slufanskip Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 hours ago, NoCoBillsFan said: Yeah, I never saw him as selfish either. He would have some questionable shot attempts at times but he seemed to make the passes he was supposed to and mostly ran within the offense. Personally, I didn’t think he got enough shots/plays ran for him. I would have liked to have seen him play a little more selfish at times. There were so many times I thought c'mon JNez assert yourself right now. I don't care if it results in a t/o or a missed shot, just take over. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 If three schools in 3 years doesn't scream headcase then I don't know what does. CAG 2nd act . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Can this thread be closed? cheeseman, stmdragons, BuiltFordBills and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 the biggest mistake nesbitt made imo was letting penny hardaway talk him out of his senior year of high school and sitting on the bench for a semester getting absolutely nothing out of that. it's pretty obvious penny is a horrible coach, so he learned nothing and gained zero game experience. in hindsight his decision to come to slu was not good either. his mindset and skillset did not mesh with ford and forced the current situation. not ford's fault. at least not all of it. both should have understood what the other wanted/expected upfront and maybe he could have found the better scenario from the onset. i definitely dont think it is fair to nesbitt to paint the awful picture many here are making of the happening. he isnt anything like gordon who was ready to fight the entire roster at the end. i havent heard a discouraging word about nesbitt and his teammates. so that doesnt appear to be a valid comparison. just let him move on and wish him luck. we got enough problems assembling a complete roster right now. let's just let nesbitt find that situation that fits him the best. i agree with coach. close this thread. we arent accomplishing anything here. majerus mojo, rgbilliken, slufanskip and 3 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 36 minutes ago, bauman said: If three schools in 3 years doesn't scream headcase then I don't know what does. CAG 2nd act . 1) The guy had a newborn son in St. Louis. That difference alone makes the comparison irrelevant. 2) Get used to it. Since Carte'are's freshman year the Covid chaos, easing of transferring protocols, and money coming into the college game has and will continue to accelerate the frequency of transferring. 3) Just taking recent Billiken examples - Marten Linssen, Tramaine Isabell, Miles Reynolds and Zeke Moore all played for three schools in three or four (when including sitting out) years. Jalen Johnson was with four schools in four years, but didn't play last year due to injury. It's simply not the "headcase" hallmark you think it is. BuiltFordBills, majerus mojo, hmart23 and 5 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Nesbitt to Hampton University. How the mighty has fallen. Whoever mentioned Carteare Gordon 2.0 you’re spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fraz said: Nesbitt to Hampton University. How the mighty has fallen. Whoever mentioned Carteare Gordon 2.0 you’re spot on I don't think going to Hampton now is as big of a deal as it would have been 3-5 years ago. Going to HBCUs has become a lot more popular lately, as evidenced by how Deion is recruiting at Jackson St in FB. It is a transfer down for sure, but they're in the Colonial now. It's not exactly comparable to Grambling in the true depths of D1 WAIT - I just looked on Kenpom - they're in the Big South??? I knew they moved conferences and just assumed CAA because of his photoshop. Thats a PS mess up. Maybe it is bad? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Fraz said: Nesbitt to Hampton University. How the mighty has fallen. Whoever mentioned Carteare Gordon 2.0 you’re spot on Sad to say, but that’s probably the right fit for a number of reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Just wish the guy the best. He came from a tough place and has a daughter. I wish him the best on the court and in the classroom. NoCoBillsFan, Zink, Slowry and 4 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Littlebill said: WAIT - I just looked on Kenpom - they're in the Big South??? I knew they moved conferences and just assumed CAA because of his photoshop. Thats a PS mess up. Maybe it is bad? LOL I think they’re joining the CAA this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUDad 21 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Hampton moved from the MEAC to the Big South a few years ago, and are moving again to the Colonial, I believe beginning next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, DeSmetBilliken said: I think they’re joining the CAA this summer. That makes more sense, thanks. I can't keep up with all the low-major movement anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Woof. That is...a move. Hampton is a really bad team. Like Cupcake-that-gets-throttled-by-20-at-Mizzou level bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757billiken Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 I live less than a mile from Hampton's campus....I'll undoubtedly cross paths. Hampton, despite not being very good recently, always has a decent chance to make the dance because they only need to win their conference tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, brianstl said: Just wish the guy the best. He came from a tough place and has a daughter. I wish him the best on the court and in the classroom. And he is so concerned about his daughter that he will leave St. Louis to go to Hampton. Right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowry Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, bauman said: And he is so concerned about his daughter that he will leave St. Louis to go to Hampton. Right! That’s not a fair statement. There are plenty of jobs that take you away from your family. Doesn’t mean men that do these jobs have less concern about their children/families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 He would be able to get a NIL deal there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 23 hours ago, Coach314 said: He would be able to get a NIL deal there Why do you say that? Without doing any research, I would assume that kids playing basketball at Hampton will not get NIL deals. Do you have different information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: Why do you say that? Without doing any research, I would assume that kids playing basketball at Hampton will not get NIL deals. Do you have different information. https://hamptonpirates.com/news/2021/7/1/general-big-south-releases-nil-guidelines.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Coach314 said: https://hamptonpirates.com/news/2021/7/1/general-big-south-releases-nil-guidelines.aspx Just asking....what is the value of a Saint Louis University education these days? TaLBErt likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Coach314 said: https://hamptonpirates.com/news/2021/7/1/general-big-south-releases-nil-guidelines.aspx What you posted is just the guidelines. Every school has to do that. This doesn't mean that he will get any deal which is governed by those guidelines while at Hampton. Do you have any reason to believe that he is going to get NIL deals while playing at Hampton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: What you posted is just the guidelines. Every school has to do that. This doesn't mean that he will get any deal which is governed by those guidelines while at Hampton. Do you have any reason to believe that he is going to get NIL deals while playing at Hampton? There are quite a few HBCU athletes getting NIL deals. Just throwing out a possible reason for his choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Coach314 said: There are quite a few HBCU athletes getting NIL deals. Just throwing out a possible reason for his choice Aren't they all 5 stars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: What you posted is just the guidelines. Every school has to do that. This doesn't mean that he will get any deal which is governed by those guidelines while at Hampton. Do you have any reason to believe that he is going to get NIL deals while playing at Hampton? trouble understanding this ? both times. is Hampton in some situation different than the other 354 programs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Coach314 said: There are quite a few HBCU athletes getting NIL deals. Just throwing out a possible reason for his choice I'm glad to hear that. By this I mean that I am glad that HBCU schools can get that sort of support. I am not, in general, a fan of the system that allows it, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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