SluSignGuy Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, maverick said: I've actually never watched one either ... anybody know what the deal is with start time? Or maybe it's happened and the link just doesn't work ... Starting now I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, brianstl said: When team consistently blows double digit second half leads over multiple seasons with different players, the one constant is probably the issue. Oh I agree. But I don’t think it’s as much the in game strategy. He does the same crap most coaches do. I think it’s nervousness and lack of on court leadership that Ford has passed onto them. Most coaches teach their players how to be winners and mentally strong. Ford has taught this team how to be losers and mentally weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, dlarry said: I really don’t think it’s the in game coaching. I think it’s the scared, timid, nervous, lack of killer instinct, lack of a leader that kills them. And this is all stuff they have picked up from Ford over the years. At this point John Wooden couldn’t win with this group of learned helplessness. I think it's poor roster construction. Playing guards at forward positions. They don't match the physicality around the basket. Javonte has never been a physical defender. Not having a big that you can consistently give the ball to to get a bucket with his back to the basket. Having wing players that are limited offensively. The losses are coming against teams that have solid guard play and that can exploit the frontcourt. Pistol, willie and CBFan like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, SluSignGuy said: Starting now I think Ford on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, SluSignGuy said: Well there are chairs... TF is answering questions now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, dlarry said: Oh I agree. But I don’t think it’s as much the in game strategy. He does the same crap most coaches do. I think it’s nervousness and lack of on court leadership that Ford has passed onto them. Most coaches teach their players how to be winners and mentally strong. Ford has taught this team how to be losers and mentally weak. I think we agree on the team being a reflection of their coach in high pressure situations. The fact Ford falls apart in those situations as a coach is sort of amazing because he didn’t as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUDrew Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: The standing around appeared to me to be the result of the Billikens deciding to try to play hero ball. Our hero lost the game but since he was allowed to keep driving to the basket throwing that crap up, that's on Ford 100% agree its as if he’s afraid to coach Yuri/ tell Yuri “no.” Even the most casual fan knows that isn’t good basketball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 SLUMedBilliken15, Lando Griffin, JMM28 and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1764 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 This downward spiral began when Danny Mac’s career ended. The best tv announcer in SLU history. Gone. Tell me this program isn’t cursed.. Lando Griffin likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 This offense has been built on "one pass". Stand around and wait for Collins to get you the ball and then shoot it. There is never a second or third pass that leads to a shot. No movement of players off the ball. One or two back door cuts a game, but that is it. How about continual movement? Weakest offensive structure I have seen. Dr Bird likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Ford blaming lack of leadership and athleticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brianstl Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, HoosierPal said: This offense has been built on "one pass". Stand around and wait for Collins to get you the ball and then shoot it. There is never a second or third pass that leads to a shot. No movement of players off the ball. One or two back door cuts a game, but that is it. How about continual movement? Weakest offensive structure I have seen. 100% correct. I was going to post something very similar. All the ball movement is connected to Yuri and it makes it becomes too predictable and easy to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKHANDtheRICAN Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Will everyone now agree with backhand that we have a 0% of an at large bid?? I've been saying this for over a month now... JMM28 and Lando Griffin like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, BACKHANDtheRICAN said: Will everyone now agree with backhand that we have a 0% of an at large bid?? I've been saying this for over a month now... You suck but are also correct...... drkelsey55 and CBFan like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKHANDtheRICAN Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, Billiken Rich said: You suck but are also correct...... Correction: the basketball team sucks. It's been obvious for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, BACKHANDtheRICAN said: Correction: the basketball team sucks. It's been obvious for a while. Both can by true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Ford post game: Team is inconsistent Team is very quiet lacks a vocal leader They give up too many OFF REB magic # is 14 if they give that up they lose THJ and Okoro are the best jumpers the rest aren't athletic enough to not block out and get away with not doing the fundamentals It's on him to find a way to motivate these guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laker119 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 After listening to Ford’s presser, I just have a hard time believing Chris May will cut the cord if this season ends up being a disappointment. I think Ford has a way of showing that he has put sooo much effort in (whether this is the case or not) and the players just haven’t bought in. I wholeheartedly disagree with this assessment from Ford, but I think May is invested in Ford and will give him a longer leash than is warranted, and the program will suffer from it. Call me a pessimist… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1764 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, JMM28 said: Ford blaming lack of leadership and athleticism. Everyone but the man in the mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1764 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, laker119 said: After listening to Ford’s presser, I just have a hard time believing Chris May will cut the cord if this season ends up being a disappointment. I think Ford has a way of showing that he has put sooo much effort in (whether this is the case or not) and the players just haven’t bought in. I wholeheartedly disagree with this assessment from Ford, but I think May is invested in Ford and will give him a longer leash than is warranted, and the program will suffer from it. Call me a pessimist… If that’s true, then Chaifetz will be an empty cavern from here on out. Bizziken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: Ford post game: Team is inconsistent Team is very quiet lacks a vocal leader They give up too many OFF REB magic # is 14 if they give that up they lose THJ and Okoro are the best jumpers the rest aren't athletic enough to not block out and get away with not doing the fundamentals It's on him to find a way to motivate these guys I mean in his defense.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, BC1764 said: If that’s true, then Chaifetz will be an empty cavern from here on out. Honestly I think attendance has been pretty good. If they can compete for an A10 banner people will show up. We won't get the huge ones but it won't be empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 I listened to the presser. He talked about how the team was not together or motivated and was not athletic. He did not put the blame on any of the players and that was good. He talked how much he has talked about this and how quiet the team is. Personally, I thought he looked hurt and defeated. He tried hard to defend himself BUT the coach is the one responsible for having the team play together. This is on him and so are a lot of the other games we should have won but did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, BACKHANDtheRICAN said: Will everyone now agree with backhand that we have a 0% of an at large bid?? I've been saying this for over a month now... He's a prophet. Been thinking about responding and disagreeing but you were proven right. Well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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