GOSLU68 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 How long before players who have been played for money in international leagues come back and play at university level if they did not use up their eligibility or never started college? It would seem if everyone can pay players- the whole must be an amateur status should be history WVBilliken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 So I know it’s a bit ridiculous to say, but it is technically accurate when speaking of NILs. International pros are being paid direct for playing basketball (costing amateur status). NCAA players getting NILs are not being paid to play basketball...they are being paid for their personal name, image, and likeness instead of their performance on the court. I know the distinction is pretty silly and clearly an oftentimes dishonest distinction. For now though, that is the company line on what is happening. 3star_recruit and MusicCityBilliken like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy II Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 -interesting question, not that it would apply to all with your question but is there currently an age limit in the NCAA for student/athletes? BYU sends some s/a's to compete that are older than the competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Cowboy II said: -interesting question, not that it would apply to all with your question but is there currently an age limit in the NCAA for student/athletes? BYU sends some s/a's to compete that are older than the competition According to the NCAA, there is no set age limit for any athletes. However, Division I athletes are required to enroll in school one calendar year after high school graduation and then have just five years to complete a typical four-year degree. How’s that for NCAA doublespeak? They may as well say “There is no age limit, but we will place limits on it so there actually are”… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord Elrond said: According to the NCAA, there is no set age limit for any athletes. However, Division I athletes are required to enroll in school one calendar year after high school graduation and then have just five years to complete a typical four-year degree. How’s that for NCAA doublespeak? They may as well say “There is no age limit, but we will place limits on it so there actually are”… That isn't accurate. You can enroll in college for the first time at age 38 and be a scholarship athlete if you're good enough. The clock starts ticking when you enroll so you have 5 years after that unless you get a waiver. BilliesBy40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someoneelse Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 13 hours ago, JMM28 said: That isn't accurate. You can enroll in college for the first time at age 38 and be a scholarship athlete if you're good enough. The clock starts ticking when you enroll so you have 5 years after that unless you get a waiver. Back in the '80s, Georgia Tech had Yvon Joseph who was 27 and playing for the Yellow Jackets. Georgetown had Ronnie Highsmith, who did a stint in the Army, and was 28 and playing for the Hoyas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I believe once you play for pay you revoke your amateur status forever. NIL is not play for pay but capitalizing on your own NIL. Kids coming in from overseas have to be properly vetted and cleared before they can play college ball. No one is going overseas, getting paid, then coming back to play college ball. Plus the five-years-to-play-four window will easily close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Taj79 said: I believe once you play for pay you revoke your amateur status forever. NIL is not play for pay but capitalizing on your own NIL. Kids coming in from overseas have to be properly vetted and cleared before they can play college ball. No one is going overseas, getting paid, then coming back to play college ball. Plus the five-years-to-play-four window will easily close. Correct. NIL stuff doesn't affect your amateur status anymore. It is just separate now. Even the USGA and R&A (for those who aren't familiar, the R&A in the UK is the most hardcore of the hardcore golf hardos. Like "golf is a gentleman's game" type stuff) updated their terms of amateurism to have a similar view re: NIL so a good additional benefit is college golfers can use NIL deals but maintain their am status for competitive golf. From the R&A: Modernisation of the Rules of Amateur Status As part of the modernisation effort, the new Rules identify only the following acts that will result in a golfer losing their amateur status: Accepting a prize with a value exceeding the prize limit (£700/$1000) or accepting prize money in a handicap competition. Playing as a professional. Accepting payment for giving instruction (although all current exceptions still apply, such as coaching at educational institutions and assisting with approved programmes). Accepting employment as a golf club professional or membership of an association of professional golfers. To achieve this simplified approach, the following key changes have been introduced: Distinguishing between scratch and handicap competitions in terms of the prizes that may be accepted. The prize rule applies only to tee-to-hole competitions played on a golf course or a simulator but no longer apply to long-drive, putting and skills competitions that are not played as part of a tee-to-hole competition. Eliminating all advertising, expense-related and sponsorship restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Jim Thrope rolling over in his burial mound 4sure https://www.ksdk.com/article/sports/olympics/jim-thorpe-reinstated-sole-winner-1912-olympic-golds-pentathlon-decathlon/507-416a5564-e4ea-4bcb-a2b6-cc3efbd95550 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Taj79 said: I believe once you play for pay you revoke your amateur status forever. NIL is not play for pay but capitalizing on your own NIL. Kids coming in from overseas have to be properly vetted and cleared before they can play college ball. No one is going overseas, getting paid, then coming back to play college ball. Plus the five-years-to-play-four window will easily close. Yes. You can go back and play a different sport though. There are a lot of former minor league baseball players that go back and play their other sport at age 25-28. JR Smith, ex-NBA player, is on the golf team at some school currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 @JMM28=== agreed. I however was limiting my interpretation to making money in the sport you played, i.e. basketba;;. JR Smith is a great example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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