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17 minutes ago, AGB91 said:

I actually think that Ole Miss. would be great spot for Travis should he and SLU Decide to part ways.

He won’t even be on their list. They’re going to go with a really big name or rising coach. Chris Beard, Dusty May, and Will Wade have all been mentioned by Jeff Goodman on Twitter this morning. 

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19 minutes ago, AGB91 said:

I actually think that Ole Miss. would be great spot for Travis should he and SLU Decide to part ways.

I cant think of a single reason a p5 school would hire Travis. 

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Ole Miss has shown they'll hire coaches with baggage they picked up Joey Freshwater to be their Head FB Coach.  So I can see them hiring Beard.  If he can get TTU to the national championship game I think he can pull talent to Oxford.  Sad because as a Texas fan I don't want him in the same conference. 

Kermit had multiple losing seasons. 

Texas will be in the market for a coach. Rodney Terry is a Texas guy but I think he's a version of Crews.  He can win with Beard's team but can sustain it on his own. He never did it at previous coaching stops. Sucks for him as he left HC job at UTEP for the assistant job. However, if he wins the B12 and gets to a Sweet 16 it'll be hard not to retain him. 

Texas search has been close hold. Names thrown out include Oates at Bama (though the recent scandal could be an issue), Musselman at Ark (season is not great but mostly due to b injuries), Jay Wright (would he leave his cush gig), and no sh#t Calipari.  He's catching heat at UK but is it enough to give up his lifetime deal?  Sources confirmed there was something to the Cal consideration.  The others are speculation. 

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8 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said:

Ole Miss has shown they'll hire coaches with baggage they picked up Joey Freshwater to be their Head FB Coach.  So I can see them hiring Beard.  If he can get TTU to the national championship game I think he can pull talent to Oxford.  Sad because as a Texas fan I don't want him in the same conference. 

Kermit had multiple losing seasons. 

Texas will be in the market for a coach. Rodney Terry is a Texas guy but I think he's a version of Crews.  He can win with Beard's team but can sustain it on his own. He never did it at previous coaching stops. Sucks for him as he left HC job at UTEP for the assistant job. However, if he wins the B12 and gets to a Sweet 16 it'll be hard not to retain him. 

Texas search has been close hold. Names thrown out include Oates at Bama (though the recent scandal could be an issue), Musselman at Ark (season is not great but mostly due to b injuries), Jay Wright (would he leave his cush gig), and no sh#t Calipari.  He's catching heat at UK but is it enough to give up his lifetime deal?  Sources confirmed there was something to the Cal consideration.  The others are speculation. 

I think Cal leaving UK is a possibility if UK gives him some kind of package to walk away from that deal.   I don't think there is anyway they can fire him cost wise and there is no way he just walks away from that deal without some payout.  UK boosters are nuts and they are probably at or close to their point of writing Cal a big enough check to walk away if he has another high paying deal lined up.

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28 minutes ago, brianstl said:

I think Cal leaving UK is a possibility if UK gives him some kind of package to walk away from that deal.   I don't think there is anyway they can fire him cost wise and there is no way he just walks away from that deal without some payout.  UK boosters are nuts and they are probably at or close to their point of writing Cal a big enough check to walk away if he has another high paying deal lined up.

i would think the buyout of a calipari KU contract would be astronomical.   he has to be the initiator of a divorce imo.  

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8 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

i would think the buyout of a calipari KU contract would be astronomical.   he has to be the initiator of a divorce imo.  

That is why it would have to involve him already having a big deal lined up somewhere else.  I think they would still have to pay him even under that scenario, but it might make it affordable enough for UK.  

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1 minute ago, brianstl said:

That is why it would have to involve him already having a big deal lined up somewhere else.  I think they would still have to pay him even under that scenario, but it might make it affordable enough for UK.  

just for reference sakes, i would assume that calipari always makes sure he has at least 5 years remaining on his contract for recruiting purposes (recruits want to be assured he will be there for them their whole career) 

according to the internet, his contract defines his buyout if fired by kentucky as follows (it also assumes no more extensions in the future years.  i.e. an extension probably starts the clock over)

  • If Calipari is fired after 2022-23: $39,750,000 (plus 75% of his remaining pay from the date he is fired to June 29, 2023)
  • 2023-24: $33,375,000
  • 2024-25: $27,000,000
  • 2025-26: $20,250,000
  • 2026-27: $13,500,000
  • 2027-28: $6,750,000

I would bet calipari's agent and attorney's revise each year to indeed start the clock over in the event of the school initiated parting of ways.    $40 million is a lot of money to come up with considering the school (an boosters) still have to overpay for the replacement coach and contribute to the dastardly NiL.   that's a lot of booster money!

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4 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

just for reference sakes, i would assume that calipari always makes sure he has at least 5 years remaining on his contract for recruiting purposes (recruits want to be assured he will be there for them their whole career) 

according to the internet, his contract defines his buyout if fired by kentucky as follows (it also assumes no more extensions in the future years.  i.e. an extension probably starts the clock over)

  • If Calipari is fired after 2022-23: $39,750,000 (plus 75% of his remaining pay from the date he is fired to June 29, 2023)
  • 2023-24: $33,375,000
  • 2024-25: $27,000,000
  • 2025-26: $20,250,000
  • 2026-27: $13,500,000
  • 2027-28: $6,750,000

I would bet calipari's agent and attorney's revise each year to indeed start the clock over in the event of the school initiated parting of ways.    $40 million is a lot of money to come up with considering the school (an boosters) still have to overpay for the replacement coach and contribute to the dastardly NiL.   that's a lot of booster money!

BR...It's the SEC you're worried about money. Money never seems to be a problem in that league. It's big time in every way!

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7 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

just for reference sakes, i would assume that calipari always makes sure he has at least 5 years remaining on his contract for recruiting purposes (recruits want to be assured he will be there for them their whole career) 

according to the internet, his contract defines his buyout if fired by kentucky as follows (it also assumes no more extensions in the future years.  i.e. an extension probably starts the clock over)

  • If Calipari is fired after 2022-23: $39,750,000 (plus 75% of his remaining pay from the date he is fired to June 29, 2023)
  • 2023-24: $33,375,000
  • 2024-25: $27,000,000
  • 2025-26: $20,250,000
  • 2026-27: $13,500,000
  • 2027-28: $6,750,000

I would bet calipari's agent and attorney's revise each year to indeed start the clock over in the event of the school initiated parting of ways.    $40 million is a lot of money to come up with considering the school (an boosters) still have to overpay for the replacement coach and contribute to the dastardly NiL.   that's a lot of booster money!

My thinking is that if Cal signs a contract with Texas that gets him $30-35 million total (what Beard was making), then he would be open to leaving UK for a one time $10 million pay out.

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1 minute ago, Schasz said:

BR...It's the SEC you're worried about money. Money never seems to be a problem in that league. It's big time in every way!

replacing calipari imo with buyouts, hiring the percieved better coach and making the needed NiL contribution likely approaches and upfront cost of at least $100,000,000 maybe more as football NiL has to be considered as well since the "contributors" will be asked to pony up for both basketball and football.  the NiL is going to change the $$$ of everything substantially going forward.  The NCAA really f'd up on this.   I understand the court's forced their hand to give the athletes money, but they should have taken control of it and socialized it somewhat.   i.e. declare an amount upfront that the teams could give to the players instead of making it bidding wars.   the vast majority of the kids would have been happy with spending money and they could have likely gotten by with maybe less than $10,000 a player spread out over the year.   instead it will get crazy from my perspective.  

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1 minute ago, brianstl said:

My thinking is that if Cal signs a contract with Texas that gets him $30-35 million total (what Beard was making), then he would be open to leaving UK for a one time $10 million pay out.

if i am Cal, i make them fire me for that $40 m payout.   every year there is a texas like opportunity.   so why give them a $30 m discount?   

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1 hour ago, TheA_Bomb said:

Ole Miss has shown they'll hire coaches with baggage they picked up Joey Freshwater to be their Head FB Coach.  So I can see them hiring Beard.  If he can get TTU to the national championship game I think he can pull talent to Oxford.  Sad because as a Texas fan I don't want him in the same conference. 

Kermit had multiple losing seasons. 

Texas will be in the market for a coach. Rodney Terry is a Texas guy but I think he's a version of Crews.  He can win with Beard's team but can sustain it on his own. He never did it at previous coaching stops. Sucks for him as he left HC job at UTEP for the assistant job. However, if he wins the B12 and gets to a Sweet 16 it'll be hard not to retain him. 

Texas search has been close hold. Names thrown out include Oates at Bama (though the recent scandal could be an issue), Musselman at Ark (season is not great but mostly due to b injuries), Jay Wright (would he leave his cush gig), and no sh#t Calipari.  He's catching heat at UK but is it enough to give up his lifetime deal?  Sources confirmed there was something to the Cal consideration.  The others are speculation. 

I understand why Texas would be interested in Jay Wright. I don't understand why Jay Wright would be interested in Texas. 

Jay Wright has lived in PA for 50 years of his 61 years. And 46 of those have been in Philly. He made $6.2 million a year at Villanova, where he won 2 National Championships, and left after a season where he made an additional Final Four.

 

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3 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

if i am Cal, i make them fire me for that $40 m payout.   every year there is a texas like opportunity.   so why give them a $30 m discount?   

All speculation at this point but from what I've read there is interest.  Is it on both sides?  But everything is negotiable.  There are rabid UK fans that want to get rid of him.  He could be willing to walk to another good job.

I'd prefer Jay Wright but it's unclear if he wants to coach again.

What other big jobs are opening up?

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4 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

if i am Cal, i make them fire me for that $40 m payout.   every year there is a texas like opportunity.   so why give them a $30 m discount?   

He isn't giving them a discount.  That $40 million payout is going to be reduced by his salary whenever he takes another job.  All coaches contracts are structured that way.  If he gets a $35 million deal a Texas and a $10 million buyout at UK he is getting himself $5 million more than he would have made otherwise.  

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Just now, courtside said:

I understand why Texas would be interested in Jay Wright. I don't understand why Jay Wright would be interested in Texas. 

Jay Wright has lived in PA for 50 years of his 61 years. And 46 of those have been in Philly. He made $6.2 million a year at Villanova, where he won 2 National Championships, and left after a season where he made an additional Final Four.

 

Yeah maybe he's "an east coast guy" but why would he be interested?  Greatest city in the USA neigh the world between 2 huge recruiting hotbeds metropolises DFW & Houston, at the school in line to win the Learfield Directors Cup back to back, brand new amazing arena, with enough $ to pay what you ask, in a top BB conference.  Just a couple little reasons.

But like I said he may not want to coach again.

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2 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said:

Yeah maybe he's "an east coast guy" but why would he be interested?  Greatest city in the USA neigh the world between 2 huge recruiting hotbeds metropolises DFW & Houston, at the school in line to win the Learfield Directors Cup back to back, brand new amazing arena, with enough $ to pay what you ask, in a top BB conference.  Just a couple little reasons.

But like I said he may not want to coach again.

I hate to break it to you, but Jay Wright thinks Philly is the best city in the world. He's already made a lot of money, and he walked away from a $6.2 million salary. He now gets to do what he wants at Villanova, a place he loves, while also broadcasting games etc...on the side. And he's won College Basketball National Championships there too. But that's nice about Learfield Director's Cup. He won 11 Big East Titles too. Pretty good league that has won 8 national titles. Six of those have come in the past 20 years. I see the Big 12 has had 3 in that time. Good for the Big 12. Oh and recruiting geography was pretty good too. 

But like I said, why would Jay Wright be interested in Texas?

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6 minutes ago, courtside said:

I hate to break it to you, but Jay Wright thinks Philly is the best city in the world. He's already made a lot of money, and he walked away from a $6.2 million salary. He now gets to do what he wants at Villanova, a place he loves, while also broadcasting games etc...on the side. And he's won College Basketball National Championships there too. But that's nice about Learfield Director's Cup. He won 11 Big East Titles too. Pretty good league that has won 8 national titles. Six of those have come in the past 20 years. I see the Big 12 has had 3 in that time. Good for the Big 12. Oh and recruiting geography was pretty good too. 

But like I said, why would Jay Wright be interested in Texas?

Like I said, I don't know if he wants to coach again or move from Philadelphia. I guess you do so that's great. Good info I'll pass it onto Texas AD Chris Del Conte if he's on the shortlist he'll be off pronto. Good looking out Courtside!

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33 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said:

Like I said, I don't know if he wants to coach again or move from Philadelphia. I guess you do so that's great. Good info I'll pass it onto Texas AD Chris Del Conte if he's on the shortlist he'll be off pronto. Good looking out Courtside!

Like I said I understood why Texas would be interested. I also said I didn't know why he would be interested in them. If he wanted to coach college basketball, he could do it at Villanova. They can always ask. It never hurts to ask. 

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7 hours ago, TheA_Bomb said:

Ole Miss has shown they'll hire coaches with baggage they picked up Joey Freshwater to be their Head FB Coach.  So I can see them hiring Beard.  If he can get TTU to the national championship game I think he can pull talent to Oxford.  Sad because as a Texas fan I don't want him in the same conference. 

 

They did fire Hugh Freeze after they found Memphis escort services calls on a University supplied cell phone (not a  bright move). Liberty had no trouble hiring him. Next year Freeze will be at Auburn as HC. Holier than thou Texas will just have to hold their nose when they play them also. Seems SEC $ is a big enticement to compromise oneself.

 

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