Football Bowl Subdivision and Football Championship Subdivision Championship games. A 60-day window for winter sports begins the day aft er championship selections are made. Dec. 1-15 or a 45-day window for spring sports begins the day aft er selections are made for the sport. There are also exceptions to the new windows for student-athletes who experience head coach changes or have their athletic aid reduced, canceled or not renewed.

Immediate eligibility waiver for student-athletes who do not meet the one-time transfer exception have more specific standards. These focus on the student-athletes’ well-being or any circumstances that are outside of the student-athletes’ control.

There are no current transfer rules that will allow student-athletes to transfer multiple times and be immediately eligible if they meet the degree requirements at their new school. The board has opted to not enact these exceptions.

The NCAA has recently instructed that college football programs remove any names of student-athletes who entered the transfer portal since the new transfer portal window was implemented Aug. 31. Schools have also been informed not to contact any student-athletes that have entered the transfer portal during that period.

According to ESPN, athletes were still entering the transfer portal. This is a process that requires the school’s compliance office to officially enter the athlete’s name in the portal. Athletes must enter the transfer portal during the window of their sport but are not required to transfer to their transfer school during the window.

Once student-athletes are entered in the portal, they may meet with coaches at other schools and transfer at any time. According to ESPN, if a head coach is fired during the season, student-athletes on the team have a 30-day window from the time the coach is fired to be allowed to enter the portal no matter the transfer portal.

All information courtesy of the NCAA and ESPN.

Katrina Villarreal is a staff reporter and may be reached at [email protected].

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17 hours ago, cheeseman said:

We only could have gone up.  We didn't have much in the cupboard left.  I plan to sit back and watch.  Hype on unknown players is not going to get me excited - proof is in results.

I refuse to get overly excited about the upcoming season with what’s returning or coming on board. Color me meh at this point. Until Travis can out scheme his opponents or coach guys up any optimism at this stage is unwarranted. The only proven player we got from the portal is the kid from Tulsa. Noland and Ezwiro were bench warmers from mediocre teams. Getting Harriman back may be our best off season move. All that said, sports have a way of surprising us, and so I’ll hope to be surprised. 

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10 hours ago, The Wiz said:

The following article isn't new but the rules are still in effect.  Hopefully , it will make the 1st article a little clearer and explain why Ezewiro and 3 other teammates on GT were all allowed to file for a 2nd transfer on an exception....The key phrase is "if the coach is fired , you have 30 days to file for the portal."

I bolded the key phrase at the end of the article. The coach firing rule is still in effect as of  today. 

NCAA changes rules for transfers

 
Photo+courtesy+of+the+NCAA%2FWikipedia+Commons+
 

Photo courtesy of the NCAA/Wikipedia Commons

Katrina Villarreal, Staff Reporter
September 20, 2022

The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) announced Wednesday, Aug. 31, that it has made changes to the transfer rules for student-athletes to be able to receive fi nancial aid at their next school, continuing until graduation without interruption.

Adjustments made to the transfer rules by the Division I Transfor-mation Committee will provide clarity for all student-athletes and the member schools in the transfer landscape across all sports. The changes to the transfer portal rules will be implemented immediately.

According to the NCAA, the new rules for the transfer portal will require that the schools consider athletics when they begin awarding scholarships to transfer student athletes in order to provide scholarships to the students for the five-year eligibility period or until they complete the requirements for their bachelor’s degree.

Athletes in all sports can continue to be eligible the first time they transfer if they notify their school in writing during the notification-of-transfer window determined by their sport. According to the NCAA, the board has also adopted more specifi c standards for immediate eligibility waivers for student-athletes who do not meet the one-time transfer exception.

The new notification-of-transfer window is as follows:

The 45-day window begins the day aft er championship selections are made in their respective sport, or May 1-15 for fall sports; accommodations will be made for those who are participants of the Football Bowl Subdivision and Football Championship Subdivision Championship games. A 60-day window for winter sports begins the day aft er championship selections are made. Dec. 1-15 or a 45-day window for spring sports begins the day aft er selections are made for the sport. There are also exceptions to the new windows for student-athletes who experience head coach changes or have their athletic aid reduced, canceled or not renewed.

Immediate eligibility waiver for student-athletes who do not meet the one-time transfer exception have more specific standards. These focus on the student-athletes’ well-being or any circumstances that are outside of the student-athletes’ control.

There are no current transfer rules that will allow student-athletes to transfer multiple times and be immediately eligible if they meet the degree requirements at their new school. The board has opted to not enact these exceptions.

The NCAA has recently instructed that college football programs remove any names of student-athletes who entered the transfer portal since the new transfer portal window was implemented Aug. 31. Schools have also been informed not to contact any student-athletes that have entered the transfer portal during that period.

According to ESPN, athletes were still entering the transfer portal. This is a process that requires the school’s compliance office to officially enter the athlete’s name in the portal. Athletes must enter the transfer portal during the window of their sport but are not required to transfer to their transfer school during the window.

Once student-athletes are entered in the portal, they may meet with coaches at other schools and transfer at any time. According to ESPN, if a head coach is fired during the season, student-athletes on the team have a 30-day window from the time the coach is fired to be allowed to enter the portal no matter the transfer portal.

All information courtesy of the NCAA and ESPN.

Katrina Villarreal is a staff reporter and may be reached at [email protected].

I sense that you have the same interest in this topic that I do.  I also sense that not all that many others are interested.😀

I did find the NCAA January 11, 2023 Update to their Information, Guidelines and Directives.  The Sept 22 article author obviously didn't have this updated information which was voted on 5 months later.   The NCAA has highlighted the changes.  I also found it interesting the documentation required for 'mental health' issues. 

Bottom line is that I won't be satisfied until the Staff announces that Ezewiro has his waiver in hand. 

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d1/clr/D1CLR_Guidelines.pdf

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22 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:

I sense that you have the same interest in this topic that I do.  I also sense that not all that many others are interested.😀

I did find the NCAA January 11, 2023 Update to their Information, Guidelines and Directives.  The Sept 22 article author obviously didn't have this updated information which was voted on 5 months later.   The NCAA has highlighted the changes.  I also found it interesting the documentation required for 'mental health' issues. 

Bottom line is that I won't be satisfied until the Staff announces that Ezewiro has his waiver in hand. 

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d1/clr/D1CLR_Guidelines.pdf

I also am interested to see where this goes. On the above pdf from the NCAA, which as you pointed out was put out in January 2023, approx 5 months after the article quoted by the Wiz, page 16 very clearly states waiver exemptions will not be given for coaching changes. Per the above document, a two time transfer has to sit a year. I guess we’ll see where this ends up, my guess is that someone will sue and it won’t hold up in court, or the NCAA will back down under threat of a lawsuit. But we will see.

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23 minutes ago, Lord Elrond said:

I also am interested to see where this goes. On the above pdf from the NCAA, which as you pointed out was put out in January 2023, approx 5 months after the article quoted by the Wiz, page 16 very clearly states waiver exemptions will not be given for coaching changes. Per the above document, a two time transfer has to sit a year. I guess we’ll see where this ends up, my guess is that someone will sue and it won’t hold up in court, or the NCAA will back down under threat of a lawsuit. But we will see.

From a player's standpoint, whether a coach is fired, leaves for another job, or retires, the coach is gone.  For the players he recruited, the result is the same....no more coach.  So I wonder how one avenue would have a different set of rules than another.

The problem with a lawsuit is that it takes time.  You file today, and when is it heard in court; a year or two years down the road.  I guess some alumni-judge could place a temporary injunction on the rule.

I found the paragraphs on demonstrating mental health issues was interesting.

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4 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said:

No offense but coming from almost anyone else on this forum I might take that a little more to heart.....  

Whatever dude. I've been saying the same thing for months on this forum regarding the stupid back and forth regarding Ford. Don't act like my view suddenly changed.

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45 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:

Whatever dude. I've been saying the same thing for months on this forum regarding the stupid back and forth regarding Ford. Don't act like my view suddenly changed.

I was referring to your middle name being hyperbole based on other topics.  Heck it might be your last name for all I know.  Despite that, upon reflection, it is a good point.

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4 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said:

Curious as to why....

Would absolutely love to know. 

6.7 ppg in conference play as a sophomore in his first year of D1. 

But bigger picture is 19 ppg per 40 minutes which is .4 behind JP for tops on the team. also 42% from 3 in conf play.

Im thinking we see somewhere near 12-14ppg next year from him. 

 

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15 minutes ago, wgstl said:

Would absolutely love to know. 

6.7 ppg in conference play as a sophomore in his first year of D1. 

But bigger picture is 19 ppg per 40 minutes which is .4 behind JP for tops on the team. also 42% from 3 in conf play.

Im thinking we see somewhere near 12-14ppg next year from him. 

 

This is where I’m at. Sincere’s game looked a lot better once conference rolled around and he got extended time. If he plays 20 minutes per game this season, he’ll average double digits and have some big games. Heck, it’s not out of the realm of possibility he leads SLU in scoring this year. 

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34 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:

I certainly don't think I am hyperbolic, passionate and energetic absolutely. But I believe in what I say. There are posters on this board much more in the clouds both negative and positive than I.

Definition of Hyperbole:  exaggerated statements (or claims not meant to be taken literally.) 

The underline was courtesy of the Oxford English dictionary. 

 

 

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