brianstl Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, courtside said: Ridership is down 90% since earlier in March. The 10%? Essential workers, and the poor. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/health/coronavirus-america-future.html#click=https://t.co/QSqstQpIFP https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2020/04/14/a-conundrum-for-new-yorkers-social-distancing-in-the-subway/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 In addition, MTA subway and bus drivers have a higher death rate from COVID-19 than any other frontline workers in NYC. That includes hospital medical personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, brianstl said: The problem is the subway is a proven incubator for outbreaks while the same science suggest next to zero outbreaks have been the result of outdoor transmission. If we are really going to follow the science on the subway system should be shut down immediately and no beaches are nature trails should be closed. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.04.20053058v1 That’s fine, but subways and trails are not comparable things. If you want to shut down the NYC subway you need to figure out a way for thousands of medical workers and other crucial personnel to get to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, NH said: That’s fine, but subways and trails are not comparable things. If you want to shut down the NYC subway you need to figure out a way for thousands of medical workers and other crucial personnel to get to work. You find housing for them at any of the many empty hotels all over NYC close to every workplace. This isn’t rocket science. And you are right they are not comparable things. The subway is a proven public health risk in this crisis and the nature trails are not a public health risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, brianstl said: You find housing for them at any of the many empty hotels all over NYC close to every workplace. This isn’t rocket science. And you are right they are not comparable things. The subway is a proven public health risk in this crisis and the nature trails are not a public health risk. Cmon man. You know that’s not the only reason they’re not comparable. Coordinating all the local hotels is a much more difficult task than you’re making it sound. But regardless, I have no clue what they should and should not shut down. You probably know more and have a better idea. But it’s silly to act like there’s no reason to have the subways open, or that public transport is the same cost/benefit analysis as parks/trails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, NH said: Cmon man. You know that’s not the only reason they’re not comparable. Coordinating all the local hotels is a much more difficult task than you’re making it sound. But regardless, I have no clue what they should and should not shut down. You probably know more and have a better idea. But it’s silly to act like there’s no reason to have the subways open, or that public transport is the same cost/benefit analysis as parks/trails. It is not that difficult and in fact is being done in Chicago. Hotels are empty and looking for any way to generate some revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 9 hours ago, courtside said: One of the great tricks in life is enabling and condoning racists and racism while cheering on SLU minority student athletes for self entertainment purposes. Racists and Xenophobes gonna racist and xenophobe. https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1252424785440587781 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 8 hours ago, SShoe said: particularly graduates of Saint Louis University, should be smarter than that. From armchair epidemiology, to completely fractured notions of what capitalism and socialism are, to every single thing said about today’s oil price news being wrong....there is a lot in this thread that one would hope a SLU graduate would be smarter than. TaLBErt, drkelsey55 and Billiken Rich like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 10 hours ago, brianstl said: It is not that difficult and in fact is being done in Chicago. Hotels are empty and looking for any way to generate some revenue. Good on St Louis for having the foresight to build a completely useless light rail system that is easy to shut down without affecting anyone! SLU_Nick, bleedtheblue, brianstl and 1 other like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 About that Hydroxychloroquine... https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 6 hours ago, JMM28 said: Good on St Louis for having the foresight to build a completely useless light rail system that is easy to shut down without affecting anyone! Low income, hourly workers don't prefer to take the 1.5 hour one way bus rides to work instead (66% to 34% bus usage) but the system isn't comprehensive enough for many, among other things. Many of course do both bus and train on the same commute, whatever it takes. 30% of those among the proposed North/South line don't have access to a vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Seems a little premature to be saying this, but it also wouldn't surprise me: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, moytoy12 said: Seems a little premature to be saying this, but it also wouldn't surprise me: For those wondering, basketball is a winter sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 And then again there's this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: For those wondering, basketball is a winter sport. it's winter somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: Seems a little premature to be saying this, but it also wouldn't surprise me: Seems way early for him to say anything like that. He's probably wishing for the season to be cancelled given how bad UConn football is... SShoe and Billiken Rich like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, kshoe said: Seems way early for him to say anything like that. He's probably wishing for the season to be cancelled given how bad UConn football is... Can't lose a game if you don't play. JohnnyJumpUp likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: Can't lose a game if you don't play. If the schools are open, they'll play. By then there will be enough tests that you could reasonably test each team once a week and everyone would feel comfortable playing. The risks of being around the team wouldn't be any more material than the risks normal students face in going to class, living in dorms, etc. Of course, if school is closed then its a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/coronavirus/protesters-gather-at-the-missouri-capitol-downtown-clayton-to-demand-state-reopen/article_a9da78ea-07f2-58b7-a33b-4815fd63558c.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Given what we've all been thru, and still going thru, with this horrible virus, it got me to thinking about the important things in life. Family, friendships, simpler things. But it also got me to thinking about Billiken hoops, which I do everyday. My thoughts on the topic subject are; will local kids who had their hearts set on playing for more notable programs think differently now in light of how important it is to be close to family during times of crisis. Now hopefully, someday sooner than later, this thing is going to go the way of other viruses, but I do think it's memory will linger for some time. It may well cause young people to think twice about how terrible it would be to be separated from family and loved ones during a family crisis. I guess the kid from Oregon and Strickland got me to wondering whether or not they took this time to evaluate that it would be better if I played my ball a lot closer to home. Also, might parents now insist their little ones stay closer to the nest rather than move across the country just to play basketball, which is something they could do if they stayed in St Louis or Columbia. Now it may not matter at all, but I do think, because of the severity of this period, it may well come into play when kids are making their decisions on where to continue their careers. Of course, it will also impact the recruiting of foreign players as well. We are a global society after all, and this disease shows no respect for borders. Foreigners may well think twice about being not allowed to travel home and suffer pro longed absences from their families in unfamiliar surroundings. I think it will have some impact. I'm not saying in any way this is a good development. I'd prefer seeing life return to normal than have it be abnormal means of improving our chances of recruiting local talent. The point is it could be a factor that changes the face of college sports recruiting and transfers not only in St. Louis but around the nation and the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 This virus is making time crawl. November seems years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorB Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 OK, I will be the first to say it: (at least I would guess I'm the first; I have not read through the scores of pages on here): But will there even be a season in the fall? Everyday we hear about another school committing to online fall schedules only. And phase 2 will probably be MUCH worse than this one: https://thewayofimprovement.com/2020/04/21/cdc-the-second-wave-of-the-coronavirus-could-be-deadlier/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, DoctorB said: OK, I will be the first to say it: (at least I would guess I'm the first; I have not read through the scores of pages on here): But will there even be a season in the fall? Everyday we hear about another school committing to online fall schedules only. And phase 2 will probably be MUCH worse than this one: https://thewayofimprovement.com/2020/04/21/cdc-the-second-wave-of-the-coronavirus-could-be-deadlier/ I too have my doubts about the upcoming fall and winter seasons. Even the schools reopening in September. I read today where UConn is thinking of cancelling, or has cancelled, their fall sports. If we do indeed get a second wave, and the general consensus is it's not a matter of if but when, and it's worse than the first wave, ie more than 45,000 deaths already, what effect is that going to have on the general population? The economy is already starting to crumble, a second wave could bring down the house. Too much uncertainty for sure is the new reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 This is fun another thread about Coronavirus and the NCAA. Dr. Holly Hills, JohnnyJumpUp and AGB91 like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: This is fun another thread about Coronavirus and the NCAA. Agreed. SLU72 had an interesting theory that local kids are more likely to stay home given the virus and that should be the topic on here. Granted, nothing ever stays completely on topic, but starting another just general coronoavirus thread really is kind of silly. To SLU72's initial theory... I would agree that the potential elimination of the summer evaluation period could lead to more local guys staying home as the local schools are more likely to have the good scouts on them. As for kids choosing to stay home because they want to be close to family, I'd say we should look at the transfer portal and market and try to figure out how many of those kids are leaving their current school to be closer to home (rather than the more normal approach of transferring to find a different fit). I don't know the answer to that question, but it should be representative of whether players want to be closer to home because of the virus. p.s. I suspect there will be some kids that are so sick of being at home after this is all said and done that they'll want to get as far away from their house as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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