AnkielBreakers Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I like Bell, maybe would love to see him back, but he really is not the highest priority for the team. If we did not replace Linssen, I think we would be fine. We really need to replace D. Jones. I would almost rather we bring in two backup PG’s, but if we did, we would probably lose both centers to injury. We really need an heir apparent for Yuri. The two young guys from Mizzou would really fit our needs. A PG and a PF(who could spot center at times). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, CBFan said: Traore’s rebounding and defense was good coach Ford confirmed that in an interview. I agree Bell would be a decent fill in for Okoro but it will depend on what Bell wants to do. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Butler coach, will he be fired? If the Butler coach is fired will Turnbull want a release? If he wants a release then that is the player I would like to see recruited hard by SLU. Taking your Turnbull comment OT, here is an interesting article about Butler's decision to go to the Big East. They pretty much had to accept the invite, but they are finding the road rocky, primarily due to $$. Yes, the Big East has brought in a lot of money through attendance, NCAA Tourney $, increased donations, etc. but Butler is suffering from being last in the Big East in basketball budget. Butler's budget of $5.85 million is 11th in the BE and would be 5th in the Atlantic 10. They are closer in $$ to Fordham than they are to Xavier. The Big East’s two biggest budgets belong to Marquette ($14.04 million) and Georgetown ($13.81M). https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/butler/2022/01/25/butler-basketball-wouldnt-solve-problems-firing-coach-lavall-jordan/6587900001/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, CBFan said: Traore’s rebounding and defense was good coach Ford confirmed that in an interview. I agree Bell would be a decent fill in for Okoro but it will depend on what Bell wants to do. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Butler coach, will he be fired? If the Butler coach is fired will Turnbull want a release? If he wants a release then that is the player I would like to see recruited hard by SLU. would bell want to be a billiken knowing he likely will get limited minutes behind franco or doesnt he want starter minutes?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, dennis_w said: would bell want to be a billiken knowing he likely will get limited minutes behind franco or doesnt he want starter minutes?? He's familiar with the offence and defense, so that may help collect a few extra minutes early. He'll likely, as of now, be the starter the following year. And is friends with the team already. I think those factor in. - Not that it matters to me, I'm not sure I want JBJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, CBFan said: Traore’s rebounding and defense was good coach Ford confirmed that in an interview. I agree Bell would be a decent fill in for Okoro but it will depend on what Bell wants to do. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Butler coach, will he be fired? If the Butler coach is fired will Turnbull want a release? If he wants a release then that is the player I would like to see recruited hard by SLU. I think Traore has the athleticism, plus defense and rebounding to be a solid 2nd big. Defense is what this roster is currently lacking, so Traore is a good fit. We have enough scorers. For the 3rd big, rather than a Jimmy Bell type low-post player, I'd rather see a stretch big who could provide some minutes at the 5, but could also get some minutes at the 4 alongside Okoro. billiken_roy and bauman like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, CBFan said: Traore’s rebounding and defense was good coach Ford confirmed that in an interview. I agree Bell would be a decent fill in for Okoro but it will depend on what Bell wants to do. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Butler coach, will he be fired? If the Butler coach is fired will Turnbull want a release? If he wants a release then that is the player I would like to see recruited hard by SLU. would bell want to be a billiken knowing he likely will get limited minutes behind franco or doesnt he want starter minutes?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I can see Jimmy at Oakland. Gets minutes and is closer to home in Lansing. I always admired him for his discipline and would like to have him back, but he’s likely got a sour taste because we brought in Linssen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, dennis_w said: would bell want to be a billiken knowing he likely will get limited minutes behind franco or doesnt he want starter minutes?? I think Bell would have a battle to beat out Traore who is more athletic and better fitted for the style of offense that Ford is running. Traore was quite impressive at times and with a big Summer could be a factor IMO. dennis_w, 2010andBeyond and CBFan like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, WVBilliken said: Traore who is better fitted for the style of offense that Ford is running. which is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, wgstl said: which is? Walk the ball up and have Yuri dribble for 30 seconds. Traore is really good at standing and watching. basebill123, billikenbill and wgstl like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, wgstl said: which is? I still get confused why so many people are asking this question. What answer are people looking for? What are some of the types of offenses that people would expect us to run? Do people actually think that we do not have an offense, or are they just unhappy with the offense we do have? Travis Ford's offense has always been a pro-style approach, in which we run a high number of set plays (look at Michigan or Purdue for another example of this type of approach). This means that on most offensive possessions Travis is calling a set play. We do also sometimes run a "flow", but the frequency has diminished over the years. Our sets tend to be very ball screen heavy, which has become increasingly common as more NCAA teams have taken schemes from the NBA. In the last two years, Travis has adjusted that offense to be more "4-out" and we less frequently play high-low or have someone in the dunker spot. Examples of offenses we don't really run include: the Princeton offense, triangle offense, dribble-drive offense, read-and-react offense, blocker-mover, traditional "Bobby Knight motion". DOC, rgbilliken, Pistol and 4 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlow Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Noah Carter, who averaged 15 ppg as a sophomore at Northern Iowa, has entered the portal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 LaSalle’s Clifton Moore in the portal. He’ll be a great get for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, NH said: I still get confused why so many people are asking this question. What answer are people looking for? What are some of the types of offenses that people would expect us to run? Do people actually think that we do not have an offense, or are they just unhappy with the offense we do have? its sorta a joke.. during GDT's everyone is screaming that we don't do anything, and its just Yuri running around. And we always hear how we want to get out and run the the floor on offense and in transition, something we rarely do. Just because you have a set offensive scheme, it doesn't mean its always used and or used currently, that's maybe the argument that could be made from this past season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, NH said: I still get confused why so many people are asking this question. What answer are people looking for? What are some of the types of offenses that people would expect us to run? Do people actually think that we do not have an offense, or are they just unhappy with the offense we do have? Travis Ford's offense has always been a pro-style approach, in which we run a high number of set plays (look at Michigan or Purdue for another example of this type of approach). This means that on most offensive possessions Travis is calling a set play. We do also sometimes run a "flow", but the frequency has diminished over the years. Our sets tend to be very ball screen heavy, which has become increasingly common as more NCAA teams have taken schemes from the NBA. In the last two years, Travis has adjusted that offense to be more "4-out" and we less frequently play high-low or have someone in the dunker spot. Examples of offenses we don't really run include: the Princeton offense, triangle offense, dribble-drive offense, read-and-react offense, blocker-mover, traditional "Bobby Knight motion". Thank you. This isn’t rocket science, guys. hmart23 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Torvik’s ranking of transfers in the portal. https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&xvalue=trans&year=2022&minmin=0&start=20211101&end=20220501 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, billikenbill said: Torvik’s ranking of transfers in the portal. https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&xvalue=trans&year=2022&minmin=0&start=20211101&end=20220501 That's interesting. I was very impressed with Carter when he played against us. I would guess Iowa or Iowa State. Funk would be ideal on our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, billikenbill said: Torvik’s ranking of transfers in the portal. https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&xvalue=trans&year=2022&minmin=0&start=20211101&end=20220501 Interesting ..... very mid-major heavy. Power 5 not losing near as many players at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Marlow said: Noah Carter, who averaged 15 ppg as a sophomore at Northern Iowa, has entered the portal. He played great against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowry Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 21 hours ago, NH said: Our sets tend to be very ball screen heavy, Very true. But what’s frustrating is watching our guys use screens. Especially Yuri. He leaves enough room for the defender to stay on him a lot. It doesn’t seem like our guys brush their defenders off very well. drkelsey55 and Billikenbooster like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 The portal is now at 800 and counting. Plenty of opportunities to pick up players who will be able to help. I'm not really a fan of this guy's game, (but IF Javonte doesn't come back) could Pickett be an option. Not nearly the caliber of player of Javonte, but there would be a role for an experienced player like that and he could be better playing with a good PG - that's one big selling point we have to recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Slowry said: Very true. But what’s frustrating is watching our guys use screens. Especially Yuri. He leaves enough room for the defender to stay on him a lot. It doesn’t seem like our guys brush their defenders off very well. I agree. Our use of screens was high schoolish. We were as bad using screens as we were defending screens. BuiltFordBills, billiken_roy, Billikenbooster and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Anyone who knows me knows how Grant Golden is the bane of my existence. I can't shake that man no matter what, even through his blood relatives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, ACE said: The portal is now at 800 and counting. Plenty of opportunities to pick up players who will be able to help. I'm not really a fan of this guy's game, (but IF Javonte doesn't come back) could Pickett be an option. Not nearly the caliber of player of Javonte, but there would be a role for an experienced player like that and he could be better playing with a good PG - that's one big selling point we have to recruits. I'm sure Tate will reach out to him. willie likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 https://www.si.com/college/westvirginia/recruiting/in-huggins-search-for-rebounding-wvu-offers-610-270-lb-juco-forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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