3star_recruit Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Compton said: I don't see Lorentsson or Russell getting a whole lot of time when clutch free throws matter. There's just a bit too much depth and seniority. Not saying they can't emerge next year or anytime thereafter as go tos. In 2021-2023, teams who foul us at the end of games will be fighting a losing battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, 3star_recruit said: 14 day quarantines for entire programs just isn't practical. Quarantining the positive person(s) and a week of testing for everybody else, sure. But if a 14 day pause for everybody remains the norm, most teams will not finish their nonconference schedule by January. Some teams won't even finish by Valentine's Day. 1 hour ago, MichaelC said: Yeah, a 14 day in season quarantine won't work, I think teams are just being overly cautious now in order to get the season started as smoothly as possible. I believe, right now, the 14 days is from the NCAA as a guideline and the A10 has adopted it. I thought AD May said new NCAA guidelines were coming out on re-socialization, but I haven't seen any yet. You can't keep 10 to 15 basketball players separated by 6 feet when you are scrimmaging. If one player gets it, you have to assume the worst. But yes, there should be some negative test procedure. I'm not totally familiar with it, but in the NFL can't you come back with three negative tests after a close-contact? We do need one set of rules for all college basketball programs. But can some of the low-mid conferences fund a robust testing program? I hope Central Ark and UMKC are proficient in their testing protocols and don't bring the virus into Chaifetz. I hope the MVC has a testing program that parallels ours and E'ville and IN St abide by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelC Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: I believe, right now, the 14 days is from the NCAA as a guideline and the A10 has adopted it. I thought AD May said new NCAA guidelines were coming out on re-socialization, but I haven't seen any yet. You can't keep 10 to 15 basketball players separated by 6 feet when you are scrimmaging. If one player gets it, you have to assume the worst. But yes, there should be some negative test procedure. I'm not totally familiar with it, but in the NFL can't you come back with three negative tests after a close-contact? Funny you mentioned the NFL, I just read that they're instituting a more "intensive" policy following a spate of positive tests (https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/sports/nfl-imposing-intensive-covid-19-protocol-all-teams) including a provision that all personnel entering an NFL facility must have a negative test result from the day before. To your point, I don't know how you can get through a basketball season without a mechanism that allows players to "test back in" so to speak after a positive test (you're going to have some false positives) or close contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 12 hours ago, SLUMedBilliken15 said: UMKC game reported on 12/23 Source? I haven't seen anything yet. By the way, I checked their site in case they had a non-conference schedule up and it's really interesting what the Summit is doing this season: https://kcroos.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule Every matchup is played back-to-back nights at one location, so no home-and-homes. Half of your opponents you play twice at home, half of them twice on the road. (I had forgotten they moved to the Summit from the bizarre WAC. Also, they've rebranded as Kansas City, trying to lose the UMKC thing for their sports teams, at least.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, Pistol said: Source? I haven't seen anything yet. By the way, I checked their site in case they had a non-conference schedule up and it's really interesting what the Summit is doing this season: https://kcroos.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule Every matchup is played back-to-back nights at one location, so no home-and-homes. Half of your opponents you play twice at home, half of them twice on the road. (I had forgotten they moved to the Summit from the bizarre WAC. Also, they've rebranded as Kansas City, trying to lose the UMKC thing for their sports teams, at least.) would suck for us if we were to play @ richmond or @ dayton twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, wgstl said: would suck for us if we were to play @ richmond or @ dayton twice. -would it suck for Rich or SVU to play at our place twice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Crabtree out for the first three games certainly doesn't help the Spiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -would it suck for Rich or SVU to play at our place twice? ya but why would I care about them, frick em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUMedBilliken15 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Pistol said: Source? I haven't seen anything yet. By the way, I checked their site in case they had a non-conference schedule up and it's really interesting what the Summit is doing this season: https://kcroos.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule Every matchup is played back-to-back nights at one location, so no home-and-homes. Half of your opponents you play twice at home, half of them twice on the road. (I had forgotten they moved to the Summit from the bizarre WAC. Also, they've rebranded as Kansas City, trying to lose the UMKC thing for their sports teams, at least.) It's not a great source but: https://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Saint+Louis&year=2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 13 hours ago, HoosierPal said: I believe, right now, the 14 days is from the NCAA as a guideline and the A10 has adopted it. I thought AD May said new NCAA guidelines were coming out on re-socialization, but I haven't seen any yet. You can't keep 10 to 15 basketball players separated by 6 feet when you are scrimmaging. If one player gets it, you have to assume the worst. But yes, there should be some negative test procedure. I'm not totally familiar with it, but in the NFL can't you come back with three negative tests after a close-contact? We do need one set of rules for all college basketball programs. But can some of the low-mid conferences fund a robust testing program? I hope Central Ark and UMKC are proficient in their testing protocols and don't bring the virus into Chaifetz. I hope the MVC has a testing program that parallels ours and E'ville and IN St abide by it. Somehow the Big 10 and Pac 12 have less stringent guidelines than the NCAA. Moving to something more akin to what the are using or what the NFL is doing (you can test out of it) would be more favorable to keeping teams available for the majority of the season. Your concern about lower conference teams not being able to afford to test out is legit but that doesn't mean that larger schools that can afford that options shouldn't be given that choice. Allowing schools to test out makes sense and if a school chooses not to do so because of financial reasons than so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLIKNS Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 A-Sun is also doing the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLIKNS Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 As the Summit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, SLUMedBilliken15 said: It's not a great source but: https://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Saint+Louis&year=2021 Stu mentioned the KC game in his article, but not the date. Interesting that this site has that game and is missing several others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Add pine bluff to the schedule. Yuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGB91 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Just now, wgstl said: Add pine bluff to the schedule. Yuck I would rather have SEMO bus up for a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I’m fine with this only because we get to keep the game against LSU. Should be a lot of fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 With no additional changes looks like our full non con schedule is: November 25th - SIUE November 28th - LSU December 5th - Ark Pine Bluff December 8th - Central Arkansas December 12th - Evansville December 15th - Indiana State December 20th - at Minnesota December 23rd - UMKC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: With no additional changes looks like our full non con schedule is: November 25th - SIUE November 28th - LSU December 5th - Ark Pine Bluff December 8th - Central Arkansas December 12th - Evansville December 15th - Indiana State December 20th - at Minnesota December 23rd - UMKC I'll give u 5 to 1 there will be changes. almaman likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelC Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, willie said: I'll give u 5 to 1 there will be changes. I hope so, but at this point the Minnesota game has to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Very little room for error with this schedule. Have to win all the “easy” games and split the LSU/Minn games at worst. Probably can’t lose twice MichaelC and billiken_roy like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 17 hours ago, 3star_recruit said: 14 day quarantines for entire programs just isn't practical. Quarantining the positive person(s) and a week of testing for everybody else, sure. But if a 14 day pause for everybody remains the norm, most teams will not finish their nonconference schedule by January. Some teams won't even finish by Valentine's Day. Seems to me that this is not the same standard that is being used for college football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 53 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: Seems to me that this is not the same standard that is being used for college football. Pitt just announced that football players in the Pitt v Virginia Tech game tomorrow will be required to wear masks while playing on the field due to the Governor's mandate. Rules differ by state, by league, and change daily. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/pitt-vs-virginia-tech-will-be-first-game-with-players-required-to-wear-face-coverings-in-the-field-of-play/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Missouri States' non-con is absolute trash. Western Illinois' seems to be almost non-existent. I wonder if we could sneak in another cupcake after Dec. 23rd. Billiken Rich likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Compton said: Missouri States' non-con is absolute trash. Western Illinois' seems to be almost non-existent. I wonder if we could sneak in another cupcake after Dec. 23rd. Sweet Art has delicious cupcakes. You are a grown man, if you want a cupcake, get a cupcake. slufanskip likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmart23 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Compton said: Missouri States' non-con is absolute trash. Western Illinois' seems to be almost non-existent. I wonder if we could sneak in another cupcake after Dec. 23rd. I’d rather just win every game we have now. I don’t think another cupcake actually helps much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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