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38 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said:

The NCAA Tournament Selection Committee doesn't "slot" conferences.  They don't say, "Such-and-such conference can have only X number of teams in the field."

If four A-10 teams are deserving of bids, with respect to all of the other teams, then that's how many will get in.

At least, that's what they always claim.

-I believe it is just a claim

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1 hour ago, Cowboy said:

-I believe it is just a claim

No, it's true. We got 5 teams around 2012. Different conference. At large teams are all competing against one another for bids and seeds. That's the reality. Power conference teams get lots more opportunities, and non-P5 teams are punished for weak schedules when almost no P5 teams will schedule a Home & Home with a team like us. 

Doesn't change reality though. Every conference complains about not getting enough respect, how tough their league is, and how the NCAA hosed them. Fact is A-10 had a good OOC, but also muffled a lot of opportunities. 

URI playing so well that the committee will forgive the loss to Brown. Their other OOC losses looking better and better. 

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On 2/1/2020 at 2:04 AM, BillsBeliever!!! said:

17spots left

ALMOST IN: USC
TIER ONE:  Wisconsin, Texas Tech

TIER TWO: Michigan, St Mary’s, Indiana

TIER THREE: Arkansas, BYU, Memphis, NC State, Florida, Virginia, Rhody, VCU , Minnesota, Stanford

TIER FOUR: N. Iowa, Oklahoma, Alabama,  VTech, Purdue, Yale, and St Louis

TIER FIVE: Tulsa, Miss St, Cincy, Xavier, Texas, DePaul, ETSU, and Richmond

ALMOST OUT: Arizona State and Washington (play each other Saturday, loser has no chance)

Tiers one to three (17 teams) are in the tournament, Tiers four and five are trying to get in with those in four slightly closer.

Bills are back end Tier four, low end tier five

Xavier is up to 47 in the NET with that win over Seton Hall. Cincinnati is at 46 after beating Houston.

Arizona State and Washington are both in the 50s; I think the loser of that game still has a better shot than ETSU (54).

SLU is holding at 68. Gotta beat Duquesne (88).

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2 minutes ago, Pistol said:

Xavier is up to 47 in the NET with that win over Seton Hall. Cincinnati is at 46 after beating Houston.

Arizona State and Washington are both in the 50s; I think the loser of that game still has a better shot than ETSU (54).

SLU is holding at 68. Gotta beat Duquesne (88).

Yes they do Pistol home court must be protected to have any chance.

Away games have been tough no matter who SLU plays so they have to make a stand at home.

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I’m gonna bring this thread back.

AZ State lost to Washington, Stanford lost to Oregon State, and Wichita State lost to Memphis tonight.  All 3 of those are bubble teams who most bracketologists have / had IN the field.

Utah St won however to keep their NCAA hopes alive.

A Richmond win over Duq tomorrow could very will put them on the right side of the bubble in favor of one of those teams above going into the A10 tournament.  

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Perhaps we are finally getting some recognition: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28577356/ncaa-tournament-bubble-watch-updated-look-wildest-bubble-years

Saint Louis. Last seen recording consecutive road wins by double-digit margins at Rhode Island and George Mason, the Billikens have zero Tulsa-type NET issues. Clocking in with a 50-something ranking for the metric in question, Travis Ford's team is actually above such Bubble Watch mainstays as NC State, South Carolina and Memphis (to say nothing of Furman, Stephen F. Austin and the aforementioned Bruins).

No, SLU's absence from mock brackets may stem instead from an insufficiency in big wins (at Richmond and URI) relative to losses (eight of them, including two in Quad 3). It's a close case, however, and, obviously, if that overtime period at home against Dayton had ended in victory, we're having a different conversation.

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9 hours ago, RUBillsFan said:

I’m gonna bring this thread back.

AZ State lost to Washington, Stanford lost to Oregon State, and Wichita State lost to Memphis tonight.  All 3 of those are bubble teams who most bracketologists have / had IN the field.

Utah St won however to keep their NCAA hopes alive.

A Richmond win over Duq tomorrow could very will put them on the right side of the bubble in favor of one of those teams above going into the A10 tournament.  

The better Richmond is the better our resume looks.  Richmond at this point is our best win.  

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13 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said:

 

 

38 - AZ State (should drop after losing to Washington last night, but probably not below SLU yet) - hosts Washington State on Saturday.  Need a Washington State win.

40 - Stanford (should drop after losing at Oregon State last night, but again probably not below SLU yet) -  at #13 Oregon on Saturday.  Need an Oregon blowout, but won't move much.

 

Nice work on this post.  

ASU is one spot ahead of SLU in NET.  Stanford fell a whopping 2 spots to 27. 

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2 minutes ago, bauman said:

RUBillsFan,  Great job.  Thanks for all the work.

It was a little depressing honestly.  It will be tough to pass most of the Power 5/6 conference teams because their losses would be against good opponents or the games are against other bubble teams.  The trio of SEC teams just ahead of us (S. Carolina, Arkansas, and Ole Miss) are easiest to pass if they lose because they play mediocre opponents.  Stanford losing to Oregon or Indiana losing to Wisconsin, however, won't likely move them much if at all.  We obviously need to beat Bona, but even a blowout there won't move the needle much for us, so upward movement will mostly have to come from a combo of us winning & other teams losing.

Obviously we'll still have more games with conference tournaments and potential movement after this weekend, but IMO we need some help with results this weekend to be in play for an at-large going into the conference tournaments.

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5 hours ago, RUBillsFan said:

Also probably need to root for Northern Iowa to win the MVC tournament.

Also need to root for all of SLU's past opponents to win as many remaining games as possible (except we'd probably rather Northern Iowa beat Valpo and/or SIU in the MVC tournament if UNI would be in line for an at-large otherwise).  We actually have some hopes for teams like Belmont (OVC), Eastern Washington (Big Sky), Bethune-Cookman (MEAC) to win their conference tournaments in addition to teams like Seton Hall & Auburn who are IN regardless, but also contenders in the Big East & SEC tournaments, respectively.

SIU was up 3 on Bradley at half time in the MVC Quarterfinal.  They would get Drake in the Semi's fresh off Drake's big win over UNI.  SIU won both of their games against Drake earlier this year in fairly convincing fashion.  17 point win at home on 1/19 and a 7 point win at Drake on 2/1.  Valpo plays Loyola Chicago tonight and Valpo actually won both of their games against Loyola this season as well.

The hope is that by the end of the conference tourneys SLU has wins over the MVC (SIU or Valpo), OVC (Belmont), Big Sky (EWU), and MEAC (Beth-Cook) champs and losses to the SEC (Auburn) and Big East (Seton Hall) champs.  That would be good for the at-large resume.

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Just add play in round to 16 games. 32 teams will play an extra game and if they win they are in the dance of 64. no 81rst ranked team is bitching. It's bubble people like us that have a gripe. More to watch, more $$ which may be of interest to the Lilly pure NCAA, less bitching, firings, and transferring.

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1 minute ago, almaman said:

Just add play in round to 16 games. 32 teams will play an extra game and if they win they are in the dance of 64. no 81rst ranked team is bitching. It's bubble people like us that have a gripe. More to watch, more $$ which may be of interest to the Lilly pure NCAA, less bitching, firings, and transferring.

Meh.

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2 hours ago, brianstl said:

The best scenario for the A10 would be a SLU Richmond tournament final.  It would probably mean 3 teams in the NCAA. Regardless of who wins that game.

We would have to have a win over Dayton in that scenario.

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33 minutes ago, JettFlight5 said:

We would have to have a win over Dayton in that scenario.

Or Richmond gets the win over Dayton and we beat them in the finals. I'm OK either way. 

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