brianstl Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 hours ago, dlarry said: I just want to start this over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 hour ago, brianstl said: I just want to start this over It just looks like a ribcage to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLIKNS Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Until he commits somewhere.... maybe he could change his mind, but don't expect that. Was anxious for him to come here Coach314 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Sounds like he just wants to move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 5 hours ago, BrettJollyComedyHour said: It just looks like a ribcage to me Is this better? BrettJollyComedyHour likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 hours ago, kmbilliken said: Sounds like he just wants to move up. you are probably right but where he sees a lower level than he wants I see an opportunity. I wish he would have taken the challenge of turning a program like SLU into a Creighton instead of just joining a program like Creighton. AGB91 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 2 hours ago, dlarry said: Is this better? No I feel like I'm getting a Rorschach Test dlarry likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 hours ago, dlarry said: you are probably right but where he sees a lower level than he wants I see an opportunity. I wish he would have taken the challenge of turning a program like SLU into a Creighton instead of just joining a program like Creighton. You guys act like he is LeBron. My god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSLU68 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Over winter in Omaha gives me the chills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 8 hours ago, BilliesBy40 said: You guys act like he is LeBron. My god No not Lebron but I thought he would become a valuable piece to a team that was going to compete for NCAA tournament appearances by his junior year. This loss stings. billikenbill and MusicCityBilliken like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 9 hours ago, BilliesBy40 said: You guys act like he is LeBron. My god Fair point and I admit I do not have any specifics on him but if Creighton signed him then he would have been a good pick up by us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 I just saw on FB CU has only one scholie left. No mention of Vice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, slu72 said: I just saw on FB CU has only one scholie left. No mention of Vice. I don't see were he committed to Creighton yet. Just has the offer. Maybe holding that last scholie for him if he wants it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, MusicCityBilliken said: I don't see were he committed to Creighton yet. Just has the offer. Maybe holding that last scholie for him if he wants it. Well that is as good as signing him if this is true. His call I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Ya Know in the age of NIL a letter of intent needs to carry more weight. The NCAA ought to view this as the first transfer. BrettJollyComedyHour, Major Majerus, dlarry and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Basketbill said: Ya Know in the age of NIL a letter of intent needs to carry more weight. The NCAA ought to view this as the first transfer. How would you view a University moving on from a player and "suggesting" he transfer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Coach314 said: How would you view a University moving on from a player and "suggesting" he transfer? Two sides of the same coin. If you want a commitment to be binding on the athlete, it should be binding on the university as long as the athlete remains academically eligible. If you want universities to be able to push an athlete out when they decide the athlete isn’t as good an athlete as you want, then you have to give the student the same freedom to freely change schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Lord Elrond said: Two sides of the same coin. If you want a commitment to be binding on the athlete, it should be binding on the university as long as the athlete remains academically eligible. If you want universities to be able to push an athlete out when they decide the athlete isn’t as good an athlete as you want, then you have to give the student the same freedom to freely change schools. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Unfortunately, the NCAA doesn’t count a kid on a roster until he’s enrolled. So a LOI means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Taj79 said: LOI means nothing This might be a smooth brained take from me, but the word "intent" should hold weight. We use intent to differentiate between degrees of assault and murder, so if someone intends to do something and resources are allocated accordingly, shouldn't backing out from a letter of intent carry some consequences to eligibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 55 minutes ago, BrettJollyComedyHour said: This might be a smooth brained take from me, but the word "intent" should hold weight. We use intent to differentiate between degrees of assault and murder, so if someone intends to do something and resources are allocated accordingly, shouldn't backing out from a letter of intent carry some consequences to eligibility? It holds weight in that a school can prevent a guy from playing for a year if they don’t honor it. Most schools just release a guy and avoid the Twitter mob though. brianstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, JMM28 said: It holds weight in that a school can prevent a guy from playing for a year if they don’t honor it. Most schools just release a guy and avoid the Twitter mob though. They just need to get rid of the NIL. It is outdated for basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 55 minutes ago, JMM28 said: It holds weight in that a school can prevent a guy from playing for a year if they don’t honor it. Most schools just release a guy and avoid the Twitter mob though. The threat of negative recruiting is still there too. I first wondered why schools released anyone from NLI...but I imagine it's a big turn-off for recruits to learn they can't get out of it if their circumstances change. JMM28 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, JettFlight5 said: The threat of negative recruiting is still there too. I first wondered why schools released anyone from NLI...but I imagine it's a big turn-off for recruits to learn they can't get out of it if their circumstances change. You 100% do not want to be known as the school who holds recruits hostage. That info would spread pretty quickly. And you bet opposing coaches would use it when recruiting against you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: You 100% do not want to be known as the school who holds recruits hostage. That info would spread pretty quickly. And you bet opposing coaches would use it when recruiting against you. https://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/42525/what-is-phil-martelli-doing Old article, but seems similar to this situation (minus the free transfer rule changes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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