nimble Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 As new as I am to this board, I assume this topic has been brought up before. I fantasize regularly about SLU starting a football program again. I can't think of a single reason why Saint Louis University, the first program to have the forward pass, shouldn't be involved with football. After a quick internet search (always the #1 tool for knowledge) I have gathered that Pioneer League (non scholarship D1 FCS) program spends roughly $1M-$1.5M per year on a football program. This is definitely within SLU's reach. While I know this probably won't happen in my lifetime (without a powerball win from your's truly), I hope Saint Louis University can find a way to embrace their past in today's #1 sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thgenBill Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Will never happen due to title 9. Tons of players/scholarships needed for football. We would be required to offer a similar number of additional roster spots in women’s sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimble Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 @4thgenBill I'm not an expert with Title IX, but the Pioneer League only has programs that don't provide scholarships which I assume means SLU could give more women the opportunity to play sports in college without scholarships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy II Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 -how do you know $1 to $1.5mil are within the reach of the ADept? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimble Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 Considering SLU tuition is $50,000, I assume that adding 75-90 players without athletic scholarships would pay for the program by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thgenBill Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, nimble said: @4thgenBill I'm not an expert with Title IX, but the Pioneer League only has programs that don't provide scholarships which I assume means SLU could give more women the opportunity to play sports in college without scholarships. They would have to add sports with the roster spots to accommodate them. So coaches, travel, facilities, etc. Though I am thinking that football has some sort of exemption either in full or part to the title nine numbers. That’s what I get for trying to do work at 9 on a Sunday nimble likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimble Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 I'm not saying it would be easy, but I think the athletic department could make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSLU68 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 We certainly would have a place to play unless the local politicians hold us up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Why aren't we going to the moon on our own. Add a million students at $50K and we could easily compete with Musk. Good gravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Honesty, Nimble can fund the football team. I see no concerns with how we would start a team, recruit talent, compete in D1, or eventually turn a profit. All easy. Go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Go to St. Chuck and COMO for your FCS and FBS fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 hours ago, cheeseman said: Why aren't we going to the moon on our own. Add a million students at $50K and we could easily compete with Musk. Good gravy Nope, you would fall short. Do not forget that you have to house, feed and teach the students. As far as the moon or Mars go, I would let Musk and whoever wants to volunteer to go there have a go at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, Old guy said: Nope, you would fall short. Do not forget that you have to house, feed and teach the students. As far as the moon or Mars go, I would let Musk and whoever wants to volunteer to go there have a go at it. Sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I just checked how Duquesne fields a football team: they open with Florida State (whoa) also they have road game to Hawaii. I have no idea how good they are but do know that the Allegheny and Monongahela River valleys are fertile recruiting areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny karate Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 How does lindenwood support football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I have never wanted a SLU football team till this year. I don’t think I can stand to watch Notre Dame anymore. If I have to watch a team fail through incompetence, then let it be SLU. So, let’s ‘wake up the echoes.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, AnkielBreakers said: I have never wanted a SLU football team till this year. I don’t think I can stand to watch Notre Dame anymore. If I have to watch a team fail through incompetence, then let it be SLU. So, let’s ‘wake up the echoes.’ I don't think I can even picture it in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 SLU football undefeated since 1949. Go Billikens! BrettJollyComedyHour likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 If you want to see a team fail for incompetence, just head west 2 hours. You can cry in your beer with Truman every week. Davis likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, slu72 said: SLU football undefeated since 1949. Go Billikens! This is always my argument against a football team why come back when we've been on top for so long? AlumniFan and AGB91 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 If Dayton, Valpo, Drake and Davidson can operate a Pioneer Conference football team, so can SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 hours ago, brianstl said: If Dayton, Valpo, Drake and Davidson can operate a Pioneer Conference football team, so can SLU. Before we invest in football, let’s get the Washington Generals, er, the field hockey program beyond the D3 level. (Note: This needs some blue font, but really, why is that program so bad?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, billikenbill said: Before we invest in football, let’s get the Washington Generals, er, the field hockey program beyond the D3 level. (Note: This needs some blue font, but really, why is that program so bad?) How much time do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, billikenbill said: Before we invest in football, let’s get the Washington Generals, er, the field hockey program beyond the D3 level. (Note: This needs some blue font, but really, why is that program so bad?) Yeah and what about the cross country team. If N Arizona can have a nationally ranked program, so can SLU. Let’s get the priority straight. Spend recruiting dollars on trips to Africa. No blue font here. willie likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, billikenbill said: Before we invest in football, let’s get the Washington Generals, er, the field hockey program beyond the D3 level. (Note: This needs some blue font, but really, why is that program so bad?) So it's interesting to think about right? I think I've talked about it before but even before talking about being good at Field Hockey(and similarly tennis), I would like to see the Athletic Department try to focus on returning all sports back to campus. But again that's kind of a double edged sword. Field Hockey fields are really expensive and if you're going to spend the money on a new facility you have to be ready to fully fund the program in a way that expects middle of the road or better. Same with Tennis, you literally tore down the on campus tennis facility to build Chaifetz. If you fork out the money for a new tennis facility, you will once again need to support it into a middle of the road program. If you're not ready to fully fund a program after bringing it back to campus, you're wasting time and money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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