slu72 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 The weave might be ok for the first trip down the floor, but after that it's pretty much a waste of time. It's the modern day version of 4 corners. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Another A10 MTE gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 BilliesBy40 --- so if I know they are going to switch every time, why am I running time off the clock to find out what I already know? If they are in a zone, like the Bills 1-3-1 half court zone, I can see that approaching the half court line. Any kind of zone is visible mostly at that line because it sets up at the foul line to 3 point line. Practically every college team runs a man-to-man that involves switching. If not that then hedging to close off the driving lane. The Bills have problems getting from the hedge back out to their man. We have lamented our 3 point defense ad infinitum here. The surprise element is when a zone does show up and you are confused for a trip or two. Or if you play Syracuse. Again, I'll watch closer this year. The only team I've ever seen run so much weave are the Harlem Globetrotters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 The tournaments sure don't seem to want us. Davidson? Seems like a pretty crappy field in terms of national prestige and recognition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmdragons Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Taj79 said: The tournaments sure don't seem to want us. Davidson? Seems like a pretty crappy field in terms of national prestige and recognition. What realistic options are still available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Taj79 said: BilliesBy40 --- so if I know they are going to switch every time, why am I running time off the clock to find out what I already know? If they are in a zone, like the Bills 1-3-1 half court zone, I can see that approaching the half court line. Any kind of zone is visible mostly at that line because it sets up at the foul line to 3 point line. Practically every college team runs a man-to-man that involves switching. If not that then hedging to close off the driving lane. The Bills have problems getting from the hedge back out to their man. We have lamented our 3 point defense ad infinitum here. The surprise element is when a zone does show up and you are confused for a trip or two. Or if you play Syracuse. Again, I'll watch closer this year. The only team I've ever seen run so much weave are the Harlem Globetrotters. Our lament of our 3 pt defense just shows how easy it is to misread what is actually happening. We didn’t give up many attempts per game at 19.5 per game and the percentage made against us is middle of the pack. The reality is we gave up about 6.5 3 pointers per game for less than 20 points per game. We’re called MBM’s for a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Taj79 said: The tournaments sure don't seem to want us. Davidson? Seems like a pretty crappy field in terms of national prestige and recognition. Once again denied to see the Bills play in the Palmetto State. This sucks. Does anyone know the protocols for these tourneys? Are the teams extended invites or do they apply to play them and then a committee makes a decision on who gets in? Recently, with the exception of last year, ie the Orlando tourney, we always seem to be on the outside looking in while teams like St. Joes, Duquesne, Davidson, etc get annual invites to the major ones with good fields. We'll probably get stuck with one of those where we get to host 2 lower level mids and then go someplace to play a P5 or 2 over two days rather than one that crowns a real champion. My guess is the committees take into consideration how well a team's fans travel, hence Dayton always getting in a prime time event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, slu72 said: Once again denied to see the Bills play in the Palmetto State. This sucks. Does anyone know the protocols for these tourneys? Are the teams extended invites or do they apply to play them and then a committee makes a decision on who gets in? Recently, with the exception of last year, ie the Orlando tourney, we always seem to be on the outside looking in while teams like St. Joes, Duquesne, Davidson, etc get annual invites to the major ones with good fields. We'll probably get stuck with one of those where we get to host 2 lower level mids and then go someplace to play a P5 or 2 over two days rather than one that crowns a real champion. My guess is the committees take into consideration how well a team's fans travel, hence Dayton always getting in a prime time event. I can’t speak for all tournaments, but it is more so an invitation situation for all of the big boys. It is a mix between the networks, and actual tournament organizers. Invites for the major tournaments are extended based predominantly on how many travel packages a fanbase projects to purchase, as well as their viewership numbers. Additionally, since in normal times these fields are booked 3 years in advance, there is a degree of projection on how good a team should be. An unfortunate issue with our program is lack of consistency makes it hard to provide SLU as a valuable bet to take for some of the bigger MTEs. Hopeful we get invited to something like Atlantis or a good Orlando field in the next 3-5 years if Travis can continue the consistency though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Taj79 said: BilliesBy40 --- so if I know they are going to switch every time, why am I running time off the clock to find out what I already know? If they are in a zone, like the Bills 1-3-1 half court zone, I can see that approaching the half court line. Any kind of zone is visible mostly at that line because it sets up at the foul line to 3 point line. Practically every college team runs a man-to-man that involves switching. If not that then hedging to close off the driving lane. The Bills have problems getting from the hedge back out to their man. We have lamented our 3 point defense ad infinitum here. The surprise element is when a zone does show up and you are confused for a trip or two. Or if you play Syracuse. Again, I'll watch closer this year. The only team I've ever seen run so much weave are the Harlem Globetrotters. Not that I want to continue this subject, but if every team is switching, then wouldn’t the weave help in finding favorable matchups? Maybe we run the weave to get Goodwin/Perkins against the player that can’t guard them well? Or the same for Yuri. Which would make a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Dayton in at Orlando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 If last year isn’t proof that this program has bad juju, then I don’t know what is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, johnbj14 said: I can’t speak for all tournaments, but it is more so an invitation situation for all of the big boys. It is a mix between the networks, and actual tournament organizers. Invites for the major tournaments are extended based predominantly on how many travel packages a fanbase projects to purchase, as well as their viewership numbers. Additionally, since in normal times these fields are booked 3 years in advance, there is a degree of projection on how good a team should be. An unfortunate issue with our program is lack of consistency makes it hard to provide SLU as a valuable bet to take for some of the bigger MTEs. Hopeful we get invited to something like Atlantis or a good Orlando field in the next 3-5 years if Travis can continue the consistency though. Lack of consistency? St. Joes and Davidson. Hello ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Brighton said: Lack of consistency? St. Joes and Davidson. Hello ? I’m just relaying information based on one event. It isn’t one factor that earns/doesn’t earn an invite. But Davidson was big enough of a pull to get a Maui invite last year (before it was no fans), so that should give you an idea on perception differences that organizers have between SLU and some of our conference mates. Whether travel or performance, there’s unfortunately a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 7 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Dayton in at Orlando Sheesh that’s brutal. Ku and bama likely top 5, Belmont should win 30, drake should be decent, Iona should provide entertainment off the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 11 hours ago, wgstl said: Sheesh that’s brutal. Ku and bama likely top 5, Belmont should win 30, drake should be decent, Iona should provide entertainment off the court. I mean, it is a worse field than the one last year. There were five ranked in the preseason last year, not including us. This one has two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, Littlebill said: I mean, it is a worse field than the one last year. There were five ranked in the preseason last year, not including us. This one has two. I guess for pre season ranking sure. But State, X and Auburn ended up having bad years (for them) including us. If you take how the teams ended up, it wasn't that strong of a field. It could also happen this year too, but I dont see ku or bama pulling a state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Tate just said some NFL scouts are calling around by Has. He is preparing for both basketball and football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Regarding the last two scholarships - Tate said absolutely they will be filled. BuiltFordBills likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuiltFordBills Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, ACE said: Regarding the last two scholarships - Tate said absolutely they will be filled. Are these tidbits from a radio broadcast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Going on right now with Frank. He's gushing about Okoro at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, ACE said: Going on right now with Frank. He's gushing about Okoro at the moment. https://590thefan.com/radio-shows/press-box/ 5/20/21 Segment 5. Tate said Okoro can hit the three. "Nesbitt is a 6'7" Jordan Goodwin." BuiltFordBills likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2021/2/17/22287581/2021-22-mens-college-basketball-exempt-multi-team-events-mte-thanksgiving-early-season-tournaments Updated list of MTE's. Here is the list of those not signed up. Notable Teams Not Yet Connected To An Event American (3/11): Tulane, Tulsa, UCF ACC (1/15): Georgia Tech A 10 (8/14): Fordham, George Mason, George Washington, La Salle, Rhode Island, Richmond, Saint Louis, UMass Big 12 (2/10): TCU, Texas Tech Big East (1/11): DePaul Big Ten (5/14): Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Nebraska, Rutgers MVC (4/10): Evansville, Illinois State, Missouri State, Valparaiso MW (4/11): Air Force, Fresno State, New Mexico, San José State Pac-12 (3/12): Utah, Washington, Washington State SEC (2/14): Georgia, Kentucky WCC (6/10): Pacific, Pepperdine, Portland, San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Clara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 lemme get Kentucky, Indiana, Texas Tech, SLU.... Vegas Slu let the dogs out? likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 hours ago, ACE said: Regarding the last two scholarships - Tate said absolutely they will be filled. I also heard the interview. He did say they will absolutely be filled then mumbled something like one could be saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 57 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2021/2/17/22287581/2021-22-mens-college-basketball-exempt-multi-team-events-mte-thanksgiving-early-season-tournaments Updated list of MTE's. Here is the list of those not signed up. Notable Teams Not Yet Connected To An Event American (3/11): Tulane, Tulsa, UCF ACC (1/15): Georgia Tech A 10 (8/14): Fordham, George Mason, George Washington, La Salle, Rhode Island, Richmond, Saint Louis, UMass Big 12 (2/10): TCU, Texas Tech Big East (1/11): DePaul Big Ten (5/14): Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Nebraska, Rutgers MVC (4/10): Evansville, Illinois State, Missouri State, Valparaiso MW (4/11): Air Force, Fresno State, New Mexico, San José State Pac-12 (3/12): Utah, Washington, Washington State SEC (2/14): Georgia, Kentucky WCC (6/10): Pacific, Pepperdine, Portland, San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Clara -hey ADept, let's run our own MTE, unless there is a rule that says we can't(we might want to have an outside source review given our 'we'll play a game after the A10 Tourney fun'), USF, UK, SLU, Texas Tech or Iowa, play Nov 24, 26 and 28, call WorldWide, Enterprise, everyone in town to get a sponsor, perhaps after Friday I'll sponsor it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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