SLUMedBilliken15 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Don't get mad at the prodigal son. Throw him a party and cue the Pitbull! Bills By 40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 In fairness to Yuri, he went thru the NBA evaluation thing & did it during this new NIL era & did it in an era of open college free agency - all of these things were things that players just a few years ago did not have to navigate. Also, keep in mind that there are a variety of hucksters and opportunists who get in the ear of these young players. Often the "advice" they are hearing is not well-informed or in the best interest of the player. I have no hard feelings at all toward Yuri. We should all be thankful and appreciative that he stayed and fought back some forces pulling him in a different direction. Also, on the positive, this situation may have prompted SLU and its boosters to become more pro-active and better equipped to deal with the NIL era... if that's the result, then this incident (and near disaster) actually turned into a positive. billikenbill, BilliesBy40, SLUMedBilliken15 and 6 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Actually there is one thing that may be of interest to MBMers. Thames played a lot of point guard in the drills and did a solid job of defending Yuri. He is clearly being considered for the backup point guard position. NoCoBillsFan, Billiken Rich, slufanskip and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I'm weighing on the side that he was intrigued about the possibility of making a ton of money, and wanted to check that out. In order to check that out further, he would have had to enter the portal. Either didn't care for what he saw, or SLU was able to offer something that he liked. We'll never know but winning will be the fastest remedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlow Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 How is Kramer blending in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, ACE said: In fairness to Yuri, he went thru the NBA evaluation thing & did it during this new NIL era & did it in an era of open college free agency - all of these things were things that players just a few years ago did not have to navigate. Also, keep in mind that there are a variety of hucksters and opportunists who get in the ear of these young players. Often the "advice" they are hearing is not well-informed or in the best interest of the player. I have no hard feelings at all toward Yuri. We should all be thankful and appreciative that he stayed and fought back some forces pulling him in a different direction. Also, on the positive, this situation may have prompted SLU and its boosters to become more pro-active and better equipped to deal with the NIL era... if that's the result, then this incident (and near disaster) actually turned into a positive. The positive side of your post is spot on. As soon as Yuri announced SLU responded quickly to give the players additional resources to set themselves up money making deals. At the time I thought wow this was the first time SLU responded to an issue so quick. My personal feeling is that Yuri, if he has another great season, will get a great NIL deal from a top school that he dreams of playing for and get a chance of being the point guard for a National champion team. My belief is that the only reason he is not playing for Tennessee is because of tampering. majerus mojo likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Marlow said: How is Kramer blending in? Defended Fred a lot and held his own. He's the only guard we have strong enough to even have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Marlow said: How is Kramer blending in? He's built like a tank for only being 18. Certainly the most physically ready of the freshman. Will he crack the rotation? Probably not but I hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, 3star_recruit said: Defended Fred a lot and held his own. He's the only guard we have strong enough to even have a chance. Not your typical freshman body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Defended Fred a lot and held his own. He's the only guard we have strong enough to even have a chance. 11 minutes ago, Bills By 40 said: He's built like a tank for only being 18. Certainly the most physically ready of the freshman. Will he crack the rotation? Probably not but I hope I'm wrong. Is Thames not there yet for a frosh? He seemed liked it in a few pics Ive seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Defended Fred a lot and held his own. He's the only guard we have strong enough to even have a chance. Travis Diener was built like an alter boy but was pretty effective on the court. Suspect Thames will be The Man, long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, wgstl said: Is Thames not there yet for a frosh? He seemed liked it in a few pics Ive seen. Thames and Kramer are both good defenders. I was talking specifically about matching up with the top bully baller on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Thames and Kramer are both good defenders. I was talking specifically about matching up with the top bully baller on the team. gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Billiken Rich said: I hate to be that guy but is anyone else still feeling a little salty about the Yuri Collins saga? I know he came back but when I see him I just don't feel warm and fuzzy inside anymore........It seems more like hiring a disinterested one year free agent in baseball. I know I have to get over it if I'm ever going to enjoy NCAA basketball again but it sticks in my craw none the less..... Nah. Time to move on. JohnnyJumpUp likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny karate Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 My thoughts are popcorn was still great, thatch stood out (he looks ready), and momo was a bigger surprise. Perkins fell a couple times near basket. That made me nervous though I'll need to get past that. Sweeper got in the way one time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 45 minutes ago, Box and Won said: Nah. Time to move on. I think there's room to harbor some sort of feelings. I wouldn't blame MBMs if they had cooled on their excitement about him or even raise their expectations of him after this summer. slufan13 and billiken_roy like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewsorlose Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Okay, not seeing much intel on the scrimmage. I thought there was plenty to see, but I'll try not to be repetitive Kramer's legs are huge. Almost like Thatch. Ford stopped drills a couple of times because Cisse and Parker didn't understand. I'd view Cisse as similar to Traore (which I think is a good comp, as I thought Traore would have been a starter by his jr. year). It was only a scrimmage, but Parker looked lost out there for part of it Yuri and TJ have insane chemistry. Pickett is the prototypical "face up 4" in the A-10. Big shouldered, not esp. tall. I think we'll like him Perkins seems very hesitant physically. I think we'll need to be patient as it may take some time for the guy who'd be running point in 1-4 sets to close out games and finishing over guys in traffic. Beyond the locks of Okoro and Yuri, I wouldn't pen anyone into the starting lineup, including Perkins. The two JPs, Hargrove, Thatch, Jimerson as all legit options to start. Those 7 + Forester form a clear top 8. I imagine Thames has the longest leash for getting rotation minutes due to ball handling. Was more impressed with Hughes than I expected. Looked like he belonged. Would love to be wrong about Parker. billiken_roy, Old guy and BilliesBy40 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Crewsorlose said: Okay, not seeing much intel on the scrimmage. I thought there was plenty to see, but I'll try not to be repetitive Kramer's legs are huge. Almost like Thatch. Ford stopped drills a couple of times because Cisse and Parker didn't understand. I'd view Cisse as similar to Traore (which I think is a good comp, as I thought Traore would have been a starter by his jr. year). It was only a scrimmage, but Parker looked lost out there for part of it Yuri and TJ have insane chemistry. Pickett is the prototypical "face up 4" in the A-10. Big shouldered, not esp. tall. I think we'll like him Perkins seems very hesitant physically. I think we'll need to be patient as it may take some time for the guy who'd be running point in 1-4 sets to close out games and finishing over guys in traffic. Beyond the locks of Okoro and Yuri, I wouldn't pen anyone into the starting lineup, including Perkins. The two JPs, Hargrove, Thatch, Jimerson as all legit options to start. Those 7 + Forester form a clear top 8. I imagine Thames has the longest leash for getting rotation minutes due to ball handling. Was more impressed with Hughes than I expected. Looked like he belonged. Would love to be wrong about Parker. i thought parker was very good in shoot around before drills started. then i agree in the drills and 3 on 3 and 4 on 4's he disappeared. i think he will be fine. he is obviously quite an athlete. a lot of jucos just roll the balls out to some degree and dont really play high level intellectual basketball. so i will give him time to learn. i too was impressed with hughes. i thought in shootaround, his release seemed slow. but in the drills he seemed to have no issue getting shots off and he is a maker. i think he is in discussions on PT at this point imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy II Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 -saving most of my stuff until after Friday -I thought it was a practice with drills, not a scrimmage -one thing that continues to confuse me is why we don't practice like we should play, that is allowing traveling and not inbounding properly stood out yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Crewsorlose said: Okay, not seeing much intel on the scrimmage. I thought there was plenty to see, but I'll try not to be repetitive Kramer's legs are huge. Almost like Thatch. Ford stopped drills a couple of times because Cisse and Parker didn't understand. I'd view Cisse as similar to Traore (which I think is a good comp, as I thought Traore would have been a starter by his jr. year). It was only a scrimmage, but Parker looked lost out there for part of it Yuri and TJ have insane chemistry. Pickett is the prototypical "face up 4" in the A-10. Big shouldered, not esp. tall. I think we'll like him Perkins seems very hesitant physically. I think we'll need to be patient as it may take some time for the guy who'd be running point in 1-4 sets to close out games and finishing over guys in traffic. Beyond the locks of Okoro and Yuri, I wouldn't pen anyone into the starting lineup, including Perkins. The two JPs, Hargrove, Thatch, Jimerson as all legit options to start. Those 7 + Forester form a clear top 8. I imagine Thames has the longest leash for getting rotation minutes due to ball handling. Was more impressed with Hughes than I expected. Looked like he belonged. Would love to be wrong about Parker. There's plenty to see in every practice. But trying to make offensive projections based on drills seems to me a waste of time. If that meant anything, Andre Lorentsson would have started. CBFan likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 12 hours ago, Billiken Rich said: I hate to be that guy but is anyone else still feeling a little salty about the Yuri Collins saga? I know he came back but when I see him I just don't feel warm and fuzzy inside anymore........It seems more like hiring a disinterested one year free agent in baseball. I know I have to get over it if I'm ever going to enjoy NCAA basketball again but it sticks in my craw none the less..... No - it's like going the extra mile to keep a superstar that has helped lead your team for the last three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 hours ago, wgstl said: Is Thames not there yet for a frosh? He seemed liked it in a few pics Ive seen. He is, but Kramer specifically is built like a brick sh!t house. I'm much more confident after yesterday that Thames could be the backup PG we need but I'm interested in seeing him scrimmage against Yuri on Friday. Side-effect/unmentioned benefit - Having Yuri practice against 6'6-7" Thames every day is a great way for him to sharpen that weak point of his game. Include me in the "overly impressed by Hughes" camp. Seems very offensively talented but I'm not certain he has enough of everything else to be offensively talented enough to crack the rotation. He did in one drill try a 360 layup that Ford then called him out for, but I suspect that's just an 18-year old kid thing to do. I think any criticism of Parker is premature and maybe unwarranted. He looked fine to me, and in front of a crowd of more people than he'd draw in any of last season's games. The way the coaching staff speaks of him I think we should trust they're not full of sh!t. Pickett is a body. He'll see time at the 4 nearly every game and will be good at it, too. That option means we should see a lot of four out with slashers and Okoro dominating the paint. I was very impressed with Momo. He's been with the team less so far than anybody so I'm giving the BOD for some things I saw but what I know is 1) he's long. Tall and long. Looks like an 8' wingspan. 2) He can stretch the floor better than any other big we have and have had in a while. 3) He has the potential to be an absolute terror on the A10. majerus mojo likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 According to Stu, the last scholarship could still be filled... Travis Ford said he it’s possible he still might fill the 13th scholarship. “We’re looking at a couple of options right now.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Beyond what has already been written. Nick Kramer’s shot is beautiful. Not saying it’s better or ever will be better, but just from a technical standpoint it’s prettier than GJim. Perfect arch and rotation and hands finish textbook. He was nailing them in the warm ups but struggled making them during the scrimmages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, slufanskip said: Beyond what has already been written. Nick Kramer’s shot is beautiful. Not saying it’s better or ever will be better, but just from a technical standpoint it’s prettier than GJim. Perfect arch and rotation and hands finish textbook. He was nailing them in the warm ups but struggled making them during the scrimmages I believe you meant: “Hands [a] Finnish textbook.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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