someoneelse Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Sad to see this. I had envisioned him as a player who would develop, then contribute. Maybe he wants to skip the develop part. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Ya I mean he's going to transfer down forsure. But thought he could develop into something. Not nearly as big as Nesbitt. More surprising maybe. Think this is an indication that our boy T Ford is working the portal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I’m betting this means Ford and Co. have at least one more big they are expecting to sign. Traore was probably told he would have the same role next year as he did this year. He wanted to play more so he left. Can’t blame the kid. I hope he does well but I’m expecting someone better to take his place. I put this loss on par with Lorenston and Strickland. So in my eyes it’s no big deal. The Nesbitt loss still stings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 hours ago, billiken_roy said: well this disappoints me more than even nesbitt. This makes no sense to me, not sure if you are joking with this post or not. Nesbitt showed significantly more talent and potential when compared to Traore. Nesbitt will be a huge loss for this team, Traore is just the next Austin Gillman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, JohnnyJumpUp said: This makes no sense to me, not sure if you are joking with this post or not. Nesbitt showed significantly more talent and potential when compared to Traore. Nesbitt will be a huge loss for this team, Traore is just the next Austin Gillman. What? Do you mean in utility or skill? Gillman never improved in my view, Traore actually has potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquinas Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 My vote for most entertaining Billiken moment this year..... The Traore jig. willie, DOC, Young Charles and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSLU68 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Nesbit and Traore both could be major contributors for SLU if they developed. We have had players in past happy to remain as they were as freshmen. It takes a lot of work. Hopefully, there are two bigs for us in the portal that rebound and block shots and do as well as our remaining Francis Okoro has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, BrettJollyComedyHour said: What? Do you mean in utility or skill? Gillman never improved in my view, Traore actually has potential. Traore has potential, not saying that he doesn't. I am just saying Nesbitt is more of a what could have been type player, vs Traore who will be just another player who has come and gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, BrettJollyComedyHour said: What? Do you mean in utility or skill? Gillman never improved in my view, Traore actually has potential. Isn’t Traore already 22? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, brianstl said: Isn’t Traore already 22? I....thought he was like 20? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, brianstl said: Isn’t Traore already 22? Yes 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 12 hours ago, JohnnyJumpUp said: This makes no sense to me, not sure if you are joking with this post or not. Nesbitt showed significantly more talent and potential when compared to Traore. Nesbitt will be a huge loss for this team, Traore is just the next Austin Gillman. LOL forgot about Austin Gillman.... too funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 With immediate eligible transfer this will be the normal going forward. Kids do not want to wait for playing time and now they do not have to sit a year. I liked watching kids develop but this is the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, dennis_w said: With immediate eligible transfer this will be the normal going forward. Kids do not want to wait for playing time and now they do not have to sit a year. I liked watching kids develop but this is the way it is. Also with how often coaches move, most kids will likely see 3 schools during their time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatskablamo Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, wgstl said: Also with how often coaches move, most kids will likely see 3 schools during their time That’s a shame. Whatever happened to the word “loyalty?” Maybe I’m from the Roy and Taj old school class, but this just takes the word and flushes it down the old toilet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 So much for that Victory Rock Prep pipeline... He could have been a nice defensive piece off the bench. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, thatskablamo said: That’s a shame. Whatever happened to the word “loyalty?” Maybe I’m from the Roy and Taj old school class, but this just takes the word and flushes it down the old toilet. no loyalty from the players or coaches just business. i am old school too. fandom has changed billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, NextYearBill said: LOL forgot about Austin Gillman.... too funny That's exactly my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, thatskablamo said: That’s a shame. Whatever happened to the word “loyalty?” Maybe I’m from the Roy and Taj old school class, but this just takes the word and flushes it down the old toilet. If free agency would have existed 30 years ago, there would not have been "loyalty" then either. That's what free agency does. dennis_w and BilliesBy40 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 4 hours ago, NextYearBill said: LOL forgot about Austin Gillman.... too funny I played one summer of CYC ball with Austin Gillman so I personally REALLY wanted him to be good. BrettJollyComedyHour likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 28 minutes ago, Bills By 40 said: I played one summer of CYC ball with Austin Gillman so I personally REALLY wanted him to be good. I did too which is why I was constantly frustrated with him, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 traore would be doing his jig around the likes of austin gillman every practice as he dominated him rebounding, scoring and defensively. gillman would be crying and asking to go back to econ class. gillman was no traore. Fraz likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 5 hours ago, billiken_roy said: traore would be doing his jig around the likes of austin gillman every practice as he dominated him rebounding, scoring and defensively. gillman would be crying and asking to go back to econ class. gillman was no traore. I have trouble dissing a kid who only took the schollie that was offered him. It was not his fault that Crews could not evaluate talent or get talent. The kid ultimately did the right thing and bowed out his senior year so we Ford could have the schollie to give. SLU_Lax, RUBillsFan, BuiltFordBills and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, cheeseman said: I have trouble dishing a kid who only took the schollie that was offered him. It was not his fault that Crews could not evaluate talent or get talent. The kid ultimately did the right thing and bowed out his senior year so we Ford could have the schollie to give. The "right thing" cuts both ways. Gillman did the right thing for the new coach and the team. However, in my opinion, you could also consider that the right thing for himself may well have been staying and finishing his degree at SLU free of charge. This option would have resulted in an advantage for himself and a disadvantage for the team and the coach. Not every action a kid does is self centered, as a lot of people may think. Gillman may have left because he cared about what was best for the team, again this is hypothetical not factual. And, no, I do not know Gillman or ever talked with him, his family, or friends. I think there are some remaining traces of "loyalty" that may be found in the actions players take at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Old guy said: The "right thing" cuts both ways. Gillman did the right thing for the new coach and the team. However, in my opinion, you could also consider that the right thing for himself may well have been staying and finishing his degree at SLU free of charge. This option would have resulted in an advantage for himself and a disadvantage for the team and the coach. Not every action a kid does is self centered, as a lot of people may think. Gillman may have left because he cared about what was best for the team, again this is hypothetical not factual. And, no, I do not know Gillman or ever talked with him, his family, or friends. I think there are some remaining traces of "loyalty" that may be found in the actions players take at times. He did graduate but technically had another year of eligibility which he passed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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