NH Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 NM, HoosierPal already covered it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 The first player Tate said Ford is really high in is Hargrove - which is consistent with the Rothstein tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 The assessment on Traore is nice news ... we'll have to wait and see how true it is. Top ten? Perkins, Collins, Okoro, Linssen, Hargrove, Thatch, Jimerson, Williams, Nesbitt and Jones? Leaves out holdovers Lorentson and Strickland along with Traore. I hope we get to see some of those last three in our first five games (exhibitions included) just for knowledge/evaluation sake. Lorentson is a real mystery as is Traore but I really liked what I saw from Strickland in minor minutes last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, ACE said: The first player Tate said Ford is really high in is Hargrove - which is consistent with the Rothstein tweet. If Hargrove can defend well enough at the 3, Nesbitt can slide over to the 2. Williams, Thatch, Jimerson and Linssen would be the most potent bench in the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 i think a lot depends on which jimmmmerson shows up. get us the deadeye sniper, i am playing him. we get the one after covid last year that seemed more than lost, well then i am fine playing hargrove over him. i also want to see strickland get every opportunity. man that is a lot of god given athleticism. he and hargrove together would keep people in their seats till the end. but i also understand with this much talent (as compared to previous billiken rosters) ford can insist on defense, rebounding and just flat out knowing the system and what to do to dole out PT. remember the days when sekue was good enough to start? long way baby! dennis_w, HenryB and BIG BILL FAN like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, billiken_roy said: i think a lot depends on which jimmmmerson shows up. get us the deadeye sniper, i am playing him. we get the one after covid last year that seemed more than lost, well then i am fine playing hargrove over him. i also want to see strickland get every opportunity. man that is a lot of god given athleticism. he and hargrove together would keep people in their seats till the end. but i also understand with this much talent (as compared to previous billiken rosters) ford can insist on defense, rebounding and just flat out knowing the system and what to do to dole out PT. remember the days when sekue was good enough to start? long way baby! I disagree slightly on Jimerson. Get him the ball when he's open, and he's a dead eye sniper that you can go with. Get him the ball with a defender right in his face, and he feels like he has to jack up a quick shot over the defender's outstretched hand, and you will get the Jimerson that seems more lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Also, if Hargrove blows up this year, the narrative that the coaching staff can't develop players needs to go away. SLUMedBilliken15 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: I disagree slightly on Jimerson. Get him the ball when he's open, and he's a dead eye sniper that you can go with. Get him the ball with a defender right in his face, and he feels like he has to jack up a quick shot over the defender's outstretched hand, and you will get the Jimerson that seems more lost. This is what Tate was inferring, Jimerson overthought his shot last season. I believe (hope) that Tate was saying that Gibson has improved on his shot process. Pistol likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: Also, if Hargrove blows up this year, the narrative that the coaching staff can't develop players needs to go away. I thought Bess developed quite a bit during his career here. The coach can't do it all either. The player has to buy in, be willing to put in the work and make adjustments when necessary. cgeldmacher likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: This is what Tate was inferring, Jimerson overthought his shot last season. I believe (hope) that Tate was saying that Gibson has improved on his shot process. That is great to hear. We discussed how Jimerson's shot changed throughout the year (flatter trajectory, less lift on his jump, etc.). I always felt those changes were material factors in his struggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, cgeldmacher said: Also, if Hargrove blows up this year, the narrative that the coaching staff can't develop players needs to go away. or maybe we need to question why he didnt play more before. willie and HenryB like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, BilliesBy40 said: That is great to hear. We discussed how Jimerson's shot changed throughout the year (flatter trajectory, less lift on his jump, etc.). I always felt those changes were material factors in his struggles. In addition to likely recovering from COVID during the 2nd part, last year was the first "full" season Jimerson played at the college level. He played only 10 games in 2019-20 before he got hurt. His shooting slump last season really started with the 14th game of the season. He shot 43.7% from 3 for the 1st 13 games and then 26.1% for the next 8. Hopefully he's better prepared for the rigors of a full season. BilliesBy40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Just now, billiken_roy said: or maybe we need to question why he didnt play more before. I think the issue was that he did not start hitting his perimeter shots until later in the season and as has been mentioned previously, his defense also started to get better. Maybe he has really worked on it. He is a match up problem with his athleticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, cheeseman said: I think the issue was that he did not start hitting his perimeter shots until later in the season and as has been mentioned previously, his defense also started to get better. Maybe he has really worked on it. He is a match up problem with his athleticism. TJ had some interesting three point numbers. In the first 5 games he hit 5 of 7 (71%). Then he went 0-7 during the next 7 games. He finished the last 7 games a 9-19 (47%). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: or maybe we need to question why he didnt play more before. Play more over who? Jimerson played well in the first half of the season and Thatch played well in the second half. And Goodwin played the same minutes he always played. With Goodwin gone, there are more minutes up for grabs. That was always going to be case. The kids behind him knew that when they signed up here. cheeseman and SLUMedBilliken15 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 7 hours ago, ACE said: Corey Tate will be on with Frank and Rammer at 11. Here’s the link to the audio. Go to segment 4 https://590thefan.com/radio-shows/press-box/ HenryB and dennis_w like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Valley Sucks Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Why isn’t Carbondale on the schedule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 42 minutes ago, The Valley Sucks said: Why isn’t Carbondale on the schedule? I could be making this up but I think we were supposed to play them and something happened with the scheduling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 8 hours ago, The Valley Sucks said: Why isn’t Carbondale on the schedule? I think your screen name explains it BilliesBy40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 hours ago, NH said: I could be making this up but I think we were supposed to play them and something happened with the scheduling Correct. We had the return game scheduled for this season but it was bumped back to next season. It's still happening. Not sure if the request to move it came from our end or theirs, not that it's a huge deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUMedBilliken15 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 College Sports Madness ranks us #69 https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/19762 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dennis_w Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 11:44 AM, Taj79 said: The assessment on Traore is nice news ... we'll have to wait and see how true it is. Top ten? Perkins, Collins, Okoro, Linssen, Hargrove, Thatch, Jimerson, Williams, Nesbitt and Jones? Leaves out holdovers Lorentson and Strickland along with Traore. I hope we get to see some of those last three in our first five games (exhibitions included) just for knowledge/evaluation sake. Lorentson is a real mystery as is Traore but I really liked what I saw from Strickland in minor minutes last year. I hope lorentson does gets some minutes just to get a hint as to what might be down the road. tate did not mention him and barely mentioned strickland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, dennis_w said: I hope lorentson does gets some minutes just to get a hint as to what might be down the road. tate did not mention him and barely mentioned strickland One issue with our relatively tough schedule is that it will be tough to find "garbage time" minutes for deeper bench players. The only games that I think we should expect to win by very large margins are the 2 exhibitions and the first 3 of the season (Central Ark, Harris Stowe, and Eastern Illinois). That being said, I'd imagine with those back to back games against Central Arkansas and Harris Stowe some of the deeper bench guys will get longer run than they normally would. That could be the primary reason for having the Harris Stowe game at all. dennis_w likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinert310 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 So, I started watching the Netflix documentary about pirates and found out that the most famous pirate of all-time, Blackbeard, his real name was Edward Thatch. Ed Thatch stole gold from Spanish ships. Fred Thatch steals passes from A10 rivals. Can’t possibly be a coincidence. RUBillsFan likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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