Littlebill Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Littlebill said: Bottom, but its very close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Bottom team - Plus I'd rather be that team with 2 Q1 games and 2 Q2 games remaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 One of these teams is considered in the tournament, and the other is off the bubble - how is that even possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 -that's really close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Littlebill said: One of these teams is considered in the tournament, and the other is off the bubble - how is that even possible? Without knowing who these teams are, im going to say one has spent a decent amount of time in the tournament recently or has a big name behind it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Team sheets aren't the only criteria the committee uses. Below is from the NCAA website. Selection Criteria The NCAA Evaluation Tool, known as the NET, is in its first year of existence and is one of many factors used by NCAA sports committees when evaluating team selection, seeding and bracketing. The components of the NET include the Team Value Index, which is based on game results and factors game location, the opponent and outcome, as well as net efficiency, winning percentage, adjusted winning percentage and a capped scoring margin. Other criteria the committee considers in the selections process: An extensive season-long evaluation of teams through watching games, conference monitoring calls and regional advisory committee rankings. Complete box scores and results. Head-to-head results and results versus common opponents. Imbalanced conference schedules and results. Overall and nonconference strength of schedule. The quality of wins and losses. Road record. Player and coach availability. Various computer metrics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 NET, kenpom, etc would be helpful to see. I understand why they're blocked out but they're relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, HoosierPal said: Team sheets aren't the only criteria the committee uses. Below is from the NCAA website. Selection Criteria The NCAA Evaluation Tool, known as the NET, is in its first year of existence and is one of many factors used by NCAA sports committees when evaluating team selection, seeding and bracketing. The components of the NET include the Team Value Index, which is based on game results and factors game location, the opponent and outcome, as well as net efficiency, winning percentage, adjusted winning percentage and a capped scoring margin. Other criteria the committee considers in the selections process: An extensive season-long evaluation of teams through watching games, conference monitoring calls and regional advisory committee rankings. Complete box scores and results. Head-to-head results and results versus common opponents. Imbalanced conference schedules and results. Overall and nonconference strength of schedule. The quality of wins and losses. Road record. Player and coach availability. Various computer metrics. All I see are a bunch of cover our asses statements that allow them to take an undeserving Cal team over a deserving Murray State team. (Teams mentioned are just an example) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Littlebill said: SLU is the team that is out, VCU is the team that is in. Just thought it was a great example of the conundrum - why are we not in the conversation anymore? This VCU team is 30 spots higher in the NET. 4 of our 7 losses are to teams in the NET Top 16, and have no losses outside top 90. Only one of VCU's losses are to a top 30 team, and they just lost to the #156 team at home. That Q3 L is going to turn into a Q4 before it is all said and done. Surely there's more to the NET than us not blowing out GW, UMass, and LaSalle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelC Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Littlebill said: SLU is the team that is out, VCU is the team that is in. Just thought it was a great example of the conundrum - why are we not in the conversation anymore? This VCU team is 30 spots higher in the NET. 4 of our 7 losses are to teams in the NET Top 16, and have no losses outside top 90. Only one of VCU's losses are to a top 30 team, and they just lost to the #156 team at home. That Q3 L is going to turn into a Q4 before it is all said and done. Surely there's more to the NET than us not blowing out GW, UMass, and LaSalle. The projections I've seen today have VCU, SLU and a dozen or so other teams in the same spot, outside looking in. I think at this point both teams need the same things, a strong finish to the regular season, a decent tournament showing and few or no conference tournament upsets in leagues like the AAC and Mountain West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I think we agreed a week ago that 7-2 in our last 9 got us there. So...we can’t lose anymore. Easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 3:17 PM, Littlebill said: One of these teams is considered in the tournament, and the other is off the bubble - how is that even possible? Really frustrating. Shows how much it could have meant to win one or two of the Duquesne and/or Davidson games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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