almaman Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Old days are history. Each year maybe like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgbilliken Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) On 8/15/2021 at 7:46 AM, HoosierPal said: I copied this from the A10 Forum. This isn't my work. I wouldn't have had the patience to go through this like this poster did. Per Verbal Commits-1741 For the A-10 per A-10 Talk (as of 7/26): Men’s Basketball outgoing transfers: 69 Nice. 9 out to P6 60 out to non-P6 Men’s Basketball incoming transfers: 41 20 in from P6 20 in from non P6 1 in from D2 Davidson - 1 in from P6, 2 out to P6, 2 out to non-P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Foster Loyer (Michigan State) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Carter Collins (Murray State) Kellan Grady (Kentucky) Bates Jones (Duke) David Czerapowicz (TBA) Dayton - 2 in from P6, 1 in from non P6, 2 out to P6, 1 out to non P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Toumani Camara (Georgia) Richard Amaefule (ETSU) Kobe Elvis (DePaul) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Rodney Chatman (Vanderbilt) Dwayne Cohill (Youngstown State) Lukas Frazier (Ohio) Duquesne - 4 in from non P6, 1 in from D2, 1 in from P6, 8 out to non P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Leon Ayers III (Mercer) RJ Gunn (Lenoir–Rhyne [D-II]) Ryan Murphy (Tulane) Tre Williams (Indiana State) Kevin Easley (TCU) Pedro Castro (Houston Baptist) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Sincere Carry (Kent State) Lamar Norman Jr (Western Michigan) Marcus Weathers (SMU) Amari Kelly (UNCW) Tavian Dunn-Martin (FGCU) Chad Baker (San Diego State) Jett Roesing (Rider) Andre Harris (TBA) Fordham - 2 in from P6, 3 in from non P6, 10 out to non P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Patrick Kelly (Penn State) Darius Quisenberry (Youngstown State) Antonio Daye Jr (FIU) DJ Gordon (Penn State) Kam’Ron Cunningham (Mississippi Valley State) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Joel Soriano (St. John’s) Cameron Cohen (Santa Monica College) Ty Perry (Buffalo) Chris Austin (Portland) Mason Williams (TBA) Ivan Raut (TBA) Lazar Škorić (TBA) Julian Dozier Jr (TBA) Yame Butler (TBA) Onyinyechi Eyisi (TBA) George Mason - 2 in from non P6, 2 in from P6, 7 out to non P6, 2 out to P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): DeVon Cooper (Morehead State) Davonte Gaines (Tennessee) D’Shawn Schwartz (Colorado) Joel Kabimba (Stetson) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Greg Calixte (Bryant) Javon Greene (USF) Bahaïde Haïdara (St. Francis Brooklyn) AJ Wilson (South Carolina) Jordan Miller (Miami) Tyler Kolek (Marquette) Lysander Rehnstrom (Navy) Ian Boyd (TBA) Mehki McCray (TBA) George Washington - 3 in from P6, 2 in from non P6, 1 out to P6, 8 out to non-P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Brendan Adams (UConn) Joe Bamisile (Virginia Tech) Ire Lee (Arizona) Bryan Knapp (Cornell) Qwanzi Samuels (FGCU) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Lincoln Ball (American) Jamison Battle (Minnesota) Maceo Jack (Buffalo) Jameer Nelson Jr (Delaware) Sloan Seymour (New Hampshire) Tyler Brelsford (Bryant) Chase Parr (Towson) Javier Langarica (TBA) Ace Stallings (TBA) La Salle - 2 in from P6, 1 out to P6, 4 out to non P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Mamadou Doucouré (Rutgers) Josh Nickelberry (Louisville) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): David Beatty (NC A&T) Ayinde Hikim (UMass Lowell) Jaren Kimbrough (Hartford) Scott Spencer (Tulane) Brandon Stone (Robert Morris) Rhode Island - 1 in from non P6, 1 out to P6, 2 out to non P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Ishmael El-Amin (Ball State) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Fatts Russell (Maryland) DeVale Johnson (Kent State) Jermaine Harris (New Mexico State) Richmond - no incoming transfers, 1 out to non-P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): N/A Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Andre Weir (FGCU) St. Bonaventure - 2 in from P6, 9 out to non-P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Quadry Adams (Wake Forest) Abdoul Karim Coulibaly (Pitt) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Anthony Roberts (Stony Brook) Justin Winston (Robert Morris) Quintin Metcalf (Pratt Community College) Alejandro Vásquez (Hofstra) Eddie Creal (TBA) Jalen Shaw (TBA) Jermaine Taggart (TBA) Alpha Okoli (TBA) Josh Bell (TBA) Saint Joseph’s - 1 in from P6, 1 in from non-P6, 2 out to non-P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Ejike Obinna (Vanderbilt) Chris Coleman (ECU) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Myles Douglas (Morgan State) Ethan Griffith (TBA) Saint Louis - 1 in from P6, 2 in from non-P6, 2 out to non P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Jordan Nesbitt (Memphis) Rashad Williams (Oakland) DeAndre Jones (Central Arkansas) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Philip Russell (Southeast Missouri State) Demarius Jacobs (Ball State) UMass - 2 in from P6, 3 in from non-P6, 1 out to non P6, 2 out to P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Trent Buttrick (Penn State) CJ Kelly (Albany) Michael Steadman (Montana) Rich Kelly (Boston College) Greg Jones (Southern Connecticut State) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Carl Pierre (Rice) Ronnie DeGray III (Missouri) Tre Mitchell (Texas) VCU - 2 in from P6, 2 out to non-P6 Incoming (former school in parenthesis): Jimmy Nichols (Providence) Marcus Tsohonis (Washington) Outgoing (new school in parenthesis): Jimmy ‘Tre’ Clark III (Northwest Florida State College) Brendan Medley-Bacon (McNeese State) I added some notes to this because I was interested in whether the A10 has become a farm league for P6 conferences due to transfer rules from this year. A couple caveats/explanations: - In the interest of time and objectivity, I didn't differentiate between good/bad teams. Only conferences. Boston College still counted as P6, for example, even though their bball program isn't great. - Anyone listed as "TBA" I counted as going to non-P6. - I didn't differentiate between high major, low major, etc. Too ambiguous. - Green = in from P6, red= out to P6. Blue= in from non-P6, yellow = out to non-P6. Purple = D2. - I almost certainly made some mistakes doing this. - I realize this might change for future years. This is only from this year, obviously. Edited August 16, 2021 by rgbilliken Fixed a couple errors RUBillsFan, 3star_recruit, HoosierPal and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, rgbilliken said: I added some notes to this because I was interested in whether the A10 has become a farm league for P6 conferences due to transfer rules from this year. A couple caveats/explanations: - In the interest of time and objectivity, I didn't differentiate between good/bad teams. Only conferences. Boston College still counted as P6, for example, even though their bball program isn't great. - Anyone listed as "TBA" I counted as going to non-P6. - I didn't differentiate between high major, low major, etc. Too ambiguous. - Green = in from P6, red= out to P6. Blue= in from non-P6, yellow = out to non-P6. Purple = D2. - I almost certainly made some mistakes doing this. - I realize this might change for future years. This is only from this year, obviously. Dayton's Lukas Frazier move to Ohio is a non-P6 transfer, not a P6 transfer. La Salle's David Beatty's move to NC A&T is a non-P6 transfer, not a P6 transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, rgbilliken said: I added some notes to this because I was interested in whether the A10 has become a farm league for P6 conferences due to transfer rules from this year. A couple caveats/explanations: - In the interest of time and objectivity, I didn't differentiate between good/bad teams. Only conferences. Boston College still counted as P6, for example, even though their bball program isn't great. - Anyone listed as "TBA" I counted as going to non-P6. - I didn't differentiate between high major, low major, etc. Too ambiguous. - Green = in from P6, red= out to P6. Blue= in from non-P6, yellow = out to non-P6. Purple = D2. - I almost certainly made some mistakes doing this. - I realize this might change for future years. This is only from this year, obviously. If Memphis counts as "Power 6," then isn't it really 7? Pac-12, Big 12, SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Big East, American? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgbilliken Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, 3star_recruit said: Dayton's Lukas Frazier move to Ohio is a non-P6 transfer, not a P6 transfer. La Salle's David Beatty's move to NC A&T is a non-P6 transfer, not a P6 transfer. 1 hour ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: If Memphis counts as "Power 6," then isn't it really 7? Pac-12, Big 12, SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Big East, American? Yeah like I said I almost certainly made some mistakes. Honestly I'm surprised people didn't catch more. Lol Fixed original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, rgbilliken said: Yeah like I said I almost certainly made some mistakes. Honestly I'm surprised people didn't catch more. Lol Great effort. As posted elsewhere, Bonnie's Creal is moving to the mighty Lindenwood Bears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGB91 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Great effort. As posted elsewhere, Bonnie's Creal is moving to the mighty Lindenwood Bears! The are the Lindenwood Lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, rgbilliken said: Yeah like I said I almost certainly made some mistakes. Honestly I'm surprised people didn't catch more. Lol Fixed original post. So what's your criteria for determining whether we are a farm league for the P6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: So what's your criteria for determining whether we a farm league for the P6? By my count the A-10 only really lost 6 guys to larger schools (Chatman, Weathers, Battle, Fatts, Degray, Mitchell). Guys from Fordham and Mason don't really count given coaching change. Grady couldn't have returned so he doesn't really count as well. Weathers, Chatman and Fatts were also all seniors last season so you could make the case that they don't really count either since their circumstances are unique to this year. The A-10 has a long history of bringing in successful transfers, both up-transfers and down-transfers. I expect this to continue as long as schools in our conference bring in good coaches and invest in basketball budgets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, NH said: Grady couldn't have returned Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, BilliesBy40 said: Why not? Davidson is a liberal arts school. They don't have any graduate courses for Grady to take. His teammate Bates Jones had to move on for the same reason. SLU_Lax likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgbilliken Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: So what's your criteria for determining whether we a farm league for the P6? Ha...I was hoping to just present the data and leave it up to everyone else to get into a debate about what it means. But since you asked, here goes: If we were a farm league, I would expect to see a net of more transfers moving "up" to the P6 vs. lateral or downward moves. I don't see that in this data set. It's just one piece of information though. It doesn't take into account the % of guys who have P6 interest who moved up. Like, if every single dude good enough to play for KU or wherever moves on, that would be an indicator that we're something of a farm league. Example- an actual farm league: AAA baseball- every single guy who is good enough will obviously go to the majors if given a chance. In that case it doesn't matter the numbers going each way if one league is obviously the goal and the other is a stepping stone to get there. Based on those criteria I would say no, not a farm league for the following reasons: 1. There's not an obvious exodus of top guys from A10 to P6. 2. There's not an obvious preference toward moving to P6. There are definitely guys sticking around who would easily be able to move, e.g., Perkins and others. I would also say A10 is making out pretty well on both ends; 20 dudes transferring in from P6 and 20 from non-P6. I'm surprised it's so balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Davidson is a liberal arts school. They don't have any graduate courses for Grady to take. His teammate Bates Jones had to move on for the same reason. Interesting. I did not know that about Davidson. I could be wrong, but I believe Grady or Jones could have stayed at Davidson by pursuing another major if they wanted to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, BilliesBy40 said: Interesting. I did not know that about Davidson. I could be wrong, but I believe Grady or Jones could have stayed at Davidson by pursuing another major if they wanted to do so. My understanding is that Davidson cannot accept grad transfers, and for that same reason none of their players were able to return for a 5th season. Even if technically allowed by the NCAA, that still could just be team/school policy. All of the Ivy League schools are the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, BilliesBy40 said: Interesting. I did not know that about Davidson. I could be wrong, but I believe Grady or Jones could have stayed at Davidson by pursuing another major if they wanted to do so. Sure, but they're high GPA kids who'd rather start their grad degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 hours ago, 3star_recruit said: Davidson is a liberal arts school. They don't have any graduate courses for Grady to take. His teammate Bates Jones had to move on for the same reason. How did I not know this? This has put them at a huge disadvantage with the advent of the grad transfer rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Makes McKillop's hunting for overseas talent all the more understandable. AGB91 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Not a transfer but interesting. No need to start a new thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, HoosierPal said: Not a transfer but interesting. No need to start a new thread Fordham just landed Abdou Tsimbila from Penn State, so there's a transfer. Didn't play much at Penn State but it's clear Fordham is making moves under Kyle Neptune. Riley is supposedly a player. Tsimbila is depth with Big Ten experience, if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy II Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 13 hours ago, Pistol said: Fordham just landed Abdou Tsimbila from Penn State, so there's a transfer. Didn't play much at Penn State but it's clear Fordham is making moves under Kyle Neptune. Riley is supposedly a player. Tsimbila is depth with Big Ten experience, if nothing else. -keep it going, Fordham, become great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, Cowboy II said: -keep it going, Fordham, become great Or even just decent..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 6'8" .... playe din 16 games .... 4.6 mpg ..... 1.1 ppg. Was a freshman from Cameroon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Some Fordham mascot history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Could be a wild card for the Dukes. At 6'7", he will help fill a void in the frontcourt. For the star gazers, ESPN rated him a 4* out of HS. On Verbal Commits, he is listed at 3.3*. In his freshman season in Chattanooga, Easley averaged 14.2 points per game as well as 6.7 rebounds per game, earning Southern Conference Freshman of the Year honors. He shot 44.4% from the field and 39.7 from three-point land. Sat a year then at TCU he played in 26 games, starting 13. Easley averaged 4.5 points and 3.7 rebounds on the year, and had three games with more than ten points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Should pave the way for Williams to get his waiver. Isn’t his situation similar, ie two former schools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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