How the Atlantic 10 stacks up with the Big East

[Brighton]

Academics (USNWR Rankings)
#23 Georgetown
#49 Villanova
#63 UConn
#83 Marquette
#103 Creighton
#103 Saint Louis
#103 Loyola Chicago
#127 DePaul
#127 Seton Hall
#127 Dayton
#172 St. John's
#172 VCU
#1 (Regional) Butler
#1 (Regional) Providence
#5 (Regional) Xavier

 

Endowment
VCU - $1,992,338,000
Georgetown - $1,863,711,000
Saint Louis - $1,197,421,000
Villanova - $805,425,000
DePaul - $737,037,000
St. John's - $719,681,000

Loyola Chicago-$710,000,000
Marquette - $693,731,000
Dayton - $609,712,000
Creighton - $565,975,000
UConn - $476,181,000
Seton Hall - $265,193,000
Providence - $234,228,000
Butler - $211,953,000
Xavier - $198,613,000

Enrollment
UConn - 32,669
VCU - $31,076
DePaul - 21,922
St. John's - 21,721
Georgetown - 19,371
Saint Louis - 11,823

Loyola Chicago- 11,612
Marquette - 11,550
Dayton - 11,241
Villanova - 10,942
Seton Hall - 9,815
Creighton - 8,770
Xavier - 7,112
Butler - 5,544
Providence - 4,816

Media Market Rankings
#1 New York City (St. John's and Fordham)
#3 Chicago (Loyola and DePaul)
#4 Philadelphia (Villanova, St. Joes, and LaSalle)
#6 Washington D.C. (Georgetown, George Mason, and George Washington)
#23 St. Louis (Saint Louis)

#24 Pittsburgh (Duquesne)
#28 Indianapolis (Butler)
#33 Hartford/New Haven (UConn)
#35 Cincinnati (Xavier)
#36 Milwaukee (Marquette)
#53 Providence (Providence)
#56 Richmond (VCU and Richmond)
#64 Dayton (Dayton)
#69 Omaha (Creighton)

Home Basketball Attendance (from 2020) / Arena Capacity 
Creighton - 17,314 / 18,320
Marquette - 15,145 / 17,341
Dayton - 13,364 / 13,435
Villanova - 11,299 / 20,478 (Wells Fargo), 6,501 (Finneran)
Seton Hall - 10,328 / 18,711
Xavier - 10,311 / 10,224
Providence - 10,064 / 12,410
UConn - 9,199 / 10,167 (Gampel), 15,600 (XL)
Butler - 8,617 / 9,100
Georgetown - 7,931 / 20,356
VCU - 7,637 / 7,637
Saint Louis - 6,880 / 10,600
St. John's - 6,236 / 19,812 (MSG), 5,602 (Carnesecca)
DePaul - 5,187 / 10,387

Loyola Chicago- 3,215/ 4,963

NCAA Tournament Bids 
39 - Villanova
33 - Marquette
33 - UConn
31 - Georgetown
29 - St. John's
28 - Xavier
22 - Creighton
20 - Providence
18 - Dayton
18 - DePaul
18 - VCU
16 - Butler
13 - Seton Hall
10 - Saint Louis

7- Loyola Chicago

 

NCAA Tournament - Sweet 16s
18 - Villanova
17 - UConn
16 - Marquette
11 - Georgetown
9 - St. John's
8 - DePaul
8 - Xavier
7 - Dayton
6 - Butler
5 - Providence

5- Loyola Chicago 
4 - Creighton
4 - Seton Hall
2 - Saint Louis
1 - VCU

NCAA Tournament - Elite Eights
13 - Villanova
11 - UConn
9 - Georgetown
7 - Marquette
6 - St. John's
4 - Providence
3 - Dayton
3 - DePaul
3 - Xavier
2 - Butler
2 - Seton Hall

2- Loyola Chicago
1 - Creighton
1 - Saint Louis
1 - VCU

 

Basketball Budget

Marquette: $15.0 million

10 Villanova: $14.4

12 Georgetown: $13.6

20 Providence: $11.1

34 St. John's: $10.0

41 Uconn: $9.3

51 Creighton: $8.6

68 Seton Hall: $7.5

72 Saint Louis: $7.4

72 Dayton: $7.4

73 Xavier: $7.4

VCU: $7.2

80 DePaul: $6.8

90 Butler: $5.8

Loyola Chicago: $5.5

[Slu let the dogs out?]

Looking at this quickly on my phone while simultaneously ordering Nacho Mamas but curious why you chose to keep some schools off certain lists? Fordham USNWR ranking would be 4th. What’s Richmond’s endowment?

I’ll take a pint of spicy salsa too please 

[almaman]

17 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said:

Looking at this quickly on my phone while simultaneously ordering Nacho Mamas but curious why you chose to keep some schools off certain lists? Fordham USNWR ranking would be 4th. What’s Richmond’s endowment?

I’ll take a pint of spicy salsa too please 

like the fish tacos

[willie]

I am not sure what Endorsements have to do with any of this but I am surprised at how pedestrian Georgetown’s Endowment is. I would have thought it would have been several multiples of this. 

[brianstl]

8 minutes ago, willie said:

I am not sure what Endorsements have to do with any of this but I am surprised at how pedestrian Georgetown’s Endowment is. I would have thought it would have been several multiples of this. 

It is the third largest for a Catholic University.  Boston College is number 2.  That surprised me. SLU comes in fourth.

[willie]

Georgetown is a very prestigious university with a lot of politically connected alumni. Just surprised they have done a better job of raising money. 

[Old guy]

Georgetown is inside DC, that means there are no State subsidies to the University and they have to do what they do with Federal and alumni funds plus endowments. I believe they have to dip deeper into the endowment than other Catholic Universities receiving State funds.

[willie]

3 hours ago, brianstl said:

It is the third largest for a Catholic University.  Boston College is number 2.  That surprised me. SLU comes in fourth.

 

1 hour ago, Old guy said:

Georgetown is inside DC, that means there are no State subsidies to the University and they have to do what they do with Federal and alumni funds plus endowments. I believe they have to dip deeper into the endowment than other Catholic Universities receiving State funds.

Private Universities don’t get state funds or government funds unless they are research grants. I am not talking about PEL type grants which go to individual students. 

[Old guy]

Every major University with Law School, Med School, and active basic science research programs gets a lot of grants, Georgetown is included in this group. However Georgetown's grants come from Federal sources and from private corporations. There are no state grants supporting Georgetown's research. I am not up to date in Georgetown's research achievements, so I will mention only two. Kidney Dialysis was developed and first used in patients through research at 4 Medical Centers including Georgetown (Schreiner), and flexible laparoscopes were developed and brought to use in a number of Medical Centers including Georgetown (Brick). The government finances the bulk of research in the US, both via State Grants and Fed. Grants. Without these grants private Universities would be unable to finance and support a lot of their facilities.

Willie, there is a hell of a lot more that is involved in financing a major University (SLU included) that goes way beyond students and student fees or grants. Research is a major source of income for SLU as it is for Georgetown, and MIT.