slu72 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Not one A10 team in NIT. I at least thought SVU would get a slot just for the sell out factor. Nope. Not them. Not us. No one. That’s sad for a once proud conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Dayton opted out, but Duquesne is in the CBI!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, slu72 said: Not one A10 team in NIT. I at least thought SVU would get a slot just for the sell out factor. Nope. Not them. Not us. No one. That’s sad for a once proud conference. Conference started going downhill with the Butler and Xavier exits to the Big East. The pre-season darlings were both SLU and Dayton, and neither had impressive results and VCU left both teams in the rear view mirror. Both Dayton and SLU HC's should be on short leashes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, slu72 said: Not one A10 team in NIT. I at least thought SVU would get a slot just for the sell out factor. Nope. Not them. Not us. No one. That’s sad for a once proud conference. Dayton opted out. Great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, DOC said: Dayton opted out. Great post. Yeah, the A10 could have been one bid in two tournaments. Awesome for a conference that averaged 3.5 NCAA bids from 2008-2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmdragons Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, DOC said: Dayton opted out. Great post. And I opted out of dating Margot Robbie. BC1764, Young Charles, rgbilliken and 4 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Light Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, stmdragons said: And I opted out of dating Margot Robbie. Was it because she pronounces AC/DC as Ackadacka? stmdragons likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, brianstl said: Yeah, the A10 could have been one bid in two tournaments. Awesome for a conference that averaged 3.5 NCAA bids from 2008-2018. Guess which metric showed up in 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Meanwhile, the Big 10 gets 8 teams in the NCAAT and 3 in the NIT. So the NCAA’s dream of getting every major conf team a bid gets closer to fulfillment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 hours ago, majerus mojo said: Guess which metric showed up in 2018 NET is fraudulent. Why should one of the main indicators of a season’s success not be mainly results based? There may be outliers where the A10 and similar conferences have 3+ bids, but for the most part it will be 1-2 from here on out. This is what they (P5) wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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An A-10 fan Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 It was obvious back in December that the A-10 was only going to get one bid this season based on their mediocre showing in November. But that's the problem, why is so much emphasis placed on what are tantamount to "preseason" games played 120 days before the tournament starts? Player rotations used in November, often bear little resemblance to the lineups that coaches use in November. For the league to get only one NCAA bid is insult enough, but to be shut out of the NIT is a joke, especially since one of its member schools made a run to the NIT finals last season by winning 3 consecutive road games against Power 5 teams. Maybe the conference should be split up and every team goes its own way? Maybe your team gets invited to the Big East? It's a large market where the Big East has no presence right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, An A-10 fan said: It was obvious back in December that the A-10 was only going to get one bid this season based on their mediocre showing in November. But that's the problem, why is so much emphasis placed on what are tantamount to "preseason" games played 120 days before the tournament starts? Player rotations used in November, often bear little resemblance to the lineups that coaches use in November. For the league to get only one NCAA bid is insult enough, but to be shut out of the NIT is a joke, especially since one of its member schools made a run to the NIT finals last season by winning 3 consecutive road games against Power 5 teams. Maybe the conference should be split up and every team goes its own way? Maybe your team gets invited to the Big East? It's a large market where the Big East has no presence right now. When it last expanded the Big East took Xavier and Butler and did not take SLU. With our lack of success under Travis Ford what would make one think now that the Big East is ready to invite SLU into their league? Perhaps some other league would be willing to take the Bills and frankly I do agree it is time to look around as the A-10 looks like it might continue to be a one team NCAA Tourney league and outside of Dayton is not much of a rivalry fit. An A-10 fan and cheeseman like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 I had not heard UD opted out when I posted. I did see where UNC had. Mea Culpa. But did they know they were going to be selected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I hate the NET. That being said, it is the measuring tool that matters, regardless of what I think. Here are the final numbers, I’m not trolling, just pointing out where we stand based upon the NET. SLU - 99 Big East - 8 teams are ranked higher than that. We would be the #9 team in that conference ‘Atlantic 10 - 2 teams are ranked higher than that. We are the #3 team in the conference MVC - 3 teams are ranked higher than that. We would be the #4 team in that conference MAC - 2 teams are ranked higher than that. We would be the #3 team in that conference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 hours ago, majerus mojo said: Guess which metric showed up in 2018 If the NET is killing conferences at the A10's level why is the MWC having 4 teams in the tournament for the second year in a row? Over the same time period the A 10 averaged 3.5 bids the MWC averaged 2.8. Since then the MWC has averaged 3 bids and the A 10 has averaged 1.75. Bizziken, MusicCityBilliken, JMM28 and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, brianstl said: If the NET is killing conferences at the A10's level why is the MWC having 4 teams in the tournament for the second year in a row? Over the same time period the A 10 averaged 3.5 bids the MWC averaged 2.8. Since then the MWC has averaged 3 bids and the A 10 has averaged 1.75. I'm not worried about other leagues I'm worried about SLU and right thinking SLU fans know what the problem is with SLU (hint for those who don't...HC). Fix that problem ASAP...hope the next one is very good then we can think about NCAA Tourney Appearances!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Schasz said: I'm not worried about other leagues I'm worried about SLU and right thinking SLU fans know what the problem is with SLU (hint for those who don't...HC). Fix that problem ASAP...hope the next one is very good then we can think about NCAA Tourney Appearances!!! This "right thinking SLU fan" disagrees with your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, brianstl said: If the NET is killing conferences at the A10's level why is the MWC having 4 teams in the tournament for the second year in a row? Over the same time period the A 10 averaged 3.5 bids the MWC averaged 2.8. Since then the MWC has averaged 3 bids and the A 10 has averaged 1.75. maybe geography matters some? i.e. not as many good teams out west to give away losses? so their fake NET ratings come to the top? just spit balling. dennis_w likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, billiken_roy said: maybe geography matters some? i.e. not as many good teams out west to give away losses? so their fake NET ratings come to the top? just spit balling. We have to game the system just like everyone else. You have to schedule some weak teams and beat the hell out of them to increase your BS offensive efficiency. It's classless and just mean but beating Lindenwood and NCA&T Coastal Northeast by 30 is better than Beating Memphis by one and losing to Auburn by one. If that's what you have to do so be it....... wgstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, brianstl said: If the NET is killing conferences at the A10's level why is the MWC having 4 teams in the tournament for the second year in a row? Over the same time period the A 10 averaged 3.5 bids the MWC averaged 2.8. Since then the MWC has averaged 3 bids and the A 10 has averaged 1.75. Its the story of too many bottom feeders. The Mountain West bottom feeder was Wyoming who somehow still managed a 172 net with only a 8-22 record. The rest of the conference was all above 150 in the NET. The A10 had Bonaventure, St Joes, UMass, GW, LaSalle, URI, and Loyola all 200 or below in that order. That means damn near half your conference schedule at home is going to be a Q4 game. There just weren't any quality wins in the non-con from any A10 teams that helped boost the top dogs enough to overcome the terrible bottom of the conference. majerus mojo, brianstl and Schasz like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenbooster Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Schasz said: I'm not worried about other leagues I'm worried about SLU and right thinking SLU fans know what the problem is with SLU (hint for those who don't...HC). Fix that problem ASAP...hope the next one is very good then we can think about NCAA Tourney Appearances!!! That is it. I'm over you, dude. Going on ignore. You have one post you just keep repeating and repeating and repeating. Get over yourself and your GD Vols. Love ignore. Bye RiseOfTheBillikens likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: maybe geography matters some? i.e. not as many good teams out west to give away losses? so their fake NET ratings come to the top? just spit balling. This answer is getting warm. There are less teams in the West. The Power 5 Pac-12 (and the WCC) still play Mountain West schools, by geographic necessity. But let's never let the narrative get in the way of the facts, especially on this Board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Billikenbooster said: That is it. I'm over you, dude. Going on ignore. You have one post you just keep repeating and repeating and repeating. Get over yourself and your GD Vols. Love ignore. Bye Bye Bye!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, WVBilliken said: This "right thinking SLU fan" disagrees with your opinion. From what I can tell unfortunately you are in the minority, but that's fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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