Bills By 40 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, billikenfan05 said: College body ready....we've had great fortune with football/basketball combos. I hope we're underestimating the value of Zhang because of the lack of info and video on him. He looked real good in what I have seen, hopefully that holds true and we have a terrorizing backcourt for 4 years led by an SLU/NBA dynasty and a PG that led one of the best HS teams in the country. All with a senior Hargrove for the leadership and freak athleticism? I guess I'm forgetting the potential of Sincere Parker starting in that lineup, but I don't know who he'd replace. I think he'd likely be a 25-30 MPG guy off the bench if Hargrove stays. All this is assuming that Jimerson doesn't, though I sure hope he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, Bills By 40 said: I hope we're underestimating the value of Zhang because of the lack of info and video on him. He looked real good in what I have seen, hopefully that holds true and we have a terrorizing backcourt for 4 years led by an SLU/NBA dynasty and a PG that led one of the best HS teams in the country. All with a senior Hargrove for the leadership and freak athleticism? I guess I'm forgetting the potential of Sincere Parker starting in that lineup, but I don't know who he'd replace. I think he'd likely be a 25-30 MPG guy off the bench if Hargrove stays. All this is assuming that Jimerson doesn't, though I sure hope he does. The radio silence on Zhang has been interesting. I'm not even worrying about him until he gets here. brianstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: The radio silence on Zhang has been interesting. I'm not even worrying about him until he gets here. I would say that is the prudent thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: The radio silence on Zhang has been interesting. I'm not even worrying about him until he gets here. The US didn't tell Japan we had nuclear bombs either. Edit: Turns out Japan WAS warned, but not until it was probably already too late. You get my point though. Edited January 9, 2023 by Bills By 40 Further research Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Bills By 40 said: I hope we're underestimating the value of Zhang because of the lack of info and video on him. He looked real good in what I have seen, hopefully that holds true and we have a terrorizing backcourt for 4 years led by an SLU/NBA dynasty and a PG that led one of the best HS teams in the country. All with a senior Hargrove for the leadership and freak athleticism? I guess I'm forgetting the potential of Sincere Parker starting in that lineup, but I don't know who he'd replace. I think he'd likely be a 25-30 MPG guy off the bench if Hargrove stays. All this is assuming that Jimerson doesn't, though I sure hope he does. Take your pick who Parker would replace - Perkins, Gibby, Thatch to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Take your pick who Parker would replace - Perkins, Gibby, Thatch to start with. We're talking about next year, Perkins and Thatch both have to be gone. Gibby already graduated, I'd be surprised (but thrilled) to see him return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bills By 40 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 45 minutes ago, Bills By 40 said: He had over 400 yards and 10 touchdowns as a TE/WR on a highly competitive football team. I love a multi-sport athlete and I'd say the Billikens do too - the last two football/basketball guys worked out pretty well don't ya think? I'm big on the potential of a Cian/LHj/THj/Vice/Zhang lineup, has a lot of potential there. 39 minutes ago, Bills By 40 said: I hope we're underestimating the value of Zhang because of the lack of info and video on him. He looked real good in what I have seen, hopefully that holds true and we have a terrorizing backcourt for 4 years led by an SLU/NBA dynasty and a PG that led one of the best HS teams in the country. All with a senior Hargrove for the leadership and freak athleticism? I guess I'm forgetting the potential of Sincere Parker starting in that lineup, but I don't know who he'd replace. I think he'd likely be a 25-30 MPG guy off the bench if Hargrove stays. All this is assuming that Jimerson doesn't, though I sure hope he does. After further consideration what feels more likely (from day 1) is an LHj/Sincere/THj/Vice/Zhang lineup with heavy minutes from Cian for either of those in the backcourt. Maybe Momo plays over Zhang but I hope Zhang comes in as a starting-caliber player from day 1 and Momo plays heavy minutes with Zhang at the 5. Cian could fill minutes at the 1 or 2, Kramer at the 2 or 3, and Thames at the (2?) 3 or 4. Vice could play the 4 or 5 and might surprise us with the ability to play the three, though I don't see that happening logistically because then we'd need two guys above him in the frontcourt and a lineup with Vice, Zhang, and Momo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bills By 40 said: After further consideration what feels more likely (from day 1) is an LHj/Sincere/THj/Vice/Zhang lineup with heavy minutes from Cian for either of those in the backcourt. Maybe Momo plays over Zhang but I hope Zhang comes in as a starting-caliber player from day 1 and Momo plays heavy minutes with Zhang at the 5. Cian could fill minutes at the 1 or 2, Kramer at the 2 or 3, and Thames at the (2?) 3 or 4. Vice could play the 4 or 5 and might surprise us with the ability to play the three, though I don't see that happening logistically because then we'd need two guys above him in the frontcourt and a lineup with Vice, Zhang, and Momo. Portal. slufanskip and RUBillsFan like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just remember, all of you on the Fire Ford bandwagon, if Ford goes, some or all of these recruits may decide to pursue other offers. I don't get attached to any recruits, freshmen or transfers, until school starts this fall, the player is on campus, and has laced up his shoes for practice. SLUMedBilliken15 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenbooster Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Freshman big men?? How often have WE seen them succeed here. It will be a long learning process. Figure we will see a Mizzou like cupcake OOC next year as these guys get acclimated. Will be interesting willie likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I am not undervaluing anyone. I'm just not counting on him being a Billiken until he arrives on campus in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I haven’t seen a single thing on Zhang from Skill Factory or elsewhere since he signed? Is he even in the US anymore? Can’t remember the last time there was this little information on a recruit, even the international ones. Think I had seen a tweet that he was back in China playing with the youth squad of a pro team there, but now I can’t find it, so who know if that’s true…. I’m with 05 in that I’m expecting very little from Zhang until it’s confirmed he’s on campus next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Bills By 40 said: We're talking about next year, Perkins and Thatch both have to be gone. Gibby already graduated, I'd be surprised (but thrilled) to see him return. I was also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: I haven’t seen a single thing on Zhang from Skill Factory or elsewhere since he signed? Is he even in the US anymore? Can’t remember the last time there was this little information on a recruit, even the international ones. Think I had seen a tweet that he was back in China playing with the youth squad of a pro team there, but now I can’t find it, so who know if that’s true…. I’m with 05 in that I’m expecting very little from Zhang until it’s confirmed he’s on campus next year. Ya he is playing in china Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, wgstl said: Ya he is playing in china Any stats/highlights/etc? I can’t find anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: Any stats/highlights/etc? I can’t find anything no, couldn't find a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, wgstl said: no, couldn't find a thing. Would’ve been nice to see him active on the prep circuit to get a better little idea of where he’s at. Let’s pretend he’s just so good that Travis sent him back to China so he didn’t explode on the prep circuit and get poached by a blue blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSLU68 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Bills By 40 said: We're talking about next year, Perkins and Thatch both have to be gone. Gibby already graduated, I'd be surprised (but thrilled) to see him return. Gibson has gotten more minutes and been beaten up by the opposition worse than any player in my 30 plus years of watching you would have thought Thatch or someone else who is tough would have taken his defender out. I am from the ESide and would like to see Hargrove set a pick that puts a dirty defender on his back. Gibson will stay to prove out his talent if he gets some help- no coach in the country would give him the minutes Ford does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Where is Rivera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Light Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 57 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: Would’ve been nice to see him active on the prep circuit to get a better little idea of where he’s at. Let’s pretend he’s just so good that Travis sent him back to China so he didn’t explode on the prep circuit and get poached by a blue blood. I don't know how much bball is being played in China right now. They are having their most dangerous COVID outbreak yet right now. It may be hard to get verifiable information out of there for the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I will be surprised if Bruce ever sets foot on the SLU campus again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, JMM28 said: I will be surprised if Bruce ever sets foot on the SLU campus again. Does seem to be the most likely result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Breach of contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1764 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Oh great, now the new bigs will underachieve under Ford. I’m still on the can him bandwagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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