SLU_Lax Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 There is general gamesmanship in all the numbers. Does stadium cost go to the team or athletic department or another part of the school? What about cost of Chris May’s salary? When a school booster travels with the team on their jet, is that an overall school expense or basketball team expense, etc, etc,, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowry Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Don’t know what he’s paid. But it could be as simple as money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 9 hours ago, SLU_Lax said: There is general gamesmanship in all the numbers. Does stadium cost go to the team or athletic department or another part of the school? What about cost of Chris May’s salary? When a school booster travels with the team on their jet, is that an overall school expense or basketball team expense, etc, etc,, etc. I would think that a booster invited to fly with the team paid for it in some way or another through donations at various times - significant donations SLU_Lax likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 12 hours ago, 3star_recruit said: About $7.5 million. https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/slu-athletics-department-cuts-possible-but-not-definite/article_02c93253-9566-5aca-a6cc-5aac4e8e0849.amp.html Thank you for posting the link. I hope Pestello is smart enough to increase the basketball budget. Coach Ford has this team at the point the fans have been dreaming about. Had it not been for Covid I believe the team revenue would have been up. Protect the investment Freddy P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 4 hours ago, cheeseman said: I would think that a booster invited to fly with the team paid for it in some way or another through donations at various times - significant donations It is paid for many times over. It’s just a question if the expense is a basketball expense or general university expense. The numbers are a good indication of what is spent, I just wanted to note the numbers have some flexibility in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SLU_Lax said: It is paid for many times over. It’s just a question if the expense is a basketball expense or general university expense. The numbers are a good indication of what is spent, I just wanted to note the numbers have some flexibility in them. I found the figure of nearly $5 million of our $7.5 million as being salary to be rather high. Or higher than I expected in that I assume Coach Ford is making around $2 million or so? Even $3 million? Who makes the other $2 million? And yes,figures can fluctuate from year to year and some programs will include expenses which others do not but we are spending nearly double that of the highest spending program from the Valley which is closer to Duquesne than us. Davidson had their nice run in the tourney as did George Mason and recently Loyola, we waited 50 years for the Blues to win the Stanley Cup and may have to wait awhile longer for our Billikens but I would rather compare ourselves to Marquette and the $11.8 million they are spending. https://marquettewire.org/3992372/tv/increased-mens-basketball-spending-a-product-of-travel-lease-agreements/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Clock_Tower said: I found the figure of nearly $5 million of our $7.5 million as being salary to be rather high. Or higher than I expected in that I assume Coach Ford is making around $2 million or so? Even $3 million? Who makes the other $2 million? And yes,figures can fluctuate from year to year and some programs will include expenses which others do not but we are spending nearly double that of the highest spending program from the Valley which is closer to Duquesne than us. Davidson had their nice run in the tourney as did George Mason and recently Loyola, we waited 50 years for the Blues to win the Stanley Cup and may have to wait awhile longer for our Billikens but I would rather compare ourselves to Marquette and the $11.8 million they are spending. https://marquettewire.org/3992372/tv/increased-mens-basketball-spending-a-product-of-travel-lease-agreements/ Illinois's basketball budget is less than $11 million and they are a top team in the top conference in America. Marquette's return on investment is horrible. https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/mens-basketball/article205147959.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Illinois's basketball budget is less than $11 million and they are a top team in the top conference in America. Marquette's return on investment is horrible. https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/mens-basketball/article205147959.html Exactly. spending money does not equal success. At the same time success is a lot tougher if you are not in the ballpark and are being grossly outspent by your peers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Clock_Tower said: I found the figure of nearly $5 million of our $7.5 million as being salary to be rather high. Or higher than I expected in that I assume Coach Ford is making around $2 million or so? Even $3 million? Who makes the other $2 million? And yes,figures can fluctuate from year to year and some programs will include expenses which others do not but we are spending nearly double that of the highest spending program from the Valley which is closer to Duquesne than us. Davidson had their nice run in the tourney as did George Mason and recently Loyola, we waited 50 years for the Blues to win the Stanley Cup and may have to wait awhile longer for our Billikens but I would rather compare ourselves to Marquette and the $11.8 million they are spending. https://marquettewire.org/3992372/tv/increased-mens-basketball-spending-a-product-of-travel-lease-agreements/ With regards to Marquette, the lease agreement with the new Fiserv Forum ($520 Million facility) is more costly than the previous building listed in the article, the Bradley Center. (Revenue is also higher) They considered a new $120 Million Campus Arena instead, and had a naming sponsor, but decided against the project. Their initial lease at Fiserv Forum is 7 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Illinois's basketball budget is 10.4 million and they are a top team in the top conference in America. Marquette's return on investment is horrible. 2018 Marquette's Men and Women's Basketball Revenue was just under $27 Million. (Total Athletics was $42 Million). Illinois had $21 Million Operating Revenue. (2019) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Clock_Tower said: I found the figure of nearly $5 million of our $7.5 million as being salary to be rather high. Or higher than I expected in that I assume Coach Ford is making around $2 million or so? Even $3 million? Who makes the other $2 million? And yes,figures can fluctuate from year to year and some programs will include expenses which others do not but we are spending nearly double that of the highest spending program from the Valley which is closer to Duquesne than us. Davidson had their nice run in the tourney as did George Mason and recently Loyola, we waited 50 years for the Blues to win the Stanley Cup and may have to wait awhile longer for our Billikens but I would rather compare ourselves to Marquette and the $11.8 million they are spending. https://marquettewire.org/3992372/tv/increased-mens-basketball-spending-a-product-of-travel-lease-agreements/ My guess is that Tate is the second highest paid person in the athletic department. I think his first contract was in excess of $200,000 a year and he has only increased his salary since. Plus, he has added the associate head coach title. I would assume that Stone is probably in the same pay range as Tate. Stuen and Giacoletti are probably above $100,000 each. Then you have Wilson and Nunez, too. The men’s basketball program eats much of the $5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 20 minutes ago, brianstl said: My guess is that Tate is the second highest paid person in the athletic department. I think his first contract was in excess of $200,000 a year and he has only increased his salary since. Plus, he has added the associate head coach title. I would assume that Stone is probably in the same pay range as Tate. Stuen and Giacoletti are probably above $100,000 each. Then you have Wilson and Nunez, too. The men’s basketball program eats much of the $5 million. Yep. I think you’re right. Compared to football with the indoor and outdoor facilities, this shear numbers of players, coaches, trainers, medical staff, the equipment, the travel, the liability... if you get a nice gym and keep it updated and pay your head coach and assistants, you can be competitive every year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Indiana State makes it official, Greg Lansing's contract will not be renewed. I believe the ISU Athletic Department read on this board that Ford has sold his house and they will be making an overture for him to move to Terre Haute. Compton likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 -I saw a bit of many games on Saturday, one Vitale was doing and he said something about Richard Pitino being out at Minnesota, searching a Twin Cities paper has a headline that there are "plenty of candidates for Gophers job with Richard Pitino on the way out" - so it hasn't happened yet but seems to be an opening there on the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Indiana State makes it official, Greg Lansing's contract will not be renewed. I believe the ISU Athletic Department read on this board that Ford has sold his house and they will be making an overture for him to move to Terre Haute. they can get Crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 On 3/6/2021 at 2:57 PM, courtside said: 2018 Marquette's Men and Women's Basketball Revenue was just under $27 Million. (Total Athletics was $42 Million). Illinois had $21 Million Operating Revenue. (2019) Boy that sounds high for their total revenue. They don't have FB, yet their other sports bring in $15mm? Do they have a team participating in the WWF we don't know about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 4 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Indiana State makes it official, Greg Lansing's contract will not be renewed. I believe the ISU Athletic Department read on this board that Ford has sold his house and they will be making an overture for him to move to Terre Haute. JettFlight5 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, HoosierPal said: -I guess they think their position has the dollars/great job/swag to overcome what a poor firing process will mean to an incoming coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Lincoln Memorial is DII. Way to step up, Sycamores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Lincoln Memorial is DII. Way to step up, Sycamores. His resume at Lincoln is pretty remarkable, but I agree hiring from lower ranks isn’t typically a recipe for success. https://lmurailsplitters.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/josh-schertz/1420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 It didn't exactly pan out for Mizzou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Didn't work for conference mate Evansville either. This is obviously a cost cutting move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brianstl Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Since 2010 the Billikens have been to the same number of NCAA tournaments as the Hoosiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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