Bilzz Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Also, to be fair, SLU was in very early on Kalkbrenner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, BIG BILL FAN said: It most certainly is if we use the weave, which we do… You said defense was our problem but the discussion was about offense - of course the weave is germane but your point about the defense being our problem and not the offense is what is not germane. Reread your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, slufan13 said: He certainly has recruited Chris May and the big boosters well. Dude can work a room. I'll probably question his basketball related decision making until I die, but I'll never doubt his ability to connect with people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, wgstl said: So Ford is supposed to have a 100% landing record. Yikes, even I cant get behind this one. Is this sarcasm though? Like sometimes dudes just want to go away. You can't win them all, don't encourage a troll like joelabs. VeniceMenace likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, dennis_w said: a 100% perkins might have overcome the coaching and got us dancing Even Crews teams played better defense ppg wise in one of his two trash a$$ seasons. This past years defense gave up .8 points per game less than Crews worst year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, cheeseman said: You said defense was our problem but the discussion was about offense - of course the weave is germane but your point about the defense being our problem and not the offense is what is not germane. Reread your post. I think you need a break. Let me help with your offense question, the best way to judge it, is to measure its performance. This is done by scoring efficiency . If you’re scoring well, then it must not be near as bad as some are saying. I’m sorry I overloaded your mental capacity by bringing up defense as well… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Is this sarcasm though? Like sometimes dudes just want to go away. You can't win them all, don't encourage a troll like joelabs. I forgot to add a question mark, it makes sense now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, willie said: I don't know how far you go back but Rich Grawer got the TOP local recruits. yes, i could, but wont make a case that it was a big mistake firing grawer, he was getting the talent and there was a lot more local talent after he was gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, mrjoelabs said: How in the world is this Kalkbrenner guy not on our roster? High academic. Local. Catholic kid whose mom is a Billiken grad. And we didn’t even recruit him so he ends up at another Jesuit school….Creighton oh and looks like we missed on Malachi Smith over in Belleville too Ford sure nailed these two [ EDIT Steve Merged this discussion into the coaching thread] People, me included, have questioned Ford’s X’s and O’s coaching and whether he’s the guy who will get SLU from being good to being great….but no qualms whatsoever about his recruiting. Barking up the wrong tree there, bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 50 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Even Crews teams played better defense ppg wise in one of his two trash a$$ seasons. This past years defense gave up .8 points per game less than Crews worst year. Pickett was billed as a good defender and that was appealing to me, but I didn't see it this year. He had some good games offensively and a decent season, but I just didn't see an outstanding defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, ACE said: Pickett was billed as a good defender and that was appealing to me, but I didn't see it this year. He had some good games offensively and a decent season, but I just didn't see an outstanding defender. He was injured a good part of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 The offense was underwhelming this season but the defense was legit bad. We had bad individual defenders at all 5 spots and a bad defensive system dlarry likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBand Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I think many on this board would have been happier with May’s statements if they had been a mirror of this: (from stl today article about women’s basketball coach and meeting with their AD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cheeseman Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, BIG BILL FAN said: I think you need a break. Let me help with your offense question, the best way to judge it, is to measure its performance. This is done by scoring efficiency . If you’re scoring well, then it must not be near as bad as some are saying. I’m sorry I overloaded your mental capacity by bringing up defense as well… Look this started between myself and a couple of other posters regarding the use of the weave in general and how it is implemented at SLU. Nobody ever talked about offensive efficiency. You butted in with the offense is fine it was the defense that was the problem. We were not talking about that at all just about the use of the weave in general. If you want to participate in a discussion you are certainly welcome but at least make it germane to the actual discussion. I can not explain it to you any clearer so if you are still confused I am sorry but I am done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderdan Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 6 hours ago, HoosierPal said: I agree 100%. I cringed everytime Okoro set a pick. He was moving on probably 50% of them, either shuffling his feet or putting a hip out. But it was seldom if ever called. Same. Forrester did it too, but Okoro was the main offender. It seemed like we got an offensive foul called, on bad picks, 2-3 times a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 58 minutes ago, TheBand said: I think many on this board would have been happier with May’s statements if they had been a mirror of this: (from stl today article about women’s basketball coach and meeting with their AD) I would have preferred this but I'm not actually sure it's the case in May's mind and certain big boosters minds. Barring like a 10 win season, I think Ford is going to be the coach in 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqLO7BdsB0H/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= New Coach ...New Vibes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Look this started between myself and a couple of other posters regarding the use of the weave in general and how it is implemented at SLU. Nobody ever talked about offensive efficiency. You butted in with the offense is fine it was the defense that was the problem. We were not talking about that at all just about the use of the weave in general. If you want to participate in a discussion you are certainly welcome but at least make it germane to the actual discussion. I can not explain it to you any clearer so if you are still confused I am sorry but I am done. He’s incorrect anyway Using Ken Pomeroy as a reference, SLU has not had a top 49 adjusted offense efficiency in ANY of the past 7 seasons. 324 2017 225 2018 214 2019 111 2020 50 2021 63 2022 64 2023 Adjusted offensive efficiency is defined by the amount of points a team scores per 100 possessions against an average defense. Adjusted defense is points allowed per 100 possessions vs an average defense. SLU’s defense. 181 2017 80 2018 40 2019 44 2020 65 2021 81 2022 153 2023 …………….. So as it shows, SLU was able to turn around the defense more quickly than offense. However it has gotten progressively worse the past few seasons. SLU has never had a great offense the past 7 years. If you are going to have a bad offense you need an elite defense. If you have a bad defense, you need an elite offense. If you are well balanced, those rankings, roughly speaking, need to be 40’s each or better to dance. And even then that is the bubble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 42 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Look this started between myself and a couple of other posters regarding the use of the weave in general and how it is implemented at SLU. Nobody ever talked about offensive efficiency. You butted in with the offense is fine it was the defense that was the problem. We were not talking about that at all just about the use of the weave in general. If you want to participate in a discussion you are certainly welcome but at least make it germane to the actual discussion. I can not explain it to you any clearer so if you are still confused I am sorry but I am done. You’re a joke, I certainly don’t need your permission to post. I get it, you’re butt hurt that Ford is returning…but if my posts bother you, I will be glad to teach how to use the ignore function… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Meanwhile, I’m watching Sweet 16 NCAA teams and the talent level displayed is astronomically better than ours. We may have thought we could be a Sweet 16 team this year but no way. I appreciate all our guy’s efforts this year, and leaving Ford’s coaching skills out of it, the fact is we need better players. Can a Midwestern school with a spotty hoop history in a mid-major conference attract that kind of talent? Time will tell but the odds are against it. Billikenbooster and HoosierPal like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Watching San Diego State center Mensah, I have to say that guy makes some well-timed and very smart blocks. Down goes ‘Bama!!! Love it. SEC, so overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 45 minutes ago, billikenbill said: Watching San Diego State center Mensah, I have to say that guy makes some well-timed and very smart blocks. Down goes ‘Bama!!! Love it. SEC, so overrated. I would even say SDSU “murdered” Alabama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, dlarry said: I would even say SDSU “murdered” Alabama. Bama erred by bringing a knife to a gunfight. Lord Elrond likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Schasz said: Don't fret about me A_Bomb as I never see the ignorant people who post about my rooting for UT. Frankly, there are lots of posts about Coach Barnes that are negative today on Volition. He will be ending a HOF career in the next year or two. His teams play very good defense but do seem to come up short on the offensive end as they did last night. Majority of right thinking SLU fans would be very pleased with the success UT has had over Barnes years coaching the Vols. You're right as his players like playing for him. I have absolutely no problem with your Tennessee fandom. Your recent repeated post about how “Gonzaga is your favorite winning Jesuit school” has pissed me right the f*** off. Why you post so much on your AT BEST third favorite schools message board is beyond me. BrettJollyComedyHour, billikenbill, Billiken Rich and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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