Reinert310 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 hours ago, RUBillsFan said: I understand they want to have a certain number of home games for season ticket holders, but why the heck are they playing Harris Stowe 11/10 the night after the UCA game 11/9. I don't see any upside to playing that game. Nov 24 - Dec 22 is a pretty brutal stretch with no "easy" games especially if we get Buffalo in the Cancun Challenge. Boston College is the easiest on paper. Crazy that in a 7 game non-conference stretch the weakest opponent might be the ACC team. I can't imagine that ever being the case in the past. I don’t know how accurate this is, but I’ve heard the argument being made that they wanted an extra game of experience under their belts before heading to Memphis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Reinert310 said: I don’t know how accurate this is, but I’ve heard the argument being made that they wanted an extra game of experience under their belts before heading to Memphis. I can see that I suppose. I can also see the back to back as sort of preparation for the Cancun Tournament back to back and then later the A10 tournament. The downside is injury risk / fatigue, but hopefully that's not an issue early in the season. I do like that the game will have no impact on the NET since Harris Stowe is not D1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinert310 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: I can see that I suppose. I can also see the back to back as sort of preparation for the Cancun Tournament back to back and then later the A10 tournament. The downside is injury risk / fatigue, but hopefully that's not an issue early in the season. I do like that the game will have no impact on the NET since Harris Stowe is not D1. Agreed. I think all 3 of those games are going to be the type (hopefully) where we clear our bench and everybody gets minutes, but the key rotation guys get more familiarity with each other at game speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, RUBillsFan said: I can see that I suppose. I can also see the back to back as sort of preparation for the Cancun Tournament back to back and then later the A10 tournament. The downside is injury risk / fatigue, but hopefully that's not an issue early in the season. I do like that the game will have no impact on the NET since Harris Stowe is not D1. no disrespect, but i have never bought into the fatigue factor of too many games in a row or a short period of time. practice is typically more taxing than playing the games. the starters typically play 20-30 minutes with a couple of breaks. practices are typically 2 hours of hard play. HenryB, drkelsey55, dennis_w and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 12 hours ago, NoCoBillsFan said: TJ in the starting lineup? T. Ford doesn’t normally lie, so it is a pretty interesting statement, and yeah, I would think he is currently a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, AnkielBreakers said: T. Ford doesn’t normally lie, so it is a pretty interesting statement, and yeah, I would think he is currently a starter. I would have to see the context of the statement. Did Rothstein ask whether Hargrove could be the second leading scorer and coach simply agreed that it's possible? Because if the same question was asked about Nesbitt, Okoro, Jimerson, Williams or Thatch he might have gotten a similar answer. It depends on who gets off to a good start to the season. bauman likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: I would have to see the context of the statement. Did Rothstein ask whether Hargrove could be the second leading scorer and coach simply agreed that it's possible? Because if the same question was asked about Nesbitt, Okoro, Jimerson, Williams or Thatch he might have gotten a similar answer. It depends on who gets off to a good start to the season. Agreed. Good news is that Hargrove has seen limited minutes early in the past two seasons because he wasn’t up to speed on the playbook and defensive coverages. The fact that Ford is saying anything in pre-season about him being a major contributor suggests to me he’s figured out his role in the team earlier than prior years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 44 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: I would have to see the context of the statement. Did Rothstein ask whether Hargrove could be the second leading scorer and coach simply agreed that it's possible? Because if the same question was asked about Nesbitt, Okoro, Jimerson, Williams or Thatch he might have gotten a similar answer. It depends on who gets off to a good start to the season. I have no idea if Rothstein is a die hard Bills fan, but if he is not, it would be strange for him to pick out TJ. Most likely, the question was “who besides Perkins stands out” and this probably was Ford’s response. It probably just means that TJ has had some standout play in their summer work. He defends and is an athlete. He can shoot surprisingly well. Wish he could create off a dribble drive more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 9 hours ago, AnkielBreakers said: T. Ford doesn’t normally lie, so it is a pretty interesting statement, and yeah, I would think he is currently a starter. We must listen to different interviews. Ford is full of coach-speak pumping up the players. brianstl and bauman like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 hours ago, AnkielBreakers said: I have no idea if Rothstein is a die hard Bills fan, but if he is not, it would be strange for him to pick out TJ. Most likely, the question was “who besides Perkins stands out” and this probably was Ford’s response. It probably just means that TJ has had some standout play in their summer work. He defends and is an athlete. He can shoot surprisingly well. Wish he could create off a dribble drive more. I can totally see Coach Ford describing TJ as our "X-factor" and Rothstein following up with "could he be your second leading scorer?". Coach is a very positive guy. He wouldn't dismiss the possibility out of hand. Coach just spoke with Chris May on his podcast and the player that seems to have outperformed expectations is Rashad Williams. Phil Forte told Zac and Peter the same thing. I think that's more significant than a hot take from Rothstein. AnkielBreakers likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy II Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 -nice looking schedule, like the Saturday nights and getting games in before going to Memphis, let's do our part and have the opponents do theirs so that on March 13 it is just a 'where' issue, not an 'if' issue -I guess the only complaint could be no UMSL to round out the group of Lindenwood, Rockhurst and Harris Stowe BilliesBy40 and HoosierPal like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cowboy II said: -nice looking schedule, like the Saturday nights and getting games in before going to Memphis, let's do our part and have the opponents do theirs so that on March 13 it is just a 'where' issue, not an 'if' issue -I guess the only complaint could be no UMSL to round out the group of Lindenwood, Rockhurst and Harris Stowe our own Big (little) 5. BilliesBy40 and HoosierPal like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 The roster is deep this year, lots of competition for playing time. I see the back to back games as a way of getting the guys who didn’t play as much in the CA game some playing time before Memphis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 8/25/2021 at 6:13 PM, Fan Guy said: Memphis added #3 Prospect Emoni Bates. That game will definitely be something. On 8/25/2021 at 6:27 PM, wgstl said: Can’t wait to beat them before they gel and go on a run. Both 6'9" Bates and 6'10" Duren reclassified to 2021. They are young. Bates is 17 (01/28/04). Duren will also be 17 (11/18/03) when we play them on 11/16. It's always a significant jump from HS to college. How quick will these two gel? How well will they be able to handle 6'9" 235 lb Okoro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 39 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Both 6'9" Bates and 6'10" Duren reclassified to 2021. They are young. Bates is 17 (01/28/04). Duren will also be 17 (11/18/03) when we play them on 11/16. It's always a significant jump from HS to college. How quick will these two gel? How well will they be able to handle 6'9" 235 lb Okoro? Bates looks his age and, to your point, will have difficulty adjusting to some of the physicality in D1. He is more of a ball-handler and perimeter player, so don’t expect to see him inside banging with guys like Okoro. One interesting thing about Bates is that he’s too young to go one-and-done, so he will either have to stay in college two years or go overseas or the G-League after his freshman season. Duren is almost the opposite type of player. He has an NBA-ready body right now and his game is built around power. I’ll be excited to see him match up with Okoro and Linssen. The one thing that stands out most about Memphis is their size and length. There will be times when their smallest player on the floor is 6’6”. Penny does a good job of using that size to suffocate teams on defense. Memphis’ weakness this year is similar to what it’s been each of Penny Hardaway’s three seasons. They turn the ball over way too much, and they have never had a good point guard play. If we can speed them up, force them into turnovers and contested twos, and keep them off the offensive glass, we will have a chance for sure. It’s a shame Jordan and Has never got to play Memphis, because it would have been fun to watch Memphis get served a taste of their own bully ball medicine. 3star_recruit, SLURadioBoy, HoosierPal and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, NH said: It’s a shame Jordan and Has never got to play Memphis, because it would have been fun to watch Memphis get served a taste of their own bully ball medicine. This thought came to mind almost immediately when looking at Memphis' roster for this season. Goodwin and French would give up length but give them a rough time. Turnover city. I expect Bates to have an uneven season. Young and still a bit lean but will show plenty of moments of brilliance because he's an extraordinary talent, can play anywhere at 6-9. Duren is ready to go, as you say. He was too much for BBE in the Peach Jam final. Listed at about 6-10, 230 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 We're unabashedly Team Blue but objectively speaking, anything less than a win against us is an embarrassment. Their entire starting lineup is 4 and 5 stars and two of their players are future Top 5 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Penny’s best recruit might well be Larry Brown. The guy can coach. Kudos to Penny for recognizing his X’s and O’s shortcomings and whatever other coaching skills needed upgrading. Since he’s been at Messphis he’s had talented players but that’s only one part of the equation. Brown may be the other part. SLU_Lax and TheChosenOne like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 8:33 AM, 3star_recruit said: I can totally see Coach Ford describing TJ as our "X-factor" and Rothstein following up with "could he be your second leading scorer?". Coach is a very positive guy. He wouldn't dismiss the possibility out of hand. Coach just spoke with Chris May on his podcast and the player that seems to have outperformed expectations is Rashad Williams. Phil Forte told Zac and Peter the same thing. I think that's more significant than a hot take from Rothstein. I listened to the podcast, and I didn’t hear a reference to Williams, but I heard Coach talk about how TJ has “had a good summer.” Do you know when he talked about RW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 26 minutes ago, AnkielBreakers said: I listened to the podcast, and I didn’t hear a reference to Williams, but I heard Coach talk about how TJ has “had a good summer.” Do you know when he talked about RW? Sorry, I referenced the wrong podcast. It was Zac and Peter's podcast starting at the 32:00 mark: https://anchor.fm/midtownmadnesspod/episodes/Season-2-Episode-1-Featuring-Head-Coach-Travis-Ford-e16afk1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 10 weeks till first real game. cgeldmacher likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 23 hours ago, almaman said: 10 weeks till first real game. Surprised we haven't heard a little more about our buy-games or the schedule in general by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, Compton said: Surprised we haven't heard a little more about our buy-games or the schedule in general by now. Non Conference schedule is out. https://slubillikens.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule Fan Guy, Compton and Littlebill like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Corey Tate will be on with Frank and Rammer at 11. NH and HoosierPal like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HoosierPal Posted September 1, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2021 Tate on Traore, "In two years he could be the face of SLU." He won't be redshirted. He will play. Frank asked about a starting lineup. Tate, "we have 10 guys that Coach would be comfortable putting out there at any given time." [I think that is our 10 (8+2) man rotation....who is left out?] Coach is really, really high on TJ Hargrove. He loves Collins like he is his son. On the new 'Shot Tracker' the team has used now for two years, Gibson is the leader. Gibson shoots 5,000 to 6,000 shots per week. The low end of the coach's expectation is 2,500 shots per week. Gibson had been over analyzing all his shots last season. NIL, discussed TJ with Bommarito, as has been covered already on this board. Coaches can point players to resources, but that is about their entire involvement. Tate: our selling point is 'opportunities in St. Louis'. In a college town, the opportunities are limited and could be 'tapped out' earlier than in a larger town like STL. Tate said we have one scholarship open for this team. SLU would have to sign any newcomer - for this season - by Friday. That puts the athlete enrolled in school. After Friday, the athlete wouldn't be eligible until semester break. Tate didn't say if anyone would sign or not. Backbone of the program will continue to be defense and rebounding. That won't change under Ford, ever. slufan13, billiken_roy, BuiltFordBills and 8 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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