Record Tracking 2020-2021

[HoosierPal]

Just an add on for Pistol's excellent list.  JP Smooth is 12th on the scoring list for 2 year players. 

[almaman]

Thanks for the updates. saddest effect for us fans of all these cancelled games are the records. Pistol or anyone I'd love to see roster for 2021-22 season with correct year. Maybe the school's website is accurate but it seems off to me.

[HoosierPal]

15 hours ago, almaman said:

Thanks for the updates. saddest effect for us fans of all these cancelled games are the records. Pistol or anyone I'd love to see roster for 2021-22 season with correct year. Maybe the school's website is accurate but it seems off to me.

Not sure what you are looking for regarding the 2021-2020 season.  Brian Kunderman is the gatekeeper for the record books and he updates the records once or twice per year.  Brian does respond to emails so you might try that avenue.

For those who track these records ( @Pistoland me?) we know about the inequities.  I wouldn't call it a sad effect, but just reality.  We are already comparing players with 3 years of eligibility-when freshmen were ineligible, such as Joe Wiley, with players having 4 years.   If we have players staying and playing five years then those comparisons become even more tilted.  It could be all but impossible for someone to break a record in 4 years that was established over 5 years.  Time will tell.  So for me there are already asterisk's in the records and more are coming. 

[cheeseman]

16 hours ago, almaman said:

Thanks for the updates. saddest effect for us fans of all these cancelled games are the records. Pistol or anyone I'd love to see roster for 2021-22 season with correct year. Maybe the school's website is accurate but it seems off to me.

I was thinking about this the other night during the game - at the time JG was listed as having 898 rebounds and it occurred to me that not for S2 he would easily pass the 1000 mark and you can say the same for the COVID pause - a double whammy.

[thetorch]

Goodwin will miss what amounts to more than half a season for his career.  His total numbers with those games would not just shatter many Billikens records but there would be few in college basketball history with his all around numbers from the guard position.

[RUBillsFan]

So what kind of career and single season records could Perkins reach next year?

Do we think Hughes single season scoring record of 670 is in play?  Perk would need to average close to 20 ppg over 34 games.  Would need a very special individual & team season, but could happen w a long A10 tournament run & NCAA games.  Bonner’s 654 senior class record would be slightly more attainable.

Depending upon how we finish this season, Harry Rogers 1493 point record for a 3 year player might be reachable.  Perk is sitting on 753 now so we’d need to make a run in the A10 tournament to make this more realistic.

He could probably also climb into top 10 on the single season and career 3 pt lists.

I’m perhaps overly excited about Perkins coming back.

[Pistol]

It depends on how the rest of the roster shakes out. If we end up with a splashy, immediately-eligible transfer or two, probably not. If he's the clear number one option, then maybe we see him start to make his mark.

I'll do a full update on this season's numbers tomorrow.

[almaman]

32 minutes ago, Pistol said:

It depends on how the rest of the roster shakes out. If we end up with a splashy, immediately-eligible transfer or two, probably not. If he's the clear number one option, then maybe we see him start to make his mark.

I'll do a full update on this season's numbers tomorrow.

Cool look forward to it 

[Pistol]

Update through 18 games, the full regular season, below. We have anywhere from 1 to 9 games left. The bottom line is that if we played a full season, a lot more top 10 lists would see some changes. As it stands:

Jordan Goodwin has 261 points this season and 1,417 total points, having just passed Easy Ed Macauley (1,402) for 12th place all-time. Since the last update, he also passed Luther Burden (1,349), Marque Perry (1,358), and Joe Wiley (1,368). He needs 76 points to reach 1,493 (Harry Rogers) to make the top 10, and 31 points to take 11th place from Dick Boushka. His scoring average of 14.5 won't be a factor in the senior class (Lewis McKinney is 10th at 19.1) and we didn't play a long enough season for him to chase the 553 points needed to tie Roland Gray for 10th. His current average of 10.3 rebounds would tie him with Eugene Moore in 7th place among seniors, and barring a Final Four run, he won't make the top 10 in total rebounds, needing 246 to tie Rich Naes (he has 174). He has 971 career rebounds, which is 4th all-time, and he and French (956) are not likely to reach Jim McLaughlin's third place total of 1,128. He has 68 assists this season and will not get to 120 to tie Darryl Lenard for 10th for seniors. He is in the all-time top 10 for assists, now with 391, which is 6th. He has 32 steals so far this season and needs to reach 49 to join Chris Sloan, Justin Love, and Darryl Lenard in 10th for seniors. He owns the all-time steals record, now with 214. He is currently third in career MPG (34.2), right behind Tommie Liddell (34.4). He has 3,796 total minutes played, which is 7th all time, and he needs to get to 3,939 to catch Kwamain Mitchell for 6th.

Hasahn French has 1,149 career points, currently 25th all-time. He recently passed Virgel Cobbin (1,107), Jack Mimlitz (1,118), and Bob Ferry (1,128), and Davell Roby (1,160) is next. He is the program's all-time blocked shots leader, with 222. With 77 blocks last season, he broke Willie Reed's all-class season mark of 73. French now has the 1st, 4th, and 6th (tie) place marks in the all-class top 10. He has 20 so far this season and needs 27 to make the senior class top 10 and 68 to break Kelvin Henderson's class record. He has 114 rebounds (7.1 per game), needing 246 rebounds this season to tie Naes for 10th and an average of 9.3 RPG to tie Jerry Koch in rebounding average, and he is unlikely to catch either. With 956 total rebounds, French is now 5th all-time on the career list, having just passed Dwayne Evans (942). Goodwin is just ahead of him (971) but adding to his total, and neither are likely to reach Jim McLaughlin (1,128) for third. His field goal percentage of .545 would be just outside tenth place, held by Kenny Brown (.552). He has 3,415 total minutes and needs 3,616 to tie Dwayne Evans for tenth place (Erwin Claggett and his 3,538 have dropped from the top ten due to Goodwin passing him).

Javonte Perkins has 304 points through 18 games and needs to reach 553 to tie Roland Gray for 10th among seniors (567 gets him on the all-class list, tied in 10th with Bob Ferry). His 16.9 average would be outside the senior top 10 and the all-class top 10 (Bonner averaged 19.8 in 1989-1990). He is tied with Jim Irving at 11th on the career scoring average list, with 15.7 PPG. His 32-point performance vs. LSU was the 76th time in program history someone scored 30 or more in a game; he now has two of them. His .464 field goal percentage would be a bit short of the top 10 for seniors. He has 36 three-pointers and needs 56 to tie Roby and Gray in 10th on the senior class list. His .419 three-point percentage would be just short of tenth overall in a season and tied with Claggett for sixth among seniors. His .868 percentage from the free throw line would be fourth for seniors and sixth overall in a season.

Joshua Hightower won't compete for any senior records.

Marten Linssen has a field goal percentage of .673, which would be a season record for any class, but right now he has 55 FGA and needs 100. His free throw percentage of .774 would be outside the junior top 10. 

Demarius Jacobs would finish outside the junior top ten in three-point percentage (needing .384, currently .344) and also needs 50 attempts (he has 32). His FT percentage of .781 is currently short of 10th for juniors (H Waldman, .805).

Brandon Courtney won't compete for any junior records.

Fred Thatch is .833 from the FT line, which would be second all-time for sophomores if he can get to 50 attempts (he has 30).

Yuri Collins needs to reach 102 assists to tie Monroe Douglass in 10th for sophomores and currently has 97. He's averaging 6.1 per game and could still take the all-time sophomore record (142) from LaTodd Johnson despite the shortened season if SLU goes on a run. He has 21 steals and needs 39 to tie Jett for 10th among sophomores.

Terrence Hargrove is .423 from three, which would finish third place among sophomores if he can get to 50 attempts (has 26).

Jimmy Bell is .542 from the field, which would be fourth among sophomores. He has 24 FGA, though, and needs 100.

Gibson Jimerson is grouped with the freshmen despite already being second in freshman three-point field goal percentage at .429, which is also god for eighth on the all-class list. His scoring average of 8.6 would be shy of the freshman class list. His three-point percentage of .386 would be 7th among freshmen.

Markhi Strickland is currently not in play for any freshman class records.

Andre Lorentsson is currently not in play for any freshman class records.

Phillip Russell is currently not in play for any freshman class records.

[HoosierPal]

42 minutes ago, Pistol said:

Update through 18 games, the full regular season, below. We have anywhere from 1 to 9 games left. The bottom line is that if we played a full season, a lot more top 10 lists would see some changes. As it stands:

Jordan Goodwin has 261 points this season and 1,417 total points, having just passed Easy Ed Macauley (1,402) for 12th place all-time. Since the last update, he also passed Luther Burden (1,349), Marque Perry (1,358), and Joe Wiley (1,368). He needs 76 points to reach 1,493 (Harry Rogers) to make the top 10, and 31 points to take 11th place from Dick Boushka. His scoring average of 14.5 won't be a factor in the senior class (Lewis McKinney is 10th at 19.1) and we didn't play a long enough season for him to chase the 553 points needed to tie Roland Gray for 10th. His current average of 10.3 rebounds would tie him with Eugene Moore in 7th place among seniors, and barring a Final Four run, he won't make the top 10 in total rebounds, needing 246 to tie Rich Naes (he has 174). He has 971 career rebounds, which is 4th all-time, and he and French (956) are not likely to reach Jim McLaughlin's third place total of 1,128. He has 68 assists this season and will not get to 120 to tie Darryl Lenard for 10th for seniors. He is in the all-time top 10 for assists, now with 391, which is 6th. He has 32 steals so far this season and needs to reach 49 to join Chris Sloan, Justin Love, and Darryl Lenard in 10th for seniors. He owns the all-time steals record, now with 214. He is currently third in career MPG (34.2), right behind Tommie Liddell (34.4). He has 3,796 total minutes played, which is 7th all time, and he needs to get to 3,939 to catch Kwamain Mitchell for 6th.

Hasahn French has 1,149 career points, currently 25th all-time. He recently passed Virgel Cobbin (1,107), Jack Mimlitz (1,118), and Bob Ferry (1,128), and Davell Roby (1,160) is next. He is the program's all-time blocked shots leader, with 222. With 77 blocks last season, he broke Willie Reed's all-class season mark of 73. French now has the 1st, 4th, and 6th (tie) place marks in the all-class top 10. He has 20 so far this season and needs 27 to make the senior class top 10 and 68 to break Kelvin Henderson's class record. He has 114 rebounds (7.1 per game), needing 246 rebounds this season to tie Naes for 10th and an average of 9.3 RPG to tie Jerry Koch in rebounding average, and he is unlikely to catch either. With 956 total rebounds, French is now 5th all-time on the career list, having just passed Dwayne Evans (942). Goodwin is just ahead of him (971) but adding to his total, and neither are likely to reach Jim McLaughlin (1,128) for third. His field goal percentage of .545 would be just outside tenth place, held by Kenny Brown (.552). He has 3,415 total minutes and needs 3,616 to tie Dwayne Evans for tenth place (Erwin Claggett and his 3,538 have dropped from the top ten due to Goodwin passing him).  Tied for 15th in Career FG%.

Javonte Perkins has 304 points through 18 games and needs to reach 553 to tie Roland Gray for 10th among seniors (567 gets him on the all-class list, tied in 10th with Bob Ferry). His 16.9 average would be outside the senior top 10 and the all-class top 10 (Bonner averaged 19.8 in 1989-1990). He is tied with Jim Irving at 11th on the career scoring average list, with 15.7 PPG. His 32-point performance vs. LSU was the 76th time in program history someone scored 30 or more in a game; he now has two of them. His .464 field goal percentage would be a bit short of the top 10 for seniors. He has 36 three-pointers and needs 56 to tie Roby and Gray in 10th on the senior class list. His .419 three-point percentage would be just short of tenth overall in a season and tied with Claggett for sixth among seniors. His .868 percentage from the free throw line would be fourth for seniors and sixth overall in a season.  Currently 15th in Career 3 pt% and 7th in 2 year point totals.

Joshua Hightower won't compete for any senior records.

Marten Linssen has a field goal percentage of .673, which would be a season record for any class, but right now he has 55 FGA and needs 100. His free throw percentage of .774 would be outside the junior top 10. 

Demarius Jacobs would finish outside the junior top ten in three-point percentage (needing .384, currently .344) and also needs 50 attempts (he has 32). His FT percentage of .781 is currently short of 10th for juniors (H Waldman, .805).

Brandon Courtney won't compete for any junior records.

Fred Thatch is .833 from the FT line, which would be second all-time for sophomores if he can get to 50 attempts (he has 30).

Yuri Collins needs to reach 102 assists to tie Monroe Douglass in 10th for sophomores and currently has 97. He's averaging 6.1 per game and could still take the all-time sophomore record (142) from LaTodd Johnson despite the shortened season if SLU goes on a run. He has 21 steals and needs 39 to tie Jett for 10th among sophomores.

Terrence Hargrove is .423 from three, which would finish third place among sophomores if he can get to 50 attempts (has 26).

Jimmy Bell is .542 from the field, which would be fourth among sophomores. He has 24 FGA, though, and needs 100.

Gibson Jimerson is grouped with the freshmen despite already being second in freshman three-point field goal percentage at .429, which is also god for eighth on the all-class list. His scoring average of 8.6 would be shy of the freshman class list. His three-point percentage of .386 would be 7th among freshmen. Currently 6th Career 3 pt %. 

Markhi Strickland is currently not in play for any freshman class records.

Andre Lorentsson is currently not in play for any freshman class records.

Phillip Russell is currently not in play for any freshman class records.

Just some add on's in red to Pistol's excellent recap.

[brianstl]

I just noticed that while he is listed a few times in the History & Record Book, that Lou Lehman is not listed in the alumni section that shows a players statistics each year they played.  Lehman was an honorable mention All-American and played on the 1948 NIT Championship team.

[Pistol]

59 minutes ago, brianstl said:

I just noticed that while he is listed a few times in the History & Record Book, that Lou Lehman is not listed in the alumni section that shows a players statistics each year they played.  Lehman was an honorable mention All-American and played on the 1948 NIT Championship team.

I would email Brian Kunderman if you find stuff like this. I've brought stuff to his attention before and he's been great about it. Those record books have had a lot of stewards over the years and stuff gets missed.

[Pistol]

Update through the full 21-game season, unfortunately shortened for multiple reasons. I've compiled this under the assumption that Goodwin and French will not return but that everyone else will.

Jordan Goodwin finished his career with 1,460 points, which is 11th all-time. He just passed Dick Boushka (1,448). His career scoring average of 12.8 isn't enough to make the top 20, nor were any of his season scoring marks. He finished with 998 career rebounds, good for fourth all-time. It's disappointing he couldn't come up with two more or just get one more game to reach the 1,000 mark; he would've been the third member of the 1,000-1,000 club with Anthony Bonner and Jim McLaughlin. His senior season average of 10.1 rebounds is eighth on the senior class list, but the shortened season kept him off the total rebounds list for a season. The shortened season also kept him off the senior lists for assists and steals, too. He finished with 404 career assists, which is fifth all time, having just passed LaTodd Johnson (400). His 225 steals are a program record. He finished third in career MPG (34.3), right behind Tommie Liddell (34.4). He ended up with 3,907 total minutes played, good for seventh all time despite having three of his four seasons cut off early. He started 113 games, tied with Virgel Cobbin and Kevin Lisch for tenth, and would've challenged Bonner's record of 130 had he played full schedules each year. He only played 114 games, short of the 128 needed to make the top ten list.

Hasahn French finished his career with 1,178 points, good for 21st in program history. He recently passed Davell Roby (1,160), Brian Conklin (1,161), and Jim McLaughlin (1,178). He is the program's all-time blocked shots leader, with 228. French has the first, fourth, and sixth (tie) place marks in the all-class top 10 for blocks. The shortened season kept him off the senior class list by 1 (had 26, needed 27). He finished his career averaging 8.4 rebounds per game, just short of the top ten. With 982 total rebounds, French finished fifth in SLU history, just behind Goodwin. He started 116 games, which is eighth all time.

Javonte Perkins finished a little outside the senior scoring records. He is tied with Bill Morris for tenth on the career scoring average list, with 15.9 PPG. His 32-point performance vs. LSU was the 76th time in program history someone scored 30 or more in a game; he now has two of them. His .866 percentage from the free throw line is fourth for seniors and sixth overall in a season.

Joshua Hightower didn't make any lists.

Marten Linssen finished with a field goal percentage of .646, which would be a season record for any class, but he fell short of the 100 minimum attempts. His free throw percentage of .800 finished just outside the junior top 10, and he was also 10 attempts short of the 50-FT minimum. 

Demarius Jacobs finished outside the junior percentage lists after falling off his early season averages and coming up short on attempts due to the short season.

Brandon Courtney didn't compete for any junior records.

Fred Thatch was .824 from the FT line, which would be third all-time for sophomores if he had gotten to 50 attempts.

Yuri Collins had 116 assists this season, good for fifth on the sophomore top ten list.

Terrence Hargrove finished .424 from three, which would have been third place among sophomores if he had reached 50 attempts.

Jimmy Bell was .538 from the field, which would be fourth among sophomores if he had gotten to 100 attempts.

Gibson Jimerson is grouped with the freshmen despite already being second in freshman three-point field goal percentage at .429, which is also good for eighth on the all-class list. This season, he finished at .394 from three, which is sixth for freshmen. He had 37 three-pointers this season, tied with Anthony Drejaj and Marcus Bartley for ninth among freshmen. He would've been second in FT percentage at .833 but was well short of the 50 minimum attempts.

Markhi Strickland did not qualify for any freshman class records.

Andre Lorentsson did not qualify for any freshman class records.

Phillip Russell did not qualify for any freshman class records.

[almaman]

Yep stats took a hit. they say u never 4get your first. 19 was my first covid & it sucks. fcnusoutof 2 seasons with unprecedented amount of talent. we were hottest team in the sport last year when they yanked the plug. We looked promising start of this year but then stuff out of control came @ us from all sides. the last day of the season team from last year would handle the same from this suckie year imo. y couldn't these 2 seasons be Crews's last 2

[HoosierPal]

On 3/29/2021 at 11:05 AM, Pistol said:

Update through the full 21-game season, unfortunately shortened for multiple reasons. I've compiled this under the assumption that Goodwin and French will not return but that everyone else will.

Jordan Goodwin finished his career with 1,460 points, which is 11th all-time. He just passed Dick Boushka (1,448). His career scoring average of 12.8 isn't enough to make the top 20, nor were any of his season scoring marks. He finished with 998 career rebounds, good for fourth all-time. It's disappointing he couldn't come up with two more or just get one more game to reach the 1,000 mark; he would've been the third member of the 1,000-1,000 club with Anthony Bonner and Jim McLaughlin. His senior season average of 10.1 rebounds is eighth on the senior class list, but the shortened season kept him off the total rebounds list for a season. The shortened season also kept him off the senior lists for assists and steals, too. He finished with 404 career assists, which is fifth all time, having just passed LaTodd Johnson (400). His 225 steals are a program record. He finished third in career MPG (34.3), right behind Tommie Liddell (34.4). He ended up with 3,907 total minutes played, good for seventh all time despite having three of his four seasons cut off early. He started 113 games, tied with Virgel Cobbin and Kevin Lisch for tenth, and would've challenged Bonner's record of 130 had he played full schedules each year. He only played 114 games, short of the 128 needed to make the top ten list. Goodwin finished 17th in Senior Rebounds.

Hasahn French finished his career with 1,178 points, good for 21st in program history. He recently passed Davell Roby (1,160), Brian Conklin (1,161), and Jim McLaughlin (1,178). He is the program's all-time blocked shots leader, with 228. French has the first, fourth, and sixth (tie) place marks in the all-class top 10 for blocks. The shortened season kept him off the senior class list by 1 (had 26, needed 27). He finished his career averaging 8.4 rebounds per game, just short of the top ten. With 982 total rebounds, French finished fifth in SLU history, just behind Goodwin. He started 116 games, which is eighth all time. Hasahn finished 16th in career FG%.

Javonte Perkins finished a little outside the senior scoring records. He is tied with Bill Morris for tenth on the career scoring average list, with 15.9 PPG. His 32-point performance vs. LSU was the 76th time in program history someone scored 30 or more in a game; he now has two of them. His .866 percentage from the free throw line is fourth for seniors and sixth overall in a season. 

Joshua Hightower didn't make any lists.

Marten Linssen finished with a field goal percentage of .646, which would be a season record for any class, but he fell short of the 100 minimum attempts. His free throw percentage of .800 finished just outside the junior top 10, and he was also 10 attempts short of the 50-FT minimum. 

Demarius Jacobs finished outside the junior percentage lists after falling off his early season averages and coming up short on attempts due to the short season.

Brandon Courtney didn't compete for any junior records.

Fred Thatch was .824 from the FT line, which would be third all-time for sophomores if he had gotten to 50 attempts.

Yuri Collins had 116 assists this season, good for fifth on the sophomore top ten list.

Terrence Hargrove finished .424 from three, which would have been third place among sophomores if he had reached 50 attempts.

Jimmy Bell was .538 from the field, which would be fourth among sophomores if he had gotten to 100 attempts.

Gibson Jimerson is grouped with the freshmen despite already being second in freshman three-point field goal percentage at .429, which is also good for eighth on the all-class list. This season, he finished at .394 from three, which is sixth for freshmen. He had 37 three-pointers this season, tied with Anthony Drejaj and Marcus Bartley for ninth among freshmen. He would've been second in FT percentage at .833 but was well short of the 50 minimum attempts. Gibson is currently 5th in Career 3%.

Markhi Strickland did not qualify for any freshman class records.

Andre Lorentsson did not qualify for any freshman class records.

Phillip Russell did not qualify for any freshman class records.

Great job Pistol.  a few other miscellaneous stats in red.