ACE Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Sure, nepotism played a factor. But nepotism is everywhere - in business, politics and sports. Just look at the coaching ranks. Lebron had leverage and used it to get his kid's foot in the door. It was a late second round pick, typically a roll of the dice anyway. Whether the kid ultimately makes it or not, will be on his ability. Some of this strikes me as a bit of Lebron derangement syndrome. Quote
Crewsorlose Posted February 18 Posted February 18 27 minutes ago, ACE said: Sure, nepotism played a factor. But nepotism is everywhere - in business, politics and sports. Just look at the coaching ranks. Lebron had leverage and used it to get his kid's foot in the door. It was a late second round pick, typically a roll of the dice anyway. Whether the kid ultimately makes it or not, will be on his ability. Some of this strikes me as a bit of Lebron derangement syndrome. The problem is that it took money away from a person like Yuri Collins. Bronny did nothing to distinguish himself at USC and had a health scare that would cause almost every team to back off. He can't shoot or ball-handle although he's a nice athlete with a feel for the game. It was entirely idiotic that he left for the pros after doing nothing at the college level. And idiotic of the Lakers to waste a pick on him. Sure, most 2nd rounders don't make it, but Jalen Wells was in the future stars, AJ Mitchell has been a rotation player for OKC, and about ten other 2nd rounders have made an impact. The Lakers are in no way good enough to punt on a 2nd round pick to appease Lebron. Quinten Post was drafted #52 and is helping the Warriors when games important for their seeding. It's gross what Lebron and the Lakers did. A slap in the face to every kid out their busting their ass to make the league and give their families wealth that they're unlikely to find elsewhere. Billikenbooster 1 Quote
thetorch Posted February 18 Author Posted February 18 There are 540 roster spots in the NBA. These are not the best 540 players in the world. There are 2-3000 guys playing pro across the globe who if given the opportunity could not only make a roster but could potentially be a rotation player or even star in the NBA. Getting on an NBA roster is all about timing, and opportunity and potential. Skill frankly doesn't count as much. Bronny, while talented, had a way better chance at a spot because of his father. Without that last name he wouldn't have entered the draft this year and the chances of him making a roster would be minimal. Just throw him in the pool with all the other guys and he's most likely not getting a serious look. CenHudDude 1 Quote
3star_recruit Posted February 18 Posted February 18 44 minutes ago, ACE said: Sure, nepotism played a factor. But nepotism is everywhere - in business, politics and sports. Just look at the coaching ranks. Lebron had leverage and used it to get his kid's foot in the door. It was a late second round pick, typically a roll of the dice anyway. Whether the kid ultimately makes it or not, will be on his ability. Some of this strikes me as a bit of Lebron derangement syndrome. No NBA superstar has had this amount of leverage before to get his kid on a roster while he's still a player. This may be the last time we see it. Usually by the time an NBA player is 40 years old he's a bench player, not putting up 24, 8 and 9. You know you're the most visible star in the league when, just by being related to you, your kid's jersey sales break the rookie record. ACE 1 Quote
ACE Posted February 18 Posted February 18 42 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: No NBA superstar has had this amount of leverage before to get his kid on a roster while he's still a player. This may be the last time we see it. Usually by the time an NBA player is 40 years old he's a bench player, not putting up 24, 8 and 9. You know you're the most visible star in the league when, just by being related to you, your kid's jersey sales break the rookie record. Yep, in addition to making their star happy, it made good business sense. Quote
Cowboy II Posted February 18 Posted February 18 2 hours ago, 3star_recruit said: No NBA superstar has had this amount of leverage before to get his kid on a roster while he's still a player. This may be the last time we see it. Usually by the time an NBA player is 40 years old he's a bench player, not putting up 24, 8 and 9. You know you're the most visible star in the league when, just by being related to you, your kid's jersey sales break the rookie record. -wow Quote
thetorch Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 4 hours ago, 3star_recruit said: No NBA superstar has had this amount of leverage before to get his kid on a roster while he's still a player. This may be the last time we see it. Usually by the time an NBA player is 40 years old he's a bench player, not putting up 24, 8 and 9. You know you're the most visible star in the league when, just by being related to you, your kid's jersey sales break the rookie record. While some really high jersey sales numbers were floated in the offseason, those numbers are under dispute. Bronny didn't make the top 15 jersey list put out late last month by the NBA. Hard to believe he put out those numbers and didn't show up on that list. Every other high impact rookie in the past has. More likely the jerseys were "produced" and not sold. Quote
SLURadioBoy Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Congrats to Yuri! cgeldmacher, Zink, 3star_recruit and 5 others 8 Quote
Pistol Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Goodwin had 20 minutes last night, including a lot down the stretch as the Lakers beat the Blazers. He broke a defender's ankles for a 3PA and proceeded to completely brick the shot. That was his only FGA of the evening. 5 rebounds, though. DirtyRican 1 Quote
almaman Posted February 21 Posted February 21 fun. to watch. easy. to isolate on him as only real reason watching, he always seems on the ball Quote
ACE Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Goodwin made a key play grabbing an airball and kicking out to Lebron for a 3. He may be the right fit for that team - doing the dirty work. BTW, Lebron scoring 40 points at the age of 40 is very impressive. Bay Area Billiken and CenHudDude 2 Quote
Minerva N. Owl Posted February 23 Posted February 23 On 2/21/2025 at 12:30 PM, almaman said: fun. to watch. easy. to isolate on him as only real reason watching, he always seems on the ball JGood looking good again tonight. Nationally televised on ABC. KDNL 30 in St. Louis. Big game: Lakers at Nuggets. Limited minutes for JGood in the first half, but when he was in he looked completely at home in his role: defensive disruptor and rebounder; on D force turnovers and crash the offensive boards to provide second chance shots for others. Let's see what JGood does in the second half. Nuggets have dominated the Lakers for a long time, but the Lakers have the halftime lead and a lot of energy tonight, including from JGood. Quote
Minerva N. Owl Posted February 23 Posted February 23 On 2/21/2025 at 3:58 PM, ACE said: Goodwin made a key play grabbing an airball and kicking out to Lebron for a 3. He may be the right fit for that team - doing the dirty work. BTW, Lebron scoring 40 points at the age of 40 is very impressive. The other day JGood kicked out to Lebron. Saturday night in Denver Lebron returned the favor to JGood, who nailed a corner 3, which basically iced the game. Soon afterwards Denver threw in the towel and emptied their bench. I saw a statistic that claimed in the G League Goodwin's 3 point shooting is still not great(30%), but from the corner Goodwin apparently was 40% this season for South Bay. Lakers fans keep calling for the LA to convert Goodwin's contract so he'll be eligible for the playoffs. For now his rebounding, disruptive D and corner 3 approach seems to have earned him a place in the rotation of the Lebron/Luka show. Highlights of JGood in the Feb 22 Lakers takedown at Denver here: Billiken Rich and Bay Area Billiken 2 Quote
Duff Man Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Jordan Goodwin now part of a Lakers rotation in that includes LeBron and Luka. He is living the dream. He defends, he rebounds, he wins those loose balls, and as long as he continues to knock down open 3s, (first year Lakers coach) JJ Redick is going to keep giving him real minutes. The Lakers still have time to decide if and how they're going to convert Goodwin from a two-way into a standard NBA contract which would make him eligible for the playoffs, but it's certainly trending in that direction. CenHudDude, Bay Area Billiken and Pistol 3 Quote
thetorch Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 Hearing that barring injury that Goodwin will be on a standard deal by the end of the season. The March 1st deadline is key as that is the last day a player can be released by an NBA team but remain playoff eligible if signs with another team. Up until the final day of the season a player can be signed to a regular roster deal and be eligible for the playoffs so Goodwin may have to wait awhile on his deal. Buyout candidates for the lakers are Cam Reddish and Markief Morris with Cam Reddish being the more obvious one. The Lakers still might want to take a look and see what bigs are available after the March 1st deadline but since they are over the tax apron they can only sign a player who was making less than 12.8 million dollars. The market for bigs is poor, and with that salary restriction it gets only worse. Goodwin has another couple good outings Reddish could very well be released on March 1st. Then it is just a matter of time before Goodwin is signed to a regular deal. Pistol 1 Quote
Cowboy II Posted February 24 Posted February 24 8 hours ago, thetorch said: Hearing that barring injury that Goodwin will be on a standard deal by the end of the season. The March 1st deadline is key as that is the last day a player can be released by an NBA team but remain playoff eligible if signs with another team. Up until the final day of the season a player can be signed to a regular roster deal and be eligible for the playoffs so Goodwin may have to wait awhile on his deal. Buyout candidates for the lakers are Cam Reddish and Markief Morris with Cam Reddish being the more obvious one. The Lakers still might want to take a look and see what bigs are available after the March 1st deadline but since they are over the tax apron they can only sign a player who was making less than 12.8 million dollars. The market for bigs is poor, and with that salary restriction it gets only worse. Goodwin has another couple good outings Reddish could very well be released on March 1st. Then it is just a matter of time before Goodwin is signed to a regular deal. -so the Lakers don't need to rush signing JGood to a contract? I wish they would but they are running the team Quote
thetorch Posted February 25 Author Posted February 25 13 hours ago, Cowboy II said: -so the Lakers don't need to rush signing JGood to a contract? I wish they would but they are running the team Yes. If they don't want to spend extra money they won't sign him. But he also has a limited number of games that he can play under his 2 way, I think he is only eligible to play 14 more games. So he will have to be signed by the time he reaches that limit if they want to keep playing him. Quote
Cowboy II Posted February 25 Posted February 25 9 hours ago, thetorch said: Yes. If they don't want to spend extra money they won't sign him. But he also has a limited number of games that he can play under his 2 way, I think he is only eligible to play 14 more games. So he will have to be signed by the time he reaches that limit if they want to keep playing him. -thanks Quote
ACE Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Yuri has just entered his game - both he and JGood playing at the same time. NextYearBill 1 Quote
almaman Posted February 26 Posted February 26 9 hours ago, ACE said: Yuri has just entered his game - both he and JGood playing at the same time. watched on multi screen. had to keep switching for audio Quote
Duff Man Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Jordan Goodwin keeps playing and the Lakers keep winning. 7 points in 13 minutes on 3-5 FG, 1-2 3P, 2 steals, +8 +/- against the Twolves as the Lakers improved to 6-1 in games Goodwin has played in, as they reinvent themselves with Luka alongside LeBron. https://x.com/LakersLead/status/1895356258150195438 https://x.com/ShowCaseShabazz/status/1895343316486828119 Quote
HoosierPal Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Goodwin 'grade' from last night's Lakers victory over the Wolves, courtesy of Silver Screen and Roll, SBNation Jordan Goodwin 13 minutes, 7 points, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 2 steals, 3-5 FG, 1-2 3PT, +8 A nice bounceback game from Goodwin, who continues to prove his value. The Lakers might have to make a decision at the end of the season about whether to sign him to a standard NBA contract so that he’s playoff eligible. Grade: B+ https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2025/2/27/24374732/player-grades-lakers-wolves-box-score-stats-lebron-james-luka-doncic-austin-reaves Quote
RUBillsFan Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Last night +/-: Jordan Goodwin: +8 Luka Doncic: 0 Pretty clear that JGood should be starting & taking minutes from that freeloader Luka. AGB91 1 Quote
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