Reinert310 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 40 minutes ago, WVBilliken said: No reason for Russell to get a scholarship ..... Unless he is the best point guard available. Which I seriously doubt. Like I said, I don’t think it’s guaranteed he gets one. It really depends on how everything plays out. I don’t think anyone can really anticipate how crazy this offseason is gonna be. It’s gonna be wild. I’m excited about it. I criticize Coach Ford a lot, but 1 thing that 100% trust him with is recruiting. I have no doubt that no matter what happens, we’ll end up in the + column. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Littlebill said: Keeping Vashon happy is important imo Why? None of their top players have chosen SLU for decades. AGB91, SLU_Lax, billiken_roy and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Reinert310 said: Like I said, I don’t think it’s guaranteed he gets one. It really depends on how everything plays out. I don’t think anyone can really anticipate how crazy this offseason is gonna be. It’s gonna be wild. I’m excited about it. I criticize Coach Ford a lot, but 1 thing that 100% trust him with is recruiting. I have no doubt that no matter what happens, we’ll end up in the + column. With the caveat of limited minutes, I saw nothing from Russell to make me believe he can be a contributor at the top tier of the A10. billiken_roy and cgeldmacher like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, WVBilliken said: Why? None of their top players have chosen SLU for decades. So just say eff em? That’s certainly an interesting strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, Littlebill said: So just say eff em? That’s certainly an interesting strategy. I do not care how many athletes in the area snub SLU keeping good relationships with all area schools is important. I agree with you about Vashon one of these days Ford will get one of those players and maybe Fletcher the will the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, Littlebill said: So just say eff em? That’s certainly an interesting strategy. No that is not what I saying. But, you do not give a scholarship to an ex-Vashon player just to keep the Vashon coaching staff and players happy. The player receiving it must project as a key contributor, a "player". If Russell has the potential to succeed Yuri as lead point guard in Ford and his staff's opinion, then give him a scholarship. I would be very surprised if the Staff sees him that way. If not, then do everything possible to keep him as a walk on. Or help him find a school where he might fit, like was likely done for Diarra. I'm just a fan, what do I know? But pretty sure SLU recruits players they think can become starters or key rotation players. There are only 13 scholarships and so two true point guards is likely the absolute maximum number on the squad. Seems to me, there is no room for roster charity. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, WVBilliken said: No that is not what I saying. But, you do not give a scholarship to an ex-Vashon player just to keep the Vashon coaching staff and players happy. The player receiving it must project as a key contributor, a "player". If Russell has the potential to succeed Yuri as lead point guard in Ford and his staff's opinion, then give him a scholarship. I would be very surprised if the Staff sees him that way. If not, then do everything possible to keep him as a walk on. Or help him find a school where he might fit, like was likely done for Diarra. I'm just a fan, what do I know? But pretty sure SLU recruits players they think can become starters or key rotation players. There are only 13 scholarships and so two true point guards is likely the absolute maximum number on the squad. Seems to me, there is no room for roster charity. I know there was an injury to Yuri, but Ford played Russell more than Strickland the second half of the season. Do you think Strickland deserves to stay? Make some sense of where Russell is at in the program? Frankly, I would take Russell over Lorentson. I don’t see the big Swede getting PT next year, maybe never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, AnkielBreakers said: I know there was an injury to Yuri, but Ford played Russell more than Strickland the second half of the season. Do you think Strickland deserves to stay? Make some sense of where Russell is at in the program? Frankly, I would take Russell over Lorentson. I don’t see the big Swede getting PT next year, maybe never. Strickland does not play point guard. Simple ...... Ford needed a ball handling, play making guard at the time, not a small forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Littlebill said: Keeping Vashon happy is important imo Whether Russell remains at SLU or not won't affect SLU's relationship with Vashon. Ford really really likes Philip. Philip was told he wouldn't get many minutes this year. If Ford however decides to upgrade and go a different direction at point guard it won't affect future recruiting down at Vashon. cgeldmacher, CBFan and BuiltFordBills like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I’m sure Russell came to SLU with some understanding of what it would take to earn a scholarship. Based on how much he played this year and how Ford speaks about him, I would be shocked if he were not on scholarship next year. The thing is, I don’t think we don’t really need extra scholarship spots. The days of having 13 guys who all expect to get playing time some day are likely over. With the transfer rules kids will be more likely to leave if they’re not playing rather than wait till they’re an upperclassmen. Everyone on our current roster seems outwardly happy, but it would still be very surprising if nobody transferred. Reinert310 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Russell has shown me little that deserves a scholarship. Yeah, I know, he was 14th man on the roster but I still don't see it. I see Aaron Hines II. If there is all this talent coming free on the transfer market, Russell will be bypassed there as well. Billikenbooster and cheeseman like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 It’s official Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinert310 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zink said: It’s official Beat me to it. I think everyone could see this coming. Come on home, Cam. Schasz and Zink like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Reinert310 said: Beat me to it. I think everyone could see this coming. Come on home, Cam. Would he have four years of eligibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 No surprise here. I would guess Coach Poach to be heavily involved. Although, I guess this is not a poaching situation. Any thoughts on how much we need him if he is at all interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I’d be surprised if he came here, He would get very little PT next year and I don’t think he’d want to sit out another year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, slu72 said: No surprise here. I would guess Coach Poach to be heavily involved. Although, I guess this is not a poaching situation. Any thoughts on how much we need him if he is at all interested? He’d be a great complement to Perkins right away, they could be a dynamic duo at the 3/4. Fletcher’s biggest problem last year seemed to be defending without fouling (59 minute sample size, >6 fouls/40). He’d probably at least help soften the blow of losing Goodwin’s rebounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Just now, wgstl said: I’d be surprised if he came here, He would get very little PT next year and I don’t think he’d want to sit out another year You really think he wouldn’t compete for PT? He was a top 60 player in high school and is an elite athlete. Perkins is the only 100% guaranteed starter next year (Yuri at like 99%), you have to think he’d be able to compete for minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCoBillsFan Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, wgstl said: I’d be surprised if he came here, He would get very little PT next year and I don’t think he’d want to sit out another year He would start for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCoBillsFan Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Zink said: It’s official Ford and Russell need to be on the phone ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zink said: You really think he wouldn’t compete for PT? He was a top 60 player in high school and is an elite athlete. Perkins is the only 100% guaranteed starter next year (Yuri at like 99%), you have to think he’d be able to compete for minutes. If we do sign him, then I'd expect we'll have some players entering the portal. No names, but just a hunch. It's just the way it is these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Zink said: You really think he wouldn’t compete for PT? He was a top 60 player in high school and is an elite athlete. Perkins is the only 100% guaranteed starter next year (Yuri at like 99%), you have to think he’d be able to compete for minutes. Hargrove is also an elite athlete who shot the 3 very well this year. Along with GJ, and perkins thats a lot of talent to just assume a guy who never played for 9 win team to just jump in and take their minutes. Also yes he was a top 60 player, doesnt mean he'll play like it. Im not saying I dont want him, in case anyone gets that confused. I just dont think he'll want to go to a program with several players at that spot. Zink likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, slu72 said: If we do sign him, then I'd expect we'll have some players entering the portal. No names, but just a hunch. It's just the way it is these days. One name would really stand out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, NoCoBillsFan said: He would start for us Are you saying this because he was a former 70th ranked recruit? Because we dont have any college tape to go off of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 On 3/11/2021 at 3:58 PM, Littlebill said: Keeping Vashon happy is important imo This is important post at the moment. Zink likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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